There will re-open update 05/20/2011

Here’s the promised update.

Looking around, we think we can have the first phase of re-opening – ThereIM – done by the end of June. This is a GUESS at this point, but by then we think you will be able to:

1. Go through the sign-up process.
2. Pay the subscription fee.
3. Claim your old avatar name(s)
4. Log into ThereIm.
5. Request restoration of your inventory. It should arrive in a day or so.

Please note, Item #1 is PAY THE SUBSCRIPTION FEE (of course you can always cancel later, subject to some refund policy). We will be working on a way to gift subscriptions to other folks.

We’re still considering the ideas of “Alternate Avatars” or “Mules”. Don’t have the answer yet, but we know it needs to be addressed.

We have not considered unbanning anyone at this time.

You must be over 18 to play. We understand that many people under 18 will be disappointed, and may wish to claim their avatars later. That’s certainly something we will take into account.

Now, for some details about your belongings:

  • You will get them all back.
  • You will get your Therebucks back, minus any you cashed in in the Therebucks buyback. We bought them back, remember?
  • Some things, like Quest Kits, may lose their in-game state. It may just be too much of a PITA to get all that state back, which means you will have to lay them out again.
  • We are still working out PAZs, especially their placement. Here’s the issue: We can re-place the PAZ until it’s owner decides to re-appear in world, and re-claim their PAZ. Until then, the PAZ spot is “open”, which means someone else could claim jump them. We’re considering putting a moratorium on dropping PAZs, at least in those special places, until some amount of time has passed to allow the old owners to show up. Then, they’ll still have thier PAZ, but there’s no guarantee they will keep their place. That seems fair.
  • We’re still working out “when” servers which hold PAZs and Real Estate will be “up” as opposed to “sleeping”. Unlike the old There, where we kept literally hundreds of servers running for places with nobody in them (for much of the time), the new There is only going to run them if someone is paying for them. So, if hood rental, or PAZ rental covers keeping the Cloud server up 24X7, then we will. Otherwise, we’ll have to work out a way to bring it up “on demand”. By the way, remember the zone price increase in 2009? That was to raise the rent prices of zones so they would cover the costs of running the servers the zones were on – cover, NOT make a profit. Now it will cost much less to cover it, but we still need to cover it.
  • Dogs may forget who you are (as in, they may have forgotten how nice you were to them, and need to be retrained). Still working on that.
  • You will of course get your skills back, including the pathetic flailing around that some of you called “Paintball”. My 14-year old dog could paintball better than you!

I hope this has been helpful.

P.S. I hear the Raptors are coming today. I hope they’re Velociraptors, because we all know they can’t open doors.

  1. #1 by djmario on 2011.08.09 - 7:04 pm

    Michael I lead a boring life man. I am a pastry chef for God’s sake. I need THERE.COM. It inspires my dishes. If you invite me anytime soon, I’ll name a dish after you. Scouts honour. Wilson Vanilla Tower. Will even fuse it with some Liquid nitrogen for smoke effect.

  2. #2 by Radaaaaa on 2011.07.13 - 7:01 pm

    Soooo are you gonna unban avatars? :]

    • #3 by djmario on 2011.07.17 - 2:52 am

      If you were banned, then you are partially to blame for THERE closing up in the first place. Not only did THERE have problems with babysitting your ass free of charge, you also had to be an ass while in world, and get banned. So to answer your question, THERE WILL NOT LET BANNED ACCOUNTS BACK IN.

  3. #4 by djmario on 2011.07.13 - 7:25 am

    sick of waiting. Lets go alreadyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

    • #5 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.13 - 7:36 am

      (moves djmario to the end of the queue)

      • #6 by djmario on 2011.07.15 - 5:01 am

        NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. LOL. Well I guess I had it coming. I will just wait at the back of the line and chat up some girls till THERE opens the gates :p

  4. #7 by triplemiz on 2011.07.09 - 4:59 pm

    U have to pay to make a account

  5. #8 by Sabrina on 2011.06.30 - 4:19 am

    what about are IG things we got for being an Island Guid

  6. #9 by FriendOfThere on 2011.06.30 - 2:45 am

    Wow these posts are very detailed and it took a good few hours to read through them all but finally im at the bottom. All i can say is i hope it wont be as drama filled as it once was and that people go on There to make friends, meet old ones and spend t bux…Im on imvu most of the time and tbh there has never really been that much trouble and if there is it is dealt with quickly..I think you need to take a leaf out of their book and maybe add you own je n’sais quoi to it MW.
    I am sure it will be brilliant and I look forward to logging back into
    ( i eagerly watch the front page)


  7. #10 by markala balogun on 2011.06.25 - 7:15 am

    OK days before closed somebody hacked on my avater ik that because somehow they got my password, ik bc i was playing on too avater i log out my main won any was on my other won all of an sudden my main avater was moving and there clothes was changed and i tried to log on my main cause i hurried and change the password but it never worked

  8. #11 by Robert on 2011.06.24 - 12:28 am

    HEY MR. WILSON !!!

    • #12 by Mike on 2011.06.26 - 4:15 pm

      They have no choice.

  9. #13 by XXxtatiana20xXX on 2011.06.19 - 10:13 pm

    Hello everyone so happy that there is going to reopen today i just heared about it now … Michael please i wanna ask you something do i have to pay to log in ?? because i used to play as a nooby before since am from tunisia and in my country we can’t transfer money through cards to usa …but after a while i met good friends and they deciced to pay for me the premium membership .. now i wonder what should i do if it”ll be not free ?? i won a lot of things in i have many friends who i lost contact with them i played for a year :(( and i’ll be very sad if i’ll not be able to play it again if it’ll be necessarly to pay for it monthly for example ..plz answer me :(( or anyone answer me here am waiting thanks in advance !!

  10. #14 by HighFlier on 2011.06.19 - 10:14 am


    • #15 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.19 - 10:41 am

      153 comments. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I think you need to cut back a little. I’m used to people having more comments than posts on this blog, but having multiples is a teeny bit excessive, I think. 🙂

      • #16 by HighFlier on 2011.06.19 - 1:55 pm

        np, I gotcha and I’ll shurrp for ya. I actually have other things i should be doing and I was about to stop posting as much on my own actually but you know how addictive it can be. Thanks for reminding me. I follow you.

      • #17 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.19 - 4:22 pm

        Moderation in everything. 🙂

  11. #18 by jake on 2011.06.18 - 4:37 am

    i love there .com

  12. #19 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 5:45 pm

    test – is it just me or is this page going backwards? lol

    • #20 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 5:48 pm

      Very odd behavior with this page. Can it be fixed somehow? knock knock

      • #21 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 5:52 pm

        Leave it to Odile to muck it all up. It’s all her fault. At least now I can find the end by leaving all these posts about it.

  13. #22 by Loretta Sanchez on 2011.06.08 - 7:50 am

    I know I never get my question answer because my questions always seem so arelavent but as a formal avie whom was on for less then a year
    who can show us how to design and send to be possiable to sell reason I ask is I know nothing of computers but I` ve been doing art since I was young. would love to put the two together aspeacially in this world signed all alone in this ? ( texlittleone )

  14. #23 by Loretta Sanchez on 2011.06.08 - 7:13 am

    I simple way in promoting is ever yone to draw there avie or a part of there world go to aa shop have them computer ise it , then wear it and walk around with it in real life . its the best free advertise ment in life other then paying for it to put it on your shirt or you can just do what I do draw it on my pants and and shirt by my self with perme t clors works just as well hit me up on better know as texlittleone

  15. #24 by Paz_Worryed on 2011.06.07 - 5:36 am

    Mr. Wilson, Please take special thought and concern of what I am about to say. This concerns a multi-pazs location. That is critically extreme importance to a area by which your standards of the world is important.

    I cannot speak of the location or use my real avatar name! For risk of losing this location. You know who I am and the location of where these multi-pazs are located.

    Mr. Wilson, I am so worryed I am losing my mind concerning this. I spent years helping you and the World of There to maintain this spot.

    From my earlier posting, “There are way to many bad players, flat-out evil players who want these areas to do harm!!”

    So I really wish to speak to you privately about this matter! If I told you the location, you would agree with me how critically extreme importance this location is. An with that, you would see just how in fact I helped There so very much with my multi-pazs.

    You stated, “We’re considering putting a moratorium on dropping PAZs”.

    Are you going to do this? Can you guarantee me this location of this great importants to the World of There. Emphasizing guarantee!

    I know this all sounds crazy, but if you knew the location. You would really get a idea of why it is so important!

    So I ask you please, you and your team, upon reopening allow me to return to my old pazs locations.

    My multi-pazs location, is to stop evil players from doing harm in 3 ways. One: Is to stop control of the location. Two: Help your game system (LAG) and Three: Using this paz area to attack and grief players. The third, is 210% the reason, I need your help to retain my area!

    I cannot emphasize any more how important this is!

    Once again, if you can. Please contact me privately about this matter! I take it you can see the email in which we give. You can email me there.

    Looking forward to a great new future with There reopening!

    Best Regards, Paz_Worryed

  16. #25 by Xcal on 2011.06.06 - 10:56 am

    Hello Mr willson do we know when the forum might be back?

  17. #26 by xcal Urradio on 2011.06.06 - 10:44 am

    Hello Mr Wilson will the forums be available anytime soon?

  18. #27 by xcal Urradio on 2011.06.06 - 9:48 am

    Hello and good afternoon……. How about the forum Michael ? is this something that would take a lot of work also? Or Would this be something we can get soon?


    • #28 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.06 - 11:10 am

      I think I’ve answered that. If we run a forum, we have to moderate it. If we have to moderate it, then someone has to monitor it. That’s more $. There are so many other public forums out There, I’m sure people will find somewhere to talk about There. And they don’t have to worry about what they say! (unless, they do something which, infringes on our intellectual property rights, and we all know what happens then).

  19. #29 by Lyna on 2011.06.05 - 2:17 pm

    when will there re-open?

  20. #30 by Seg_Vio on 2011.06.05 - 12:51 pm

    One question that I always wanted to ask you MW…Is there any chance that we can some day purchase “super speed” for regular footwear? Not everyone wants to wear bunny slippers all the time.

  21. #31 by AMER_321 on 2011.06.04 - 9:30 pm

    Why do not you do re-open as early as this time ؟؟

    • #32 by Ant1977 on 2011.06.05 - 8:44 am

      huh? No matter how many times I read this, I can’t make any sense of what you are trying to say.

      • #33 by toufovou on 2011.06.05 - 11:20 am

        Amer is probably asking why they haven’t opened There already and why is it taking so long!!!

      • #34 by Seg_Vio on 2011.06.05 - 12:55 pm

        Think the person is trying to ask: Why is There not opening right now,instead of at a later date?

  22. #35 by Seg_Vio on 2011.06.04 - 12:20 pm

    Hey everyone!
    I’m glad to see so many names I recognize here! I will be rejoining the world when it opens. It is my plan to help make the world as sucessful (even more than before). I scanned through the comments here and have yet to see one thing covered by MW. Will Paz projections still be possible? I know it was frowned on before due to it ‘s most common application being griefing. Though some of us like myself and others like Skymage built huge arial communitys using this process. To be honest, building was what kept me busy the majority of the time 2nd only to paintball =D.

    • #36 by Seg_Vio on 2011.06.05 - 12:43 pm

      Nice to see my question was covered up with OLDER posts before it was approved…not too sure how that works…

  23. #37 by Spadez00 on 2011.06.02 - 10:05 pm

    I know I’m not the only one with multiple avatars with items spread amongst them all. When There2 comes up, I would obviously resort to only using one. Would you make there a way to retrieve items from old accounts, simply for a transfer, without having to pay an additional $10 per an account?

    I realize you’ve talked about mules a lot in your comments, but it seems like you’re talking about people using mules in the future. Perhaps I’m just misunderstanding your statements and if so then I’m sorry for wasting your time.

  24. #38 by Escape on 2011.06.01 - 1:31 pm

    If needed, I would gladly help with testing of ThereIm (or anything else)!

  25. #39 by David on 2011.06.01 - 9:09 am

    Hi, I was just wondering, if I request my inventory, will I need to take my name back? Because I don’t want to.

    • #40 by Ant1977 on 2011.06.01 - 11:25 am

      I don’t know why you keep asking the same question over and over. You will have to take your name back in order to get your old inventory back, otherwise you could just sign up as a new user and and select a new name. If you’d like your old inventory back and wish to have a new name, the only way to do that is to pay for 2 accounts for one month, and transfer all your inventory to your new name.

  26. #41 by Kendra (LilGrayFuzz) on 2011.05.31 - 11:07 pm

    Not sure if anyone else has suggested this or not, but it would be cool, and probably beneficial to the company if we could connect our There accounts to Facebook, as well as other social networking sites. Not only would it allow users to connect more personally with each other, it would “spread the word” so to speak, about There. I mean, it would be an optional thing, obviously, so it’s not like you would have to put all your personal stuff on your profile. Also, if you did that, I’m sure you’d probably incorporate more privacy settings anyways, to go along with it so only certain people/groups could see such information. But I know a lot of people make separate accounts on other websites specifically for their There avatars. I dunno how much effort goes into doing something like that, but I’m sure it would be worth it.

  27. #42 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 10:26 am

    Dedicated to ALL of us Thereians…. (99 Ballons) ’99 Thereians Passing By’

    • #43 by HighFlier on 2011.05.31 - 6:39 pm

      WOW!!! that made my day. BRAVO BRAVO….more more more. Ended a very hot day with a very cooool tune. Great arrangement Odile.
      Let’s get this Therian Revival Goin Folks! ”’yay. We got a whole month to pre celebrate so whose up next on I am so There stage? Bring it on!!

      Thanks Odile

      • #44 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 9:15 pm

        ‘yay ‘yay ‘handstand
        >>>>>>>>>> looks for THERE ..almost there!!!

      • #45 by HighFlier on 2011.06.01 - 10:03 am

        Odile’s request line…

        Odile, Could you sing “Born Free”? I love that song and your voice would be so perfect for it.

      • #46 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.06.01 - 7:29 pm

        HighFlier, if you are on FaceBook look me up…I would love to put that song out, but not here LOL This is MW’s blog and anything that has not to do with There..I will put on facebook…My FB is Odile Thereian LOL add me please…
        >>>>>>>>>>> steps aside as to not mess with MW’s blog 😉

  28. #47 by James White on 2011.05.31 - 6:35 am

    What if we had several accounts that developped several thigns and sold…

    will you link them all to one single account ?

    Example if i had an account Mr. X and had desigend 4 different tshirts and sold them

    and Mr Y Account had designed 2 buggies and 2 tshirts and sold them

    Now i will join there as a new Mr Z, so as to pay only ONE subscription and monthly fees of $ 10. will you transfer all these designs to the main one if i agree to give up on the X and Y to live with the Z only ?

    Tha’s my only question for now…

  29. #48 by AnOldDeveloper on 2011.05.31 - 5:57 am

    Virtual worlds are constantly changing, with new content being added daily.
    The steady, big name developers who make content do it on a full time basis. They keep There and other worlds fresh and exciting.
    Unless you are going to employ staff to create content, you are going to rely on developers to keep adding new content to There. Face it, PortaZones would not have taken off if developers had not made unique content to fill them.

    What happens when a developer who works full time at creating content cannot sell their T$? They’ll go to a place that does allow 3rd party currency sales like SL or IMVU. Those are the two biggest names in virtual chat environments right now. There hopefully will give them a run for their money when it reopens.

    What will you, MW, do to retain your developers? Will you be offering a buyback program on T$?

    I was one of those big name developers and I pumped in content for half a decade. I worked on new designs 12 hours a day, often 7 days a week. I was able to do this because I could sell T$.

    I’m at IMVU right now making content. I can honestly say that I pay all my bills with the money I make selling IMVU credits.

    I’d rather make There content. I prefer the There developer program immensely.

    What can be done to ensure that I’m not wasting my time creating content for There? Honestly, many of your top designers are going to need an incentive to come back to There and rebuild the world. Money is the greatest incentive of all.

    I pray that you’ll offer this incentive and see that it’s an investment to allow developers to sell their T$ in order to keep new content flowing into There.

    Thanks for reading this.

  30. #49 by SassyBeMe on 2011.05.31 - 12:10 am

    @jimony.. Were you referring to my post in some way? This blog got a little jiggy about mixing up the post I wasn’t sure. Because I was talking about auction resellers selling tbux to other members.. Not the act of reselling in auctions itself.

    Sorry If I confused any one.

    • #50 by jimony on 2011.05.31 - 12:17 pm

      Yes, Sassy, though I was sure I read another post besides yours about the same thing, so mine wasn’t directed at you.
      Your comment, “Its the auction resellers I would think be harder to deal with.” lead me to think you somehow thought resellers in auctions would no longer be allowed. But again, I was sure I had read another post somewhere before your comment with that misconception.

    • #51 by Esky on 2011.05.31 - 4:13 pm

      I misunderstood your post too Sassy, but I can see what you were saying now. I have seen a few posts here on MW’s blog and on facebook that appeared to read “resellers” as meaning or including auction resellers as opposed to just T$ resellers. I thought it would be useful to clarify and I was glad to get the official word “straight from the horses mouth”, so to speak… 😀

  31. #52 by daniel on 2011.05.30 - 8:07 pm

    hey MW its been about a month since you told me that i was posting to many comments and they would be removed but this is the only one for a while. i was just excyted at the time and i wanted to know all the new plans just like everyone else. so i just wanted to know what the deal with trial accounts was going to be. like a week trial with basic member privileges. because personally if i was new i would not spend $10 a month on something i have never used.

    • #53 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.30 - 8:46 pm

      There will be no trials until we have a reliable way to stop Trolls from using trials as ways to chain memberships.

      • #54 by daniel on 2011.05.31 - 11:21 am

        cant you just like only let them make a 3 day trial every 55 day useing like an ip restriction

    • #55 by toufovou on 2011.05.31 - 3:09 am

      Hey Daniel, are u the one that was with Secrets of Vonira and left them to join Vonira?

      • #56 by daniel on 2011.05.31 - 11:21 am

        and no

  32. #57 by Biggiedude420 on 2011.05.30 - 3:55 pm

    God i hate SL lol

  33. #58 by jimony on 2011.05.30 - 1:50 pm

    ¡ʎɹɹnɥ ǝsɐǝןd ˙uʍop ǝpısdn pǝuɹnʇ pןɹoʍ ʎɯ ʇoƃ sɐɥ uǝdo oʇ ǝɹǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ƃuıʇıɐʍ ‘ʍouʞ noʎ ǝʌɐɥ ןן,ı ‘ʍɯ

    • #59 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 9:11 pm

      ˙˙˙ǝq oʇ ʇno pǝuɹnʇ sɐɥ sıɥʇ ʇuǝɯǝʇıɔxǝ uɐ ʇɐɥʍ ¡uʍop ǝpısdn pǝuɹnʇ ʇǝƃ ooʇ ı˙˙˙ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇnoqɐ ǝɟıן ןɐǝɹ uı ƃuıɯɐǝɹp ʇɹɐʇs sdǝǝd ǝʍ uǝɥʍ˙˙˙ʎɐs oʇ ƃuıʎɹʇ ǝɹɐ noʎ ʇɐɥʍ puɐʇsɹǝpun ʎןןɐʇoʇ ı ɥo

      • #60 by jimony on 2011.06.02 - 1:11 am

        Mǝll’ I ɥɐʌǝ ɐlʍɐʎs qǝǝu ɐ qıʇ qɐɔʞʍɐɹps’ ʇɥonƃɥ˙ ∀up ʍɥǝu I,ɯ uoʇ qɐɔʞʍɐɹps’ I,ɯ ɾnsʇ ʇnɹuǝp ɐɹonup˙

  34. #61 by Starmate on 2011.05.30 - 12:47 pm

    June is so far 😉
    If you need I can deliver coffee and amphetamine to the staff so they can work by night time and speed up the re-opening!

    • #62 by jimony on 2011.05.30 - 5:26 pm

      Let me give you their address. How fast can you get here? Uhhh.. I mean there?

  35. #63 by Ray on 2011.05.30 - 11:55 am

    hey MW how about this idea we pay 100.00 up front and get 10 months then get 2 months free for the year 20 doller savings

  36. #64 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.30 - 11:21 am

    In regards with the sponsors locations, do you think it’s possible to remove all of the logos from the area, and still keep everything? For example the Scion. Do you think you could remove the Scion logos from the area and keep it, but renaming it something else as well as CC Metro and CosmoGirl?

  37. #65 by James White on 2011.05.30 - 5:21 am

    Awesome !

  38. #66 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.29 - 4:45 pm

    Mw once we login again who will we be talking to ta get our spots back, because the second There reopens I WILL BE THERE!! ready to get my spots back. and i`ll be paying for 2 or 3 avi`s. I think i need to buy some tbux to lol

    • #67 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.30 - 12:38 pm


      • #68 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.31 - 2:35 pm

        lol Griefers.

    • #69 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.31 - 2:50 pm

      The Griefers Only Word Is….Unbelievable!

  39. #70 by HighFlier on 2011.05.29 - 3:19 pm

    ‘Hmm wonder what this triangle thing is? Anyone recognize this object? Saja is a lot like Texas…everything is big.

    • #71 by toufovou on 2011.05.29 - 8:09 pm

      Yeah! What is that? It was visible from Zona Island too, but it was too high to get a good look at it. Sometimes it would give me the creeps. Something like Big Brothers eye watching over us! lol

      • #72 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 9:27 pm

        I believe that was a marker in the center of and at the top of pazs or lots.

      • #73 by HighFlier on 2011.05.30 - 7:49 pm

        Keep guessing you two…

    • #74 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 12:51 am


      • #75 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 12:51 am

        I click on it and sit on the Pod?

    • #76 by Greenie on 2011.05.31 - 4:22 pm

      Indicator of a “Sparkle” nearby!

      • #77 by HighFlier on 2011.05.31 - 7:08 pm

        ”’YAY This was a good guess. Yes and I’ll whisper to all the fairies to let Greenie find some sparkles if they decide to come out again. heehee

  40. #78 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 1:58 pm could have cut out the middle man back when it was discovered that they were bleeding value from tbucks by offering the buyback system sooner. If they payed the developers for their surplus T’s at a higher rate then the resellers did, they could have shut them down sooner. I am sure that was one of the many things that in hindsight could have been done. I don’t think those changes would have saved There, though. I think it actually needed to close and wait for technology to catch up and to allow a restructure of the financing system.

    Thankfully, technology has caught up to There finally, I hope. There didn’t fail because it was old tech, but because it was ahead of its time. As all of us who have been unable to find a world as good can attest to. Even those who have tried to duplicate or better it have found, even though they don’t admit it. The fact that There was the model they tried to steal or mimic says it all. Even in Second Life There was trying to be duplicated but couldn’t be. Any one who claims There was ‘outdated’ is ignoring these facts.

    • #79 by jimony on 2011.06.05 - 12:57 pm

      “If they payed…” Don’t you mean “If they paid…”?
      And for that matter “…at a higher rate then…” should be “…at a higher rate than…”.
      And you have the gall to correct others grammar!
      I’m disappointed; I expected better from you, jimony!

  41. #80 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.29 - 1:37 pm

    Happy Memorial Day! Mr. Wilson. 😀

  42. #81 by MT on 2011.05.29 - 5:50 am

    Happy that There is reopening soon.. everyone who is complaining about “why is it reopening so late..” be grateful it’s even reopening in the first place! Would you rather wait and get an established product, or a rushed product? Give it time people.. it’s summertime here anyway! Besides working, I’m probably going to be doing lots of things outside so it’s all good (skydiving anyone?). I’m going to take a stab and say maybe August – September the client reopens, mainly due to the fact lots of people are out doing stuff in the summer.. or frankly to perfect this product.

    In all honesty, I’m probably going to rejoin and pay the fee. But the amount of time spent in world will be dependent on a few things only I determine. Hopefully I can get a few more races going with people I will recognize. I’ve seen a few familiar faces here, and hopefully more will return or new blood is infused in a rebuilt community.

    Anyways, will see you all soon I hope. Keep going strong. WINNING.


  43. #82 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.29 - 5:09 am

    Hi Mw will you still be doing maintenance the same way, Daily? If you answered this question already somewhere else i did`t see it, Sry.

  44. #83 by cory on 2011.05.28 - 8:56 pm

    PLEASE ANSWER. Why is it going to take so long to open the world back up?

  45. #84 by Jordan on 2011.05.28 - 2:53 pm

    Hey MW. With the $10.00 monthly fee. Will that cover for free paintball refills or will we have to pay for them?

  46. #85 by HighFlier on 2011.05.28 - 12:53 pm

    Someone will remember this Monster I bet. Oh, I wish it were drivable. I always imagined bashing up a few things with it…I’ll leave that to your imaginations.

    • #86 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.29 - 7:16 am

      Oh Yeah! I always wanted a pink one..Will be my first purchase if they still sell them… 😉

      • #87 by HighFlier on 2011.05.30 - 5:54 am

        Odile, I don’t think you fully understand what this pick is of. Let me give you another view of the same picture and see if it helps you recognize this monster. Look very close to the front. I don’t think there’s a pink version of this gigantic monster. Your arms wouldn’t reach the steering wheel.

      • #88 by Orielle on 2011.05.30 - 7:52 am

        It reminds me of the huge model of the monster TUV that SonBlock had in his paz for the staff paz building contest There held in 2005. I voted for PixelVixen’s paz I think, but Vash won. ‘boo 😛 I use to go visit those pazes every once in a while but then they were moved to a nearby hood and then they were eventually removed I think. 😦

      • #89 by HighFlier on 2011.05.30 - 7:44 pm

        A MONSTER of the MONSTER heehee. Don’t believe iv seen this monster before but who knows. Cool pic Orielle with you at the wheel. Your monster pic appears to be a drivable monster but I think the one in my pic isn’t. We need a monster biographer who knows the histories and where abouts of all these monsters lol. Maybe a “Monster Museum” could be set up in future.

      • #90 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 12:49 am

        Highflier…Oh Yeah! I can see that monster now…not like the pink one I was talking about…
        >>>>>>>>>> runs away as not to be crushed LOL

    • #91 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 2:02 pm

      For a second, there, I was trying to click on the blue icon. Old habits die hard. Can’t wait for this one to renew anew.

      • #92 by HighFlier on 2011.05.30 - 5:36 am

        HA, yes Iv tried to click on things in my photos out of habit before too or tapped the arrow keys on the flat photo. Very funny how our minds can trick us into thinking we’re really There.

  47. #93 by JustinBeiber on 2011.05.28 - 9:52 am

    Where are we on the beta members thing? I heard that only alpha members will get free accounts? Is that true?

    • #94 by Amxscott on 2011.05.28 - 2:53 pm

      I believe he covered that in the Q and A section.
      Only the original beta accounts it seemed were lifetime.

  48. #95 by Maitane on 2011.05.28 - 8:28 am

    Dear Mr. Wilson,

    A possible solution for alt “mule” accounts might be in a choice of payment methods. When registering, a person is given the choice to set the account up as a permanent (Main There Avatar-MTA) pay-by-month flat fee or set the account up as an alternative (Alternative There Avatar-ATA) account with payment on a pay-per-use scale maxed at the MTA pay-per-month fee.

    New MTA accounts could be set up as pay two months up front then one month charged every 30 days thereafter. That way, if a person falls on hard times, they have a month of play to find other means to cover payment to continue playing. Also, if a charge doesn’t go thru, it gives Makena Technologies time to send notifications to the individual that the account will be locked for lack of payment on the date the account expires for lack of payment.

    ATA accounts could be charged an initial one-time set-up fee which could be used to verify payment means. Any charges that don’t go thru or is charged back, will lock the ATA account until the account pays another verify payment fee plus any charges outstanding. Makena could also have it set up so that if an ATA account is approaching the MTA pay-per-month fee, the person is given the option to convert the ATA account over to a MTA account.

    ATA accounts could have the option to be associated with a MTA account for those who need mules and designers who need to test items or ATA accounts could be stand-alone accounts for those users who want to just give There a trial or will have limited online time.

    And on the subject of 18+, I hope it will be clearly stated in the TOS that any adult caught setting up an account for an under 18 years old to use, or allowing an under 18 years old to use their account will also be subject to banning by credit card, IP address and any other means possible.

    • #96 by Amxscott on 2011.05.28 - 2:51 pm

      That is a cool idea to deal with Alts in a manner such as that 🙂

    • #97 by blutec on 2011.05.29 - 1:47 am

      Like +1 🙂

      So, I guess to keep cheap griefers from making “alts”, the initial fee of an “ATA” without “MTA”-association should be equal or more than the costs of a MTA set up…
      Or… to keep costs attractive for trials: 1 PayPal account can pay for MTA’s (and associated ATA’s) or 1 non-associated ATA. Additional: association on ATA profile page + any compromising MTA or ATA will affect all.

      I’ve got no clue if this charging/verification thing is costly, but so far it sounds effective for the good uses of “alts”.

      • #98 by Maitane on 2011.05.29 - 8:56 am

        Since an individual that is intent of griefing will go out of the way to do so, the best way to handle griefers would be to have it clearly stated in the TOS that the first offense will lead to a one month suspension of any and all accounts associated with that credit card, IP address, machine. A second offense would lead to a three month suspension. A third offense would lead to a full permanent ban of any and all accounts associated with that credit card, IP address, machine or any other method used to determine the griefer. Any suspended account for re-activation would be subject to a “steep” re-activation fee. Makena would reserve the rights to by-pass suspensions and go straight to Permanent Bans given the severity of the offense. And yes, this could affect every person in a household that plays There, but it is the household’s responsibility to insure that everyone in the household follows the TOS, not Makena’s. Therefore, a griefer should consider that it will not only affect them but any other member of their household that might be sharing the same credit card, IP address, machine, or any other means that is used to identify a griefer.

    • #99 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.30 - 4:11 am

      Maitane, nice Idea.
      I was thinking about something. We in There think of Avies as Mules. Since There cloesed I have been to many MMO’s sites. One way some of the games handle extra Stuff is a “bank” or a “storage Unite”. One good thing you don’t have to transfer things around from avie to avie. It kind of works like in real life. you go to the storage unite place and click on it and it shows all of your inventory that you have placed in your storage unite. Then you can choose to take out or put in your Items.
      This maybe another way to solve our “mule” dilemma.

      • #100 by blutec on 2011.05.30 - 10:00 am

        I’ve got mules and alts, would happily transform the mules into a safe-deposette and get rid of the avieshape (like +1, and I think I’ve read somewhere on this blog that it’s already in consideration by MW), but would be veryvery happy when alts can be allowed and (so) be contributing to the world (i.e. non-parasitic-alt) 🙂

  49. #101 by Geoffr524 on 2011.05.28 - 5:19 am

    Michael Wilson, do you think it would be possible to have ThereIM apps for smartphones like the iPhone?
    Would be so cool to have apps for iPhone and Android phones, so that people would stumble upon them, and try THERE out. If I had an ThereIM app on my iPhone, then I could keep in contact, even when I am away from a computer for awhile.

    Thanks for bringing back THERE.

  50. #102 by ThereVeteran on 2011.05.28 - 1:58 am

    I’ve been on There nearly since the beginning, and as I think I can safely say I want There to come back as much as anyone alive does. But I have to say, I do not feel like this attempt is on the right track to make that happen.

    I know we (I say we) have worked over this issue a lot and none of what I’m about to say will be new, but in order to come up with a business model that works, we need to take a cold hard look at what are the assets of There, and what are its main costs and drawbacks.

    We know the costs. Keeping servers online, paying for support staff, paying for bandwidth (network and CPU), etc.

    Previously (let us be honest) There failed pretty completely on all of those fronts. Let’s go through them.

    Keeping servers online.

    There went down for hours and hours, every single day. That’s unheard of in this day and age, and is really intolerable. “Daily maintenance” would be bad enough if it were 10 minutes. 3 or 4 hours every single day is not acceptable at all. For a big chunk of every real-world day, the online world was literally not There. That’s no good.

    Support staff.

    Anyone who ever had to deal with the extremely rude, barely literate, and downright imperious and bullying support staff of the old There – particularly in the final months and years – will attest that it would have been better to simply have no mods at all. I’m sure those people were working for pennies an hour, but even then they were not worth the investment. The idea to have volunteer guides was a good one, and I’m sure we players would all be happier if There 2 were largely policed by the community with a little bit more healthy anarchy to keep the world robust. If we’re all going to switch to a monthly payment model, then there should be no excuse for the old status quo, where certain favored users were given close access to their pet moderators essentially were able to lord their power over others, presumably only because they were paying for more PAZ space. We all know that this happened, and it was not pretty to see.

    This leads to the other costs, which can be lumped together roughly as “Paying for bandwidth”.

    I understand the desire to sell virtual “real estate” as a business model. But in honesty, it hasn’t worked for Second Life, and it will not work for There. It was (I believe) a mistake to take There in that direction to begin with. The upshot was a world littered with lovely little villages full of homes that nobody lived in. Why would someone live there? There was no draw. Did anyone rent a hut in any of those scenic little pre-fab villages, ever?

    There were some neighborhood PAZes and such with some small populations, but did they really amount to any serious revenue? Was the neighborhood PAZ system in any way preferable to a world with nothing but regular PAZes of different sizes, especially if provided functionality to nest PAZes within PAZes that are owned by different people? Maybe there was, but from the user side it didn’t seem that way.

    I think the approach to drawing income from users needs to be completely re-worked.

    For one thing, I think the game needs to go back to a straight-up free-for-all PAZ economy, where players buy a PAZ then pay for time on it. Let things like neighborhoods grow organically. Give the users more freedom and let things develop as they will. We should see less top-down development, and more bottom-up. If things get too laggy from crowding in a certain area, let the major PAZ owners there worry about that. If I own a 100×100 PAZ and I have a lot of smaller PAZes owned by other people inside it, then I’ll tell them to reduce their items when things get too crowded. If they don’t listen, I remove their PAZ. Done and done. No moderators needed. In almost all situations like this, players can figure the answers out for themselves. Again, I believe healthy anarchy of this kind is a must for an online world like There. Cut the apron strings, give people freedom to play and explore, and see what they come up with. Hold regular auctions for the big landmarks that people want to rent, to give people a chance to outbid the current owners. And for all the rest, leave it up to individual PAZ owners to build what they want, where they want. As much as possible, there should be no “rules”. If you want to prevent people from dropping a PAZ within 10 meters of a stranger, then you need to hire a coder to build that restriction into the game. There should be no need to call moderators to police this kind of thing.

    Now, if we’re moving away from Coke and Scion corporate sponsorship (which I for one would not miss), and if the virtual real-estate model as it existed before is not profitable, then let’s look at how to get money.

    The first obvious answer is to have people pay a monthly fee.

    But what is also obvious is that charging more per month does not equal more income. In fact, if you start charging the same price as World of Warcraft for what is (let’s admit it) a much more sparse and dated product (which is nevertheless still very attractive and competitive! see below), then it’s just not going to draw in new users. You’ll get your $10 a month (or whatever) from a few hundred of us addicts, and that will be all you ever see. The world will never take off. For every friend one of us lifers manages to draw in, another one will leave. This arrangement may (at BEST) win a kind of survival in stasis for There, but in the world of business, alas, standing still is the same as dying. There needs to be able to grow, and I just don’t see it happening when people have to pony up that kind of money right from the get-go.

    The solution to this will require some coding. We’re going to need to implement guest accounts. This will be people who can do NOTHING. They can walk around the world as observers, and nothing else. They can’t talk, unless someone talks to them first in (e.g., in an IM). They can’t hold items. They can’t ride in vehicles, or wear clothes. Their sole purpose is to see the world and, in seeing it, to begin to want to take part in it. Without this functionality, I believe, the pay-per-month model will not succeed.

    Also, this is not complaining, this is my opinion from a business standpoint. $10 a month is simply too much, especially if you’re going to try and get people to pay on top of that.

    “There” is a social game. It feeds on people. The optimum strategy here is to have a low floor and a high ceiling. Let the ones with shallow pockets get in for pennies, give the ones who can pay an incentive and an excuse to shell out hundreds, and thousands. That’s the ideal. We have to find a way to do this without creating an in-game class division like the de-facto one that existed before. I have a lot of ideas for how to do this, but this comment is getting too long. I will follow it up at another time, or anyone interested can email me directly.

    • #103 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.28 - 2:30 pm

      You do really go on with your self to much, Maybe its time we all stop with the long storys and look forward to the owners decisions how he plans to run the strategy of the game. 🙂 and michael wilson wooo 😀 cant wait :))))

      • #104 by ThereVeteran on 2011.05.29 - 12:41 am

        Too much. Stories. Owners’.

        If you’re not capable of giving analysis or constructive advice, then by all means continue cheerleading. Leave those of us who can do better than that to our business.

      • #105 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.29 - 8:30 am

        Veteran, the point is…do you really think MW hasn’t thought this through?

      • #106 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.29 - 8:41 am


        “Also, this is not complaining, this is my opinion from a business standpoint. $10 a month is simply too much, especially if you’re going to try and get people to pay on top of that.” —– is complaining

        Why dont you hold a meeting with MR Wilson and see how his point comes across to you!
        Everyones willing to pay up £ – $ anything, $10.00 is not to much 🙂 it might be to you but you cant run everything off a fee of $5 a month or less your crazy! – P.s. OPEN YOUR OWN WORLD! See how hard it must be :)))

      • #107 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.29 - 9:00 am

        and another thing the 10Meter rule is to stop people drop tricking or being right up someones ass! on the game, i would personally let anyone i know be next to me but no one else.

        Try SL 🙂 own land then you dont have to complain Vetran

    • #108 by Amxscott on 2011.05.28 - 2:46 pm

      I seems you were in a different There from a lot of the rest of us.
      I joined There in July 2003 and except in the beginning when There was closed a couple of days a week (of course we tried to sneak in the old back door) I do not remember daily maintenance taking 3 to 4 hours. On the occasion they had a problem on a push day, that took longer, but not every day.
      My dealings with the staff both office and in world was always good. I am not sure where you hung out but I never met staff that resembled your description. I for sure DO NOT want and kind of community policing !!!!!!!!!!!!! The world belongs to There let their staff police it, if the need be.
      On the lovely villages I seem to remember a lot of people living in them and i had a cool cliff house in TYR that I really enjoyed in addition to 2 neighborhoods.

      Complaining about $10 a month, next time you go through a drive through or order a pizza take a look at your receipt and you will see that for 30 days of great entertainment There at $10 or even $20 is a great deal.

      • #109 by ThereVeteran on 2011.05.29 - 12:44 am

        I’m not complaining about $10 a month. Can you read? I explicitly said I would pay it, as would you and the other old players.

        > “I for sure DO NOT want and kind of community policing”

        Yeah, it sounds like you’re part of the problem I was mentioning.

        > “My dealings with the staff both office and in world was always good.”
        > “i had a cool cliff house in TYR that I really enjoyed in addition to 2 neighborhoods.”

        Can you understand how these two might be related? Can you understand that that was my point?

      • #110 by Amxscott on 2011.05.29 - 1:16 pm

        There Veteran, the root of your post seems to be a list of “your” (not we) problems or perceptions of There. It appears that the majority of us liked There as it was and will be willing to support it when it reopens. You highlight my not needing community police and my appreciation of staff and land ownership as being bad. However I would point out, that the opposite is the fact, by good operation of the There World as it was, I and many others like me are willing to spend the substantial amounts we do each month for just that type of entertainment and will continue into the future.

    • #111 by VVVVVV on 2011.05.28 - 3:48 pm

      This must be a perception post..LOOOONG winded.

      • #112 by SassyBeMe on 2011.05.28 - 5:22 pm


    • #113 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.28 - 4:39 pm

      Wow i think your crazy

    • #114 by DavyRocket on 2011.05.31 - 2:27 am

      Here is a thought.. If you think you can do better, by all means, start your “OWN” virtual world, and let the “OWNER/CEO” of There manage/control his. Gosh what a great concept huh? lol

  51. #115 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.27 - 9:24 pm

    MW will you come to a pb zone when there opens

  52. #116 by ericman1967 on 2011.05.27 - 8:33 pm

    You can look at this as There 2 BETA , as oppose to the old There model that didn’t work financially! If they impliment all the things that caused There to close in 09 then it makes sense to think it would happen again. I do understand that we all want a lot of the things back that made There great, for me it was the open world model of going anywhere and everywhere and not just being confined to grids. Also buggies, paintball, pets, PAZ’S, and simple menus. I am happy that we are getting a good resemblence of what we had before, but obviously it didn’t all work, and some things have to go! I spend quite a bit of money on virtual goods. I had real reservations about doing so at first, But when you think about buying a copy of a game for Xbox @ $59.99 that may not be what you really wanted, and the limited upgrades that come with those games (that also cost more money) and the 60 dollars a year to play it on X-box live,You’re already looking at over 120 dollars a year just to play one game.There at 10 dollars a month, 12- months in a year is right at the same cost as any of today’s gaming platforms, X-box, sony PS. If you like There play it! I intend to. If you dont , then dont. But I can’t see anyone getting ripped off when you look at the cost of any other live gaming options out there!

  53. #117 by That Guy on 2011.05.27 - 6:48 pm

    Lol @ the irony of “Secrets of Vonira” being a copycat using my insult.. Which is exactly what Vonira was supposed to be of, right? #fail!

  54. #118 by Therefan123 on 2011.05.27 - 6:26 pm

    Hello MW,

    I was doing some research trying to get a better knowledge of your company and I cam across this and i was wondering if it is true because thats a lot of money!

    • #119 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.27 - 6:58 pm

      Look carefully at the date.

      • #120 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.27 - 11:37 pm

        Oh Good times. That brought me funny memories. I showed it to my friends and we were laughing about it. It’s always great to have a laugh during April Fools day. lol.

      • #121 by Therefan123 on 2011.05.28 - 9:01 am

        I must’ve missed the date lol thanks Mw.

    • #122 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.28 - 6:57 am

      April Fools 😀

  55. #123 by tollermike on 2011.05.27 - 6:00 pm

    Agreed. Moving the infrastructure to Amazon is going to take some work. MW is shelling out money to make all that happen. I’m betting a lot of things are in store for us assuming the business model is viable. One thing I never understood though was why married to GMAX. Why not go to Blender, Sketchup or some other opensource 3d modeling program. Not everyone can afford 3DMAX. Thanks MW for making this happen.

  56. #124 by SassyBeMe on 2011.05.27 - 5:51 pm

    While your all wondering if, or, how we can make money, and stuff again on THERE.. I’m going to be sitting here on my swing relaxing. Since he says we’re last to be set up.. sort of.. We gots time to relax. 🙂

    He’s never said no to the buyback program.. Just never said how he plans on making it wonderful for us yet. All he has said for sure is that you *can’t* sell your t-bucks to other members for your own price. I’m sure he is aware of how much we need both male and female to design test with. And since he is allowing him self time, they’ll come up with some cool idea for this… or.. if not.. we’ll tweak it later. 😀 Lord help submissions once we ,can, submit again if they take too long setting it back up. 😀

    I’m right along with paz snooping to see how people use the creations made. I always felt the paz builds was it’s own true art form.
    Y’all have fun with the regular scheduled program. I’ll be catching wind for awhile. 🙂

  57. #125 by Jinxed_Karma on 2011.05.27 - 5:35 pm

    I’ll be back; there’s no stopping me. I was fortunate enough to make some real $ from designing in There in the past, but it wasn’t my intention when I started. It turned out to be an incredible perk, especially when I was between jobs and needed to eat.
    I’ve spent a good portion of the last month (before it was certain There would reopen) becoming reacclimated to 3d modelling, and it has been a blast! It’s so cool to see an idea progress, but I get the most excitement thinking about how it will function in-world, and how people will receive it. Heck, I don’t plan on selling what I’m working on… It’s purely for the enjoyment of building for There. I’m just incredibly excited I might get the chance to make something for the There world again!
    I do hope to create designs to sell, and I hope dearly to make enough in order to continue operating Sutter’s Plateau… I truly loved doing that. I can’t wait to do it again.

    • #126 by Amxscott on 2011.05.28 - 2:24 pm

      Jinxed I am glad you will be back as I have not been able to buy a JnD buggy for over a year now.
      It is about time you got back to buggy building, and all the other cool things you create for us. 🙂

  58. #127 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.27 - 6:46 am

    I want an update!!!!

  59. #128 by Sanagustin on 2011.05.27 - 4:15 am

    Hello MW , it is nice to hear that is comming , i was late for the survey , sorry.
    Some people saying they are already playing ThereIM , is this true?

  60. #129 by Paddy on 2011.05.26 - 9:19 pm

    Hi Odile 🙂 , n hi all who know me , and all who wish they neva knew me 😛

    Mr. Wilson and Makena Inc. , please keep up the excellent work , and we will subscribe foreva ❤

  61. #130 by dakotaman on 2011.05.26 - 9:17 pm

    The multiple avies/transfer problem is challenging. I like the idea of allowing multiple avies on an account, but only allowing one in at a time. But then we will have to find a way to transfer stuff between them (as multiple-boxing wouldn’t work). I have an secondary avie that holds lots of my seasonal stuff. I certainly would be willing to pay a month’s fee on a second avie, just for the purpose of transferring inventory. But I also liked using the secondary avie, at times, to help new members, explore, etc. I’m sure that you’ll figure out a way that works.

    BTW, does the passage of time seem to have ‘slowed down’ for anyone else??


  62. #131 by alexandria3178 on 2011.05.26 - 8:25 pm

    Personally I am getting a little exhausted by all the people wanting to use there for free “to transfer items from one avi to another.” I understand your concerns about some people abusing the system.

    You have also talked about using two different payment schemes one being a flat fee and the other being a pay for use fee. There is an ISP named Aristotle, that uses a combination of both. Basically it is a pay for use up to a ceiling. It is $0.50 per hour up until $20.00 afterwhich it is “free” until the end of the month, where you start paying the $0.50 per hour.

    It seems that something like this would work well for all users, especially when it comes to tansferring from one avi to another. Lets say $0.50 per day up to the $10.00 for the month.

    Is a system like this feasable? or too complicated to work out?

    • #132 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 8:53 pm

      Well, people overwhelmingly hated the idea of pay-for-use, so we don’t think we’re going to invest in that.

      We want to find a solution the mules, but do it smartly, like allow for offline transfers (for example), or multiple avies per account (with only one allowed in at one time).

      The solution isn’t clear :-).

      • #133 by Jonathan on 2011.05.27 - 12:06 am

        For the multiple avies per account you could implement it like World of Warcraft do – they have a ‘’ account which then as long as you have ‘game-time’ you can have as many characters as you want.

        Just a thought.

      • #134 by Esky on 2011.05.27 - 6:33 am

        Personally I didn’t mind the idea of pay-for-use, and I voted in favour of it. Obviously the majority of people thought it meant that they *would* pay more, while I thought it *could* mean I’d pay less.

        On the other hand, a flat fee per month is much easier to deal with, so I’m fine with that idea too. 😀

      • #135 by Greenie on 2011.05.27 - 7:29 am

        “multiple avies per account (with only one allowed in at one time)”

        It is of great benefit to the object and vehicle developers to be able to appropriately game test items before submitting them. When this includes tags and interactions, being able to test with the necessary male and female avatars in varying numbers is vital.
        Collisions and positions in interactions are different for male and female avatars.

        Could this be considered before making a final decision on “mules” and “multiple avies”?

      • #136 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.27 - 3:33 pm

        Do you think it’s possible if you could set to you may only have one avatar at a time, and when people are transferring items over, could you set it to, when you give an item to someone, it will say they are offline and they will receive the item when they log on. Something similar how Second Life does it?

      • #137 by ARTIE on 2011.05.27 - 4:53 pm

        MW would something like this work?

        Let’s say I miss all my alternate avatars, and the unique stuff I bought for each personality, almost equally. But I cannot afford to pay 50 monthly memberships. So, what if, I activate one or two permanently and then choose one per month to use by paying a monthly membership. Then I let that membership expire and activate another old avatar for the next month. I never used any of my alts to grief, but my Leprecon Avatar was only fun to use around St. Paddy’s Day. So would it be possible to pay for him one month every year and keep all my green SPD stuff with him?

        In other words, I keep and active year around avatars for my wife and I, and then pay a use for a month fee for the others for when people visit my home and I want them to use an avatar, but not my personal one. They get a free taste of THERE on my paid alt, so that they can see the world and decide if they want to pay for their own full membership with monthly payments.

        Is something like that possible? I would allow me to distribute my inventory, but only access it when I pay to use the alt for a month.

      • #138 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.27 - 5:09 pm

        Ummm, I’m really confused, but we’ll keep that in mind (I think).

  63. #139 by Onus on 2011.05.26 - 4:05 pm

    500th comment. Sorry. I just had to do it.

    • #140 by Innie on 2011.05.26 - 6:05 pm

      ROFL. Onus, you were off by 4. HAHAHAHA.

    • #141 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.26 - 7:54 pm

      By the time someone says they typed the nth comment i would purposefully reply to someone’s earlier comment and make the comment n+1 th comment savvy?

  64. #142 by Cassi on 2011.05.26 - 2:39 pm

    MW: Just having a think… (and i should quit thinking after midnight, you’ll probably understand AFTER i ask lol).

    My partner and i are both willing to pay the 10, 15, or 20 dollar monthly fees for their reopening, but as many people have stated (repeatedly) the higher the fee the less we can imput in the game via tbux purchases. (no big deal really to us, we sell some old junk off and buy more junk with the tbux lol). BUT we were discussing it none the less. We aren’t afraid to put money in the game. we have NOT found anything as a substitute to We did wonder however if you have though about any of the details surrounding the there economy yet? I know designers moan about not being able to sell tbux out of world, but honestly I like the thought that isn’t going to happen (as widely as it did) and that more of the tbux will stay in world. I do however wonder if 1 or 2 options will now occur?

    1.) will the price of tbux be reduced? (i don’t remember the old rate but wasn’t it $1 =1800 tbux? Is that going to improve for us? (ie: $1 = 2300 or some other number, OR are we going to see package deals (outside of when you create an account such as $5 = 10000, $10= 24000 and $25= 70000 (ps: i’ve not done any math, just an example lol))

    2.) the other thing was, is there going to be a reduction in developer costs? either in wholesale prices or submission fees? I do understand it still takes manpower and resources to allow items into There, and that requires money.

    Will there be some sort of offset, however slight for the users? I understand no numbers can be given but are these being considered in some form?

    • #143 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 2:59 pm

      Sorry, our focus right now is “Will the number of people who have said they would spend $10 actually do so, and will that be enough to stay open”, so we haven’t thought about that yet.

      • #144 by mmeodiles on 2011.05.26 - 3:07 pm

        As for me….My husband DenzelS and I will give you 6 month for each of us at 10 dollars..yes..we will do what we say….unless an emergency arises….
        I know I might get shot for this, but maybe you should do one more little survey on that question alone? hmmm might not be so easy though to do that survey….

    • #145 by RMDesigns on 2011.05.26 - 3:56 pm

      Who knows, maybe they’ll keep the Tbux buy-back program? You never know till the fat lady sings(or MW in this case) Well none the less developers will still continue to exist even if its only for the fact of sharing their creations with the world only if its just a few people. Many developers, although lower quality(In most cases), and less known throughout the world were continuously releasing content, that they almost 100% knew they’d never make their money back on it. Some people did stuff for promotions for lets say (Hoods?) well everyone has a different reason not many truly expected to make a complete profit on something. I myself in fact just liked the fact that I could make stuff and have fun(Yes, fun… I did it purely because it was fun, true I sold some things here and there.)

      This is my rant, now who’s next?

    • #146 by v on 2011.05.26 - 4:19 pm

      ‘wave Cas – lol poke him with your stick! that will get the answer you want i bet ROFL —- v

      • #147 by Cassi on 2011.05.27 - 7:24 am

        ROFL omg I needed that V 🙂 ‘wavy wavy rofl and laugh at Davy hahahah lol. My first prop out will be my stick now 🙂

  65. #148 by JS on 2011.05.26 - 2:36 pm

    PS Also I put many replies because the people that are adding to the blog like myself talk to each other. It is a natural thing to do on blogs and forums. I better go find another forum that doesn’t get perturbed if someone posts. Most that I have seen in my days on the internet they like postings. That is what I thought. Please think about customer relations when it comes to various comments. One woman was thrown by your reply a few days ago when she asked a simple question. Now I am thrown. I didn’t see a sign that said please submit very few postings or it will be annoying. Maybe I will go look for a more appropriate forum on virtual worlds or There. I see this one isn’t what I thought it was. I need one that I won’t be beat like a dirty little red headed stepchild when I was only being a good and decent enthusiast. Have fun and good luck. Just delete this. No need to post. Thanks a lot

    • #149 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.26 - 3:56 pm

      Michael Wilson has to read and approve each and every comment here. Therefore, the more comments he has to approve, the less time he has working on the actual release of Might I suggest visiting and converse with your friends and offer any insights you might have. Over at Thumdar’s site, you won’t have to wait so long to find replies.

    • #150 by Oh Go Away Already! on 2011.05.26 - 6:11 pm

      So JS, a tap on the wrist and you’re off to SL never to return to There? One less hypersensitive soul in There? Oh what a shame… ”’yawn ‘wave, you’ll be sorely missed…

    • #151 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.27 - 2:33 am

      My dear young man, don’t take it too hard. Your work is ingenious. It’s quality work. And there are simply too many notes, that’s all. Just cut a few and it will be perfect.

  66. #152 by Hoverbiker on 2011.05.26 - 1:38 pm

    Any chance of re-opening the forums before ThereIM, There Central and There planet? If nothing else it would certainly ease the load on your blog.

    • #153 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 3:00 pm

      Probably not. We’re still thinking about forums.

      • #154 by Amxscott on 2011.05.28 - 3:25 pm

        In the time I have been in SL (since There closed) I have not once been to there forums, (I think they have forums??) anyway I have not missed them. If it saves operating costs skip them. If we want to chat in forums Thumdar has always been around. He is a destination anyway with all the downloads and things he offers, and i know he is doing a lot of work on his site so just, let us use his site for forum chat and focus your efforts on the There world.

  67. #155 by JS on 2011.05.26 - 11:56 am

    #478 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 – 10:28 am
    P.S. Do you know you’ve posted 22 times to this forum blog?

    A thousand apologies. I was just having fun posting. I didn’t know it was a negative and was a thorn in your side. I thought I was contributing good ideas or comments. Apparently it disturbed you. I am off to SL I guess. Thanks a million

  68. #156 by HighFlier on 2011.05.26 - 11:41 am

    I liked There Fun Times and I hope it remains the main events blog for It was easy to follow and loaded fast. I got in the habit of checking it each morning before work when I didn’t have time to log into the world or when There was closed for maintenance. Hope to see it updated soon with events & info.

  69. #157 by yankeerose on 2011.05.26 - 11:27 am

    Excited!!! 🙂

  70. #158 by Marianne Mohr on 2011.05.26 - 5:49 am

    Thanks for the Q&A update on the process of getting back avatars. Indeed there are complications with old addresses, passwords, even old computer IP addresses. Will we be able to begin the request to research when ThereIM opens in June – and we pay the subscription and associated research fees? Thanks to all at Makena for this Wonderful oppty to reclaim our world!

    • #159 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 7:10 am

      We have to decide how that will be done and how much it will cost. Fair warning though, this will require significant manual research on our part, so you can expect it to cost a significant amount of money.

    • #160 by JS on 2011.05.26 - 10:15 am

      It would seem people would know their password. I know I used two passwords. One for a long time but for security reasons changed it. I know both of them. So I hope knowing the password alone is good enough. Knowing the email for each avatar or still having that email address is a different story. Having a secret question and answer could be possible. Knowing the answer is also a good possibility lol. But occassionally I can’t recall my answer. I think I can get my main avatar back. I am pretty confident. However I would like to get some of my alts back just temporarily just to get some of my items from them to put on the main one. I call it main because that is the account with my items that I have for auction. And my original name. Though I do like some of my alt names. Maybe we can be allowed to keep the names for free as an alt within our one subsription price. Maybe 5 additional avatars. Though it will only be possible to log in one of them at a time. These 5 additional alts are a bonus for us. The only advantage There inc will have is having their customers happy and feeling we have more value for our 10 dollar subscription fee. Once you lock us in to that you have us on the hook.

      • #161 by JS on 2011.05.26 - 10:22 am

        I said it will only be allowed to log in one avatar at a time. But I was thinking I need to log in the alts to transfer some things to my main avatar. I don’t know how an alt situation would work. All I know is my alts have some portazones on them and items possibly for building. Homes maybe. I don’t want to throw those out. At the very least I want them on my original avatar. But also at the same time I would like to keep a few alt names. I don’t know how we can do this. If they are allowed to log in simultaneously maybe only from one IP address so that way they can’t let their friend use it from another city.

      • #162 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 10:28 am

        As I’ve said, we don’t know what we’re going to do about Alts yet, and one big issue to be considered will be abuse (I just needed it for a week. Oh wait, 2 weeks. Oh wait, I was on vacation for part of that, so, a month….). When we have an answer be sure and let everyone know.

        P.S. Do you know you’ve posted 22 times to this forum blog?

      • #163 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.28 - 10:12 am

        Can we use two diffrent computers to login two of our avies just to tranfer stuff from one avi to another?

      • #164 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.28 - 11:49 am

        Yes, but currently you have to pay for them both.

      • #165 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.28 - 2:18 pm

        Thank you mw noproblem.

  71. #166 by JS on 2011.05.25 - 10:35 pm

    cont. Or maybe instead of There having to buy items have a donation situation where the developers will sign away all rights for their item to go into the shop and add to the profits of There to help this business model out to help bring it to a cusion of profit. Have a digital form that we can click to contribute. I could give a couple or my custom buggies. Of course there would have to be quality control. You can’t sell weak products in the shop. Just kicking around ideas.

  72. #167 by JS on 2011.05.25 - 10:20 pm

    I am glad someone agreed with me like Monte above. You can’t reply to a reply so I will just type more here. If I can get just credit toward my monthly fee by selling my items I am fine. If it turns out after making a few says I only have to pay 3.95 or whatever on a given month then it is paying for my virtual world fun. Or if I get lucky it can pay for my monthly fee and even give me a few extra tbucks for myself. Yes that means I am a small time developer. I just have a collection of buggies to sell and a few other things.

    I am for whatever makes this ship sail to a profit. Keeping going. If that means not buying the tbucks back as Monte was talking about and only taking them back to go toward our subscription fee I am okay with that. I just want There something that exists online always. For years to come. Whatever it takes. Because when it was here we just took it for granted that it would always be there for us. This time we have to really keep it going at any cost.

    So of course some of those bigtime sellers with all those fancy things that usually earn them lots of tbucks monthly might get upset and something that will take away their big money making business. I was thinking it would be advantageous for There to purchase some of these sellers items from them. The intellectual property that is where they have the right to resell them in the shop. Like those nice flying dragons I like. Buy those out or other cool flying machines from people so There will make the money and not them.

    So there looks at the potential for a certain item and how it sells and makes a reasonable offer for it. I don’t know how much. Maybe it would be 300 dollars for something. I don’t have a clue. There demand to take the deal will be pretty high when they know there is no financial gain other than 10.00 monthly fee to be had. Just some ideas. It probably is of no value and isn’t worth much but I will submit this comment anyway.

    Have a good evening!
    Far Northern CA

    • #168 by Esky on 2011.05.26 - 12:37 pm

      I gather from what’s been said before that the $10 fee is intended to provide the minimum amount of income that There needs to operate. Rental payments using real world currency would then be on top of that, providing additional income. That means the buyback scheme should operate outside of that income as well. Presumably it would be like paying out cash to designers that had been received from other players to purchase Tbux. So assuming the first two items (monthly fee + rental income) cover the cost of running there **theoretically** the buyback scheme should not affect the economy adversely.

      Personally I think the buyback should be open to anyone who can show legitimate receipts of income creating their Tbux surplus (i.e. they don’t just get a huge chunk of Tbux from another player and decide to sell them, which could look suspiciously like money laundering).

  73. #169 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.25 - 7:11 pm

    MW, I surely hope there is a way to let all people from all over the world play THERE..
    I recently made a statement on FB about being so excited about THERE opening…I then saw a lady say, she would love to play the game, but, probably would not be able to..She was from the Philippines. She was sad…Please come up with a genius way to help people from ALL over the world play THERE..Thank you in advance….
    I am double nationality French/American, and I happen to live in the USA…

  74. #170 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.25 - 7:06 pm

    Why is the above statement…still here ^ ….please delete that statement I made about asking to delete a you have two areas to delete..The above statement..and this…please help!! Ty

    • #171 by mimi06 on 2011.05.26 - 3:04 am

      @ Odile, I happen to like that post being there^, it helps me find where we leave off 🙂 hugz! rofl

      • #172 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.26 - 6:29 am

        rofl rofl hahahaha

  75. #173 by Paddy on 2011.05.25 - 5:53 pm

    I personally can’t wait to get back on There , Ive missed it so much , the good times and memories .
    But of course there was bad times, but so much has changed in life , I would like to get back on, heal old wounds , bury the hatchet.
    I got on with a lot of people , and fell out with a lot of people too , but I’m hoping to put all the bs behind and make up for the mistakes in the past .
    I hope I can make amends with the people I fell out with and just try and make things better . There is a wonderful place , with wonderful memories for all of us. Granted people have there differences, but we need to make this a better experience for all of us. There isn’t many times that people get a second chance. I look forward to getting back on , and forgetting all the drama.

    Im looking forwad to seing everyone one again , and hope that we can all enjoy There , as it was meant. If anyone knows me ❤ please comment ❤

    – Paddy , from across the sea on an island ❤

    • #174 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.25 - 10:30 pm

      I agree paddy but theres still a hand full of people thats burnt to many bridges that can`t be fixed. I`d be happy to do some paintballing with ya and see how lifes been treating ya tho. ( tu )

      • #175 by Paddy on 2011.05.26 - 12:28 pm

        Hiya Bump , id be happy to paintball with you too , but to be honest you nned to let all the past and bad blood go. This is a second chance for all of us to build bridges , even bridges that have been burnt.
        You and snoop and all the crew from Zephyr , this is a new start , I’m letting all the bad blood and bs from the past go , I suggest you do the same , we can all get along and have fun.

      • #176 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.28 - 2:17 pm

        Hi paddy if you read post 300 you`ll see how he like to keep sticking his nose into other peoples buzz, When its none of his! just to keep the crap flying like he always has. I guess its in his blood , I hope i dont act like that when iam 70 years old. This is why some bridges can`t be fixed and iam not the only one who feels that way. Can`t wait to paintball its my crack lol. and i need a fix. : )

      • #177 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.28 - 4:11 pm

        Like i said paddy he just cant drop stuff even if it has nothing to do with him, ( Griefer )

    • #178 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.26 - 6:30 am

      Hey Paddy, Is that really you?

      • #179 by Paddy on 2011.05.26 - 12:24 pm

        Yea its me , Paddy from Ireland , im really sorry but its been so long and so much has happened that Ive actually frgotten alot of people , but looking forward to getting to know everyone again . Old age lol my memory is gone bad lol

      • #180 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.28 - 3:28 pm

        Hey Paddy,
        It’s great to see your going to be back in There when it re-opens.
        Looking forward to seeing you again and catching up.
        Make sure your PB gun is loaded LOL
        You said:
        “I hope I can make amends with the people I fell out with and just try and make things better”
        I sure as hell could never say what you did, after what happened, but I guess that is what makes us all different.
        Paddy, YOUR THE MAN!!

  76. #181 by Saint Vattica on 2011.05.25 - 4:05 pm


    Our items and TB will be returned to us but what about saved places, skills and name tag color. Also what about our avatar names, will we have new ones or get stuck with the old ones unless we subscribe a new avatar?

  77. #182 by mimi06 on 2011.05.25 - 1:44 pm

    peeks in, yep questions still coming rofl.. I had thought just abiut every question had been asked. WRONG lol.. I so enjoy reading all this.. Feels good to have THEREIM on my desk top.. altho I’m sure I’ll have to reinstall it.. anyways, I am still smiling 🙂 (back to my cornor )….

    • #183 by mimi06 on 2011.05.25 - 1:46 pm

      magnavison time, spell check mimi.. cant white out enter rofl..:P

  78. #184 by Jess on 2011.05.25 - 10:07 am

    This is a question to you Michael Wilson: If THERE is re-opening will vMTV also re-open?

    • #185 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.25 - 10:40 am


    • #186 by JS on 2011.05.25 - 1:03 pm

      Maybe you can get type happy in the late evening. Come on here and tell us how things are going. Just a few words gives us something interesting to read. I am not impatient about all this. It is just a side attraction online to come to this page now. Ever since everybody is making this blog the place to be I guess until There reopens. After There is opened I am sure this ThereMichaelWilson WordPress site will be just like before, just an occasional entry. Which I am sure you are fine with.

      I wrote yesterday presuming that There wasn’t going to buy our tbucks from us then some guy wrote talking about how it wouldn’t be worth his time if you didn’t. Then you said you will buy them back later. Maybe you shouldn’t wait too long. They will just keep saving the tbucks then BOOM You are hit with a bill for tbucks purchases. Maybe you should get that rolling fairly quickly so you don’t get into that situation. Or you can limit the selling to so many tbucks per account per month so these bigshots don’t break the bank.

      I wonder if you factored in this buyback tbucks program into the new business model. Or you might have left it out. I wonder what would happen if you didn’t buy them back? Would people still pay to submit things to sell? I am sure they would because they love to create things and enjoy it. I won’t be submitting anymore I don’t think. I have plenty of things to sell now. In fact I would like to delete some items to clear the clutter of items I no longer wish to sell. Please try and add functionality so we can easily delete unwanted items.

      Don’t mind me. I am just rattling.

      Northern CA Avatar Enthusiast

      • #187 by M0NTE on 2011.05.25 - 4:43 pm

        I find it kind of humorous that some feel it is not worth their while to join if they can’t turn a real world profit by developing items in a virtual world. Maybe I’m wrong, but There was probably not created so third parties could financially prosper in the real world. I say can the third party Tbux/cash transactions and agree with JS, if There does decide to offer a Tbux buy-back then keep it to a monthly minimum or even maybe just a buy-back for account credit towards monthly subscription fees for that developer. Ultimately I would rather worry that is turning a profit and can stay open….just my opinion…

      • #188 by Esky on 2011.05.25 - 9:50 pm

        From what I recall, promotions in There Central for joining the Development program as well as owning a neighbourhood always sounded to me like they were telling people they could make a profit. So I’m not surprised at all that some people are fixed on the idea of making a profit out of their There experience.

        Me on the other hand… I’m happy to just spend my cash to be back in There.

      • #189 by jimony on 2011.05.26 - 3:08 am

        I think the developers are good for There, and letting them turn a dollar will make them better and better for There.
        It was the Tbuck resellers who would give the developers cash for their T’s at a much lower rate than There sold them, and then sold them to other players for a profit that was still below the value There set. They were siphoning off income from those transactions that lost out on.
        If There buys Tbucks back from designers (and only some sort of registered designer system should allow them to sell Ts back to There) they will be supporting the designers creatability and cutting out the middle man that siphoned off that income.

  79. #190 by Heather on 2011.05.25 - 9:54 am

    I paid for a LifeTime account after Beta ended, does this mean I will just be able to sign on to the There IM when it opens up?

    • #191 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.25 - 11:59 am

      You will have to pay a monthly fee, as yet undetermined.

  80. #192 by hugsalot on 2011.05.25 - 7:44 am

    Also what about our passwords? I still have mine saved, so I assume our old passwords will still work, but what about those who have forgotten than for the past year+ since it’s closing? Also can new users sign up the day it opens (even thereIM?) or will it only just be existing users for a short while?

  81. #194 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.25 - 7:42 am

    I remember gift cards were an issue before because it wouldn’t go through the billing system properly. Do you think it’s possible if we could purchase either AMEX Gift Card, or Visa Gift Card if we can’t get the Ultimate Game Cards to purchase our monthly membership?

  82. #195 by hugsalot on 2011.05.25 - 7:39 am

    About inventory, especially Quest Kits. I received a quest kit as skill reward, but didn’t want it. I couldn’t delete it on my own, and had to request an employee to remove it from my inventory. But they couldn’t actually delete it except to “hide” it from my inventory. So it’s still in my inventory, and I hope that when my account is restored this item is NOT restored.. as well as any other “Hidden” items that I don’t want.

    I’m also wondering if I will still have all my comercial brand name items, Nikes shoes, Levi jeans, Coca-Cola vehicles and apparel. I don’t know if you guys still have a licence agreement to keep these items. As well as items from developers who may not return to when it reopens. I’m an old beta user with items from users who quit playing back around 2004.

    Summer of 2011 yay!

  83. #196 by Tiger100 on 2011.05.25 - 7:15 am

    What GLaDOS is going to do in Will the players be able to see her or just hear her speaking?

    For short: GLaDOS what for?

  84. #197 by Innie on 2011.05.25 - 6:47 am

    HA! I made at account at YowNow ages and ages ago, but have never posted on their forums. I guess they saw my name on this blog because i just got an email that I have been banned from their forums. Wow…….that is sad (and funny).

    Michael, I want you to know that you have spoiled us. It has been 5 days since there was a blog update, and I keep checking daily thinking you will have updated it. LOL.

    • #198 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.25 - 7:29 am

      I updated the Q&A. Does that count?

      • #199 by Saint Vattica on 2011.05.25 - 3:53 pm

        No it does not. Sorry.

      • #200 by Innie on 2011.05.25 - 7:07 pm

        Nope, I wish it did. hahahahaha. Its ok. I am just ready to be back home. It has to be soon, though. I am going broke on Big Fish Games, LOL! Oh, Michael, I have a question. I know I get a free membership (since I am an old beta member with lifetime), however I want to pay. I dont want to complicate things, so would it be easier if I just took over my sons account as my “mule” that way I could pay for a membership?

    • #201 by Snougee on 2011.05.27 - 1:21 pm

      Innie 😀 I miss ya

  85. #202 by Drakez on 2011.05.25 - 5:06 am

    I don’t understand if it’s going to be 18+ why you wouldn’t have an “everything goes” approach in terms of explicit content. D you have some moral motive or something? I mean that would allow you t have less employees, and I doubt, given the nature and format of the game, it wont become a sex jungle.

    • #203 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.25 - 6:35 am

      If you want explicit content, go to SecondLife. is so much better without the junk.

    • #204 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.25 - 11:58 am

      Many over 18 folks don’t enjoy “anything goes.” “Adult” and “lewd” are not synonymous.

    • #205 by Drakez on 2011.05.26 - 5:12 am

      No my point is, with the abilities you have in the game, it wont turn into pornville at all. This game’s demographic is mostly older people anyway, but allowing that stuff would cut down on moderation and worst comes to worst, you see a topless avatar walking around every now and then..

  86. #206 by That Guy on 2011.05.25 - 2:23 am

    Lol @ “Secrets of Vonira” name commenting on MW’s blog. #douche

    • #207 by Secrets of Vonira on 2011.05.25 - 1:34 pm

      Lol @ “That Guy” name commenting on MW’s blog. #douche

  87. #208 by JS on 2011.05.24 - 10:36 pm

    I thought that the JinXplorer as was from JinxTv for some reason. Maybe because I think JinxTv gave it to me I think. I was corresponding with her when she bought my tbucks and I think she gave me one so that is why I thought she created it. Plus Jinx is in the name also. Thanks for the information. The guy who created that is a nice guy for letting us all use it. If I was him I might have used it for my own business and not let everyone else have it since it would just allow everyone else to easily put up more auctions competing with me. But this person was a better man than me I guess.

    I am glad to hear there will be a buy back of our tbucks at some point. Now I have a chance at earning some of my 10.00 fee back. Even if I earn a lousy 5.00 a month selling the items I have it will be okay. In fact maybe when we cash in you guys can make the system where it will just deduct my tbucks money from my monthly subscription fee. That might be a little complex to start something like that though. That situation with the code you will need to accomplish it.

  88. #209 by frank on 2011.05.24 - 6:06 pm

    Will ratings still be the same? Our PB team was #1 when There closed.

    • #210 by erick758 on 2011.05.25 - 2:05 am

      Lmfao… i wonder y

    • #211 by Rick caldas on 2011.05.25 - 3:44 am

      yeah stolen points like every other team on the top50 , mr wilson im gonna ask you could you please reset all stats and rantings from the top 50’s~?

      • #212 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.25 - 1:35 pm

        I’m sure you meant ratings instead of rantings….let’s not have any rants about right now 😀

  89. #213 by Mike on 2011.05.24 - 4:51 pm

    Heres what will happen with people under 18 years of age. The teens that are 16-18 will ask mom/dad to sign up an account for them. Even in voice can you tell they are 16-18? As far as you will know they are 18+. Only the really young pre-teens will get caught but still only if in voice. So I wish you luck keeping it 18+. It will put a dent in how many make it on THERE underage but it will never stop it.

    • #214 by Celtic on 2011.05.24 - 6:33 pm

      oh wow, so..third party buyers won’t be permitted. Will developers/designers have the option to sell to, the Therebucks they have earned?

    • #215 by pHluid13 on 2011.05.24 - 6:47 pm

      But is it worth the risk of a permaban? Especially since all it will take is a few more years to get back in without the risk?

    • #216 by JS on 2011.05.24 - 6:52 pm

      You can’t keep the 17 year old girls from acting 23. They will make their voice very mature and sexy sounding like Marilyn Monroe in her heyday. There isn’t much we can do about that other than to accept it. Now when the teen boys talk you will know it because they will act like baby boys crying for mommy with a childish tone. We can at least weed those little devils out.

      • #217 by Saint Vattica on 2011.05.25 - 3:51 pm

        As i just turned 18 this year, I have never come across a website where i couldn’t fake something to get on it. If these kids want to play there, they are going to be able to get on way or another.

    • #218 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.25 - 7:59 am

      @ Mike and JS: Hahaha, Too funny, If you think that a teenager can act like an adult and get away with it. Your comments show how young you are! 😀

      • #219 by Mike on 2011.05.25 - 9:02 am

        LOL thanks SaltySilver. I’m 39 so i’ll take that young comment. And if you think that about teens then you need to open your eyes. Difference between a 16 year old and a 18 – 19 year old isn’t all that much with personality.

      • #220 by JS on 2011.05.25 - 5:34 pm

        I was just being slightly humorous. And for you to make a blanket statement like that shows you must be in your twenties smoking something funny. How silly. Some you can tell are teens. But some you can’t. If I tested you you wouldn’t always get it right. Some 23 year old girls sound like young teens being silly and giggling. Or some 15 year old boy might sound 20 with a deep voice. And maybe have have a brain. His hobbies could be welding in his dad’s shop. So when he talks welding to your silly self for an hour then he tells you he is a teen you would be an idiot wouldn’t you lol. So believe me you don’t have voices and personalities down to a science.

        Myself I want it 18 and up. I like to know I am talking to an adult myself irrespective. Plus There doesn’t need to be babysitting and be responsible for them. Sorry you want the romper room environment. I want mine adult oriented. Don’t worry they will be 18 before you know it. Rest assured.

      • #221 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.26 - 11:04 am

        I don’t know what you are talking about JS. I do believe that you are putting words in my mouth. Yes, no one can tell how old someone is by voice when you meet them. There are other ways to figure out how old someone is when talking to them, such as historical events over the past few decades, pop culture referances from earlier years, speech patterns. Maybe these are things that you have not thought of before. Oh? twenty-something smoking something funny? really? Ladies don’t tell their age… figure that one out to see how old you think I am. I work around kids all day long. Yes, there are some kids who are better educated and can hold an intelligent conversation. There will be a time when they will show their age due to the content of what they tell you about their day-to-day experiences. And for the record, I never said I wanted anything other than an 18+ requirement for There.

      • #222 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.28 - 7:48 pm

        Point is even if u figure out someone to be a kid there isnt any way to prove it unless the kid speaks out saying he really is under 18 and thats almost an impossible event

  90. #223 by JS on 2011.05.24 - 3:45 pm

    Are we still going to be able to sell our tbucks? I forget what you said about not allowing people to buy them or sell them. Like JinxTv bought tbucks and sold them. I used to earn a few tbucks and sell them to her. How will it work now?

    • #224 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 3:54 pm

      No, that will no longer be allowed.

      • #225 by Secrets of Vonira on 2011.05.24 - 5:27 pm

        MW, if you were to charge real money via PayPal or credit card for zone and neighborhood rentals, isn’t it possible that you could still allow 3rd party Therebuck resellers? The monthly account subscription fee could help towards the cost of public lands while the monthly zone rental fees would cover the server costs for the zones. There would probably still get some sales on therebucks too as extra.. But then you could allow 3rd party resellers, no?

      • #226 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 6:04 pm

        We’re not going to allow re-sellers, period. Aside from their drain on the economy, we had real problems with unscrupulous “resellers” ripping people off.

      • #227 by JS on 2011.05.24 - 6:40 pm

        Well I will look at the bright side. All the tbucks I earn I can buy things in the auction. I was hoping to sell a few to offset my monthly fee though. But oh well. I wonder what this will do to the economy in There? I guess it puts JinxTv out of business that is for sure. Where will the incentive be to submit things to the auction and develop new products? I am sure it will still be there but to a smaller degree. Some people that have a huge inventory of items will certainly be in the tbucks and will likely just give some tbucks to their friends maybe. Who knows. Time will tell what this will all mean. I guess you aren’t buying tbucks from us like SL buys our Lindens from us. No need to answer any of this. It is mostly rhetorical I think. I don’t think you plan on buying any from us or you would have mentioned it. I better go find JinxTV’s explorer. I think I deleted it since you guys closed. I will need that to help me put my auctions back up easier. Have a good night!

      • #228 by Orielle on 2011.05.24 - 7:18 pm

        I assume you mean JinXplorer, and not JinxTV’s explorer. JinXplorer was created by SonBlock, not by JinxTV. He no longer has it up on his site. I don’t even know if it’ll still work when There reopens…

      • #229 by majandithere on 2011.05.24 - 7:59 pm

        But you are thinking of re-installing the buyback program, right?

        Because I must confess that the opportunity to turn Therebucks back in to real money is quite an essential part for me.

        I personally would see a monthly subscription fee as part of the investment in my There business, together with submission fees, auction sales deduction (seems a bit like double taxing, doesn’t it? – never mind), time and effort spent on development, advertising etc.

        I honestly wouldn’t do that just to fill my virtual pockets with virtual money to spend on virtual rentals and yet other virtual goods.

        We developers need to eat, pay rent and gas and power bills in RL too.
        And I think most of us don’t consider them selves plain service consumers here.

        By investing RL resources we do expect some RL turnaround as well, of course.

      • #230 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 8:04 pm

        Yes, but not immediately.

      • #231 by hugsalot on 2011.05.31 - 8:59 am

        You’re going to have to actually remove the ability to give T$ directly to other avatars for this to actually work Michael. I hope you plan to set up an exchange system so users can sell their extra T$ in an open market to other avatars, and you guys can make a commission on every exchange.

  91. #232 by DrChisel on 2011.05.24 - 3:44 pm

    Have you thought about adding something in the there start up menu that shoes how many people are online? I think it would be neat, and also looking forward to next update.

  92. #233 by Biggiedude420 on 2011.05.24 - 3:42 pm

    i cant beleive ive been a there member since i was 15 or 16 lol will be glad to get back in game i seen a few familiar people in here but not alot I hope everyone is aware of the opening. lol

  93. #234 by Deleight on 2011.05.24 - 2:07 pm

    Hey Mr Wilson… I’m pretty sure I remember my password and such.. but my email address has changed and no longer have access to the address I used when I originally created my avatar. How much of a problem will this be?


  94. #235 by There Lover on 2011.05.24 - 1:46 pm

    Is it possible if we had alt avatars and we no longer need them at all, is it possible to get you guys to delete them buy showing password, email ect. ?

  95. #236 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.24 - 11:46 am

    Has the team got to work on getting the services prepped? are you also thinking of changing the name of to a different like or something?

  96. #237 by Unknown on 2011.05.24 - 10:21 am

    Who is this second ” Unknown ” Person I see posting in these blogs…

    • #238 by Joeydantonio on 2011.05.24 - 12:37 pm

      This information is unknown, unknown.

  97. #239 by plainmoose on 2011.05.24 - 9:09 am

    I cant wait for to open

  98. #240 by Rodney on 2011.05.24 - 8:39 am

    Are you going to have There Central open to the public just as before? I cannot imagine that costing anything to accessible by non-paying members. There can be revenue gathered from advertisements to non-paying members on There Central. & Implementing a more of a social networking feel on There Central, focusing on the game and community.

  99. #241 by DodgeBoy101 on 2011.05.24 - 8:19 am

    Very glad 2 get an (around date) on when There is comeing back 2 life 🙂 Wish it wasnt another month away, but as we all know, its worth the wait 🙂 Will be looking forward to updates, thanks mr. wilson 🙂

  100. #242 by Jordan on 2011.05.24 - 7:45 am

    Hello MW. Can I ask a question?
    Will we get stippends from the monthly fee?
    or will that be for just playing on an account?

  101. #243 by teri on 2011.05.24 - 7:34 am

    if you get banned for being under eighteen, can the ban be lifted when you can prove you are of age?

    • #244 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 9:36 am

      Hmm. We’ll have to think about that.

      • #245 by Biggiedude420 on 2011.05.24 - 3:31 pm

        lol looks like someone is planning on lying bout their age lol

      • #246 by teri on 2011.05.25 - 12:49 pm

        I meant as two scenarios, either you are falsely accused or you turn eighteen after someone has been caught.

    • #247 by WikkedBliss on 2011.05.25 - 7:08 am

      It would be really great if we could leave SL and all of it’s crap and stupid ideas over in SL, it costs 100L to partner someone and I think 25L to divorce them… I don’t think that is gonna to make or break There2. Buying your tbucks from a 3rd party will however : )

  102. #248 by Karenanna on 2011.05.24 - 7:28 am

    What about new people? I have a couple of friends from where I am now who want to try it! :))

    • #249 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 7:30 am

      Hmm. What do you mean? New people can register too!

      • #250 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.24 - 9:32 am

        hmmm somewhere on this blog I had read something to the effect: For now only previous Therians will be using the game, and new members will have to wait? That is not exactly how it was put, I am sorry, I cannot really explain…But I did read something somewhere LOL LOL
        Maybe someone could clarify something I read somewhere? 😉

      • #251 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 9:55 pm

        @OdileS: I also read a previous post about the subject, but it was an assumption by a poster, not by MW. It doesn’t make sense to block new people from registering. I am sure there will be many existing members who need to create new accounts because they can’t remember the info to their old ones. I don’t remember reading any statement from MW saying otherwise.
        It may have been a post regarding only paid members for now, and trials will be considered in the future. For now, only Premium, or paid members will be using the game. That doesn’t exclude new members as long as they pay.

    • #252 by whitefeatherbeth on 2011.05.24 - 9:37 am

      …hey Karen! :)) Meet you at the logs in cosmo we have a lot of catching up to do!

      And on a different note: Michael I was wondering if you would maybe think about implementing the “partnering or marriage” thingy in THERE2… as it seems to generate interest and money for a certain other virtual world. Charge to have the partnership on profiles, and also charge to have it removed lol

      • #253 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.24 - 9:53 am

        I like this Idea too, actually its like, ‘ I’m taken’ so don’t bother me please ‘ 😉
        but….. in another sense, would it not be ..kind of like…advertising ‘ I’m available ‘ ?
        Could that maybe lead to: ‘There’, being used as a meet up place for singles? I know it’s going to be 18+ but these questions do come to mind when talking about a Partnership button etc….

      • #254 by whitefeatherbeth on 2011.05.24 - 1:01 pm

        There1 allowed a person to list themselves as single on their profile etc…. listing a marriage, partner or spouse (what ever you want to call it) could generate additional money, as would a virtual divorce.

        …and as someone once told me, “all of these virtual worlds are nothing more than a dating service”. That is not my opinion, but who am I to question love. 😉 Anyway its just another idea for making money to help support the game.

  103. #255 by Bobby on 2011.05.24 - 4:32 am

    Dear Mike,
    I hope the journey you are on here is very successful!
    I for one was really bummed when we lost, I am sure not near as bummed as you and your employees.
    I want to personally thank you for not only bringing there back, but also the professionalism in which you treated us all at the closing of there you are a straight shooter and never lost your cool at I am sure was one of the hardest times of your life. (Losing your business been there, It sux : )
    Can’t wait to see you in There2 and I truly believe it will be very successful for you and your investors.
    Keep your dream alive!!!!
    Thanks again
    P.S. I can help some if you need volunteers.

  104. #256 by Unknown on 2011.05.24 - 3:54 am

    when are you going to make a new update on things

  105. #257 by JS on 2011.05.23 - 9:22 pm

    I keep seeing this dumb name company YowNow on this blog here. I don’t know why you didn’t blog it since it is a potential competitor. But my curiosity got to me. I checked it out and it is a rated G virtual world coming out in September. I looked at it then I wrote them. I don’t like rated G environments. I like realistic ones. That is why I am glad we are booting out the children because I don’t like to be in a romper room world. Here is what I wrote them:


    I just found your virtual environments website tonight. Someone mentioned it on CEO’s blog. So I went to see
    what it was. I read a little on it and I see that I like the buggies. They look good. But it has too many restrictions and it is
    rated G. And you even spoke of the clothing being a certain way like not provocative. So It sounds like it is not very realistic
    in anyway. In real life girls can wear short shorts or skirts. Wear tube tops and look sexy. A man can walk around with
    no shirt on. We are a sexy world. Also you can hang around a group of people that wear suits and ties. A woman wearing a
    full length dress. Great. We have our choice in life. Just like in your environment you should have a choice to wear something
    very cute and sexy or conservative. And in fact when we go back to our avatar homes we should be able to take our avatars
    clothes off and take a shower. Make love to our avatar wife. Honest and true in love. But in your world you are making it out
    of some fake rated G children’s environment. That won’t fly in my opinion. For one thing those rated G babies don’t have a
    dime to their names and won’t pay the 9.95 a month. So you missed the boat with me. I am sorry you had a chance but
    you haven’t got a chance at me as a virtual world enthusiast.

    So here is the score:’s world’s Positives and Negatives:

    attributes: Nice scenic value, Cool looking buggies

    negatives: Too restrictive, won’t allow the avatars to express themselves as in real life. A feeling of being controlled and
    under the watch of big brother, no sexy clothing.

    So you lose my vote being a male that is 44 years old. But it isn’t too late. You don’t have to allow rated X porno things
    in your environment but you also don’t have to restrict clothing to a librarian’s clothing style. That won’t fly

    Thanks a lot,

    • #258 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 5:15 am

      Ok, seriously, you should post your reviews of other sites on the site, not here. I know that the folks from YowNow spend a lot of time reading the comments, etc, here (even though they’re coming in all stealth helicopterish and all), but you can’t count on them seeing your review here. You should post it over there, not here. Thanks.

      • #259 by JS on 2011.05.24 - 7:52 am

        I was just mentioning it to you. You just shouldn’t have accepted it to be published. I would be fine with that. Go ahead and delete it.

      • #260 by on 2011.05.24 - 8:15 am

        BanNow might have some competition soon. My imaginary friend told me that a new virtual world is coming called Puritan Online. Basically, the female avatars, called Arabellas, won’t be allowed to have voice and they won’t be allowed to leave the virtual kitchen unless they are going to virtual church. Also, the female avatars won’t be allowed to wear clothing that reveals anything above the ankle.

        The male avatars, called Jebediahs, will have more control than the female avatars. They will even have a feature that will allow them to mute a female avatar if she dares to type when she should be cooking or praying. Male avatars are allowed to do the /frown emote and the /discipline emote as well as the /mute disobedient wife emote mentioned above.

        Transportation in Puritan Online will be horse drawn buggies. You get a free horse when you attend seven virtual church meetings. Attend fifty church meetings and you become part of the elite First Holy where you can look down your long nose at those less holy folks who don’t pray and serve God enough.

        If you thought BanNow’s policies were strict, ha you haven’t seen anything yet. In order to join Puritan Online you have to fax CEO William Bradford your ID and a letter from your church stating that you attend church all the time. That is their plan to cut down on griefers. They also plan to publicly flog avatars who break the rules. Aldo, if your avatar doesn’t attend virtual church often enough it may be flogged. Other things that can get your avatar flogged are; being a woman and wearing revealing clothing that shows anything above her ankle, being a woman and stating your opinion, talking about rival site Amish World(a virtual world that users create by drawing ‘avatars’ onto dirt). Basically, anything fun will get you flogged.

        Puritan Online will likely be the best virtual world ever since they have hired the people from the movie Avatar to create their world. Also, every person who was super talented in other virtual worlds have been hired to create things that they cannot profit from and will be payed nothing at all for it. The rating is Super Duper G (psst, the G stands for God, praise him or be flogged!)

        And yes, I am nuts.

      • #261 by EvenStupider on 2011.05.24 - 5:42 pm

        “they’re coming in all stealth helicopterish and all” Is there a worldly event that doesn’t get by you? I see you quote things from newspapers on a near day to day rofl

      • #262 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 6:01 pm

        I’m almost as good as South Park that way.

        ..not that that was ever uh, a goal of mine.

  106. #263 by softNdark on 2011.05.23 - 9:03 pm

    Very excited about “There” re-opening!!!! I’ve miss my 2 dogs, smiles.
    Thank You

  107. #264 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.23 - 8:35 pm

    I have a question.. What IF there are -18 playing in the game even if it is 18+ game how does it affect anyone

    • #265 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 4:31 am

      Sine they’ll be turned to stone and left where they are, the world will start to look like Medusa’s garden.

      • #266 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.24 - 5:55 am

        It was a .serious question … and no .. yours was not a serious answer 🙂

      • #267 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 6:59 am

        The serious answer is that they will affect other people, and, ultimately, they will be affected, so we’ll do our best to keep the population 18 and above. That means if someone who’s not 18 lies about their age and gets on, when we find out, we’ll ban that avatar, the credit card they used, and potentially their IP address and machine. So, think carefully.

      • #268 by mimi06 on 2011.05.24 - 8:31 am

        rofl.. sorry that WAS funny.. surely these here UNDER 18 see this.. (ya ya back to me cornor)

      • #269 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.06.13 - 2:59 pm

        Ohh let’s turn them into the old style ignores! and make them blind until they are really 18? I mean, There IS just that awesome….I couldn’t really blame a child too hard for wanting to play it!

    • #270 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.24 - 7:24 am

      And your point ‘simply’ was, very ‘complexed’? 😉

      • #271 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.25 - 7:17 pm

        it was just a name i used sounds creative ?

      • #272 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.25 - 7:28 pm

        Ah and you got banned from that site? welcome to the club

  108. #273 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.23 - 6:33 pm

    Please delete the comment is in the wrong area…ty

    • #274 by jimony on 2011.05.26 - 3:21 am

      I figured I would try to post a comment below your request so he could have a comment below to delete. 🙂

      • #275 by toufovou on 2011.05.26 - 4:37 am


      • #276 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.26 - 5:07 am

        He won’t delete

      • #277 by Cellophane on 2011.05.26 - 12:02 pm

        So many comments about money… If developers decide not to return because they cannot make an immediate buck it won’t break my heart; others will move in and fill their places with no expectations of a real life dollars and cents return; I would probably be one of these people. I want There to open. If this means keeping any money I put into the world and that money going on to pay the overhead, the staff and the Grand Green Genie of Uranus with no return to me so be it. You know what we Thereians say about all those other worlds.

        We want our back.

        Just open it already. 🙂


      • #278 by Knighthawk101 on 2011.05.27 - 2:31 am

        ‘clap ‘clap you’re absolutely right. While I am no great developer or anything like that, my wife (Ravenmagic) and I had started to get into working with clothing and buggies and bikes, things like that simply for the fun of being able to do it and to use those things on “There”. I have to admit a certain satisfaction though when someone else bought something we had made, but dang, what fun. And never an expectation to make RL money, Why in the world would I ruin a wonderful way to relax and unwind from a hard day at work by making another job?

      • #279 by Winston on 2011.05.27 - 4:35 am

        Well said, Cellophane. I would miss some of the designers who might decide they don’t want to come back but that would just open the door to new designs and new artists. A new generation of designers.

      • #280 by NigelBlackthorne on 2011.05.27 - 11:15 am

        I was a builder for a few years in There and I did get a great deal of satisfaction creating things that people thought enough to spend actual money on. It was fun to roam around there and see how people were using my creations. I will be back in There and will relist my designs and may make other things…the fact that in the past I could cash in Tbux was a bonus…I didn’t make big money but it was nice to see that my efforts did generate something tangible. What I think people have to realize is just how much time and effort there is in making things for There…it is a complicated process and if there isn’t some sort of potential reward than it will have an effect on how much creative effort is put forth by the builders. If you are spending many hours of time in 3DS Max…hours you could spend in world or doing other things, it’s nice to have something to show for your time.

      • #281 by ARTIE on 2011.05.27 - 5:03 pm

        Nigel, that makes sense, and if you read all this blog, I think you will find MW saying, YES but not right away. First, a stable business model needs to be established. Then investors can be enticed to invest in more creativity and designers will be offered more opportunity. But this might take awhile to work out all the bugs on the new platform of cloud computing servers, and having the world pay for itself without invertor subsities. Obviously, the more of us that come back and pay monthly fees, the more likely that this will move along at a quick pace.

      • #282 by Marianne Mohr on 2011.05.28 - 4:23 am

        From my experience, the products of the THERE developers did add value to the world. Their crafts induced people to spend tbux which benefited Makena. As Artie said, MW’s response was “yes, but not immediately” I believe. I can attest to the level of effort required as Nigel patiently taught me how to produce a very simple product. I do hope Makena can create a system where they can avoid the 3rd party tbux sellers while providing RL cash back to developers.

      • #283 by SassyBeMe on 2011.05.28 - 5:29 pm

        I would hope any developer would be happy to keep the house going by selling back to the house. I sure wouldn’t risk a band of an account I’m paying monthly for. Its the auction resellers I would think be harder to deal with. Thank goodness for sell transaction records. 🙂

      • #284 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 1:43 pm

        I am sure reselling items in auction is not what was meant by not allowing reselling. The reselling of Tbucks by 3rd party resellers will no longer be allowed. was paid by the auctions so why would they not allow that anymore? Considering MW came from eBay, that was probably his baby.

      • #285 by Esky on 2011.05.30 - 4:40 pm

        Can someone please tell me where Michael Wilson has stated that auction resellers will be outlawed in There? I’ve only seen explicit references to TBux resellers, but I keep hearing people say that it applies to auction resellers too…

      • #286 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.30 - 5:00 pm

        I never said that. Only T$ resellers will be forbidden.

        By the way, we don’t intended to police resales either. I know that people have wanted us to pursue overpriced resales, but, frankly, I’m a big believer in the free market system. And, now that the world is 18+, no one can complain about people taking advantage of minors.

      • #287 by Esky on 2011.05.30 - 5:38 pm

        Thanks very much MW for clarifying that.

      • #288 by Ovni on 2011.06.17 - 11:20 pm

        Hi you all.. MW i have some comments about LIMITED items.. it was a full scam by some bad designers who stated in the item description clearly saying as sample.. Limited to 20 and days later you could find out same designer had 35 more for sale in auction,i think its time to start with a new system in which the designer can not build any more products than what he has stated in the Item description. It can be done by a tag to choce how many Limited items you want to produce and after the total is made it should be auto deleted those pictures and templates sent by the designer,so it can not be used again. Any solution ,as long Limited items are Limited to the ammount ONLY stated in the item description. I do collect bugies and i had to sale many cars at 1 tbuck because designer after 1 week, 2 or 4 years re-do them again,and my collection of those passed to be trash and a joke of some when they said to me… they just have that 3 years old car back in auction : ( i love to return but i do not remember all my avatars names, much less the passwords or emails,i wish you can jump in the track system used before and find my loggins with different avatars so i get the oportunity to get my things back from all the other avatars,i have too many things to just get a new account and not have my 2 race tracks,a museum zone,over 2000 buggies, yea i misss my buggies special the error ones : ) and yes only point for me to start is the name ” ovni ” at least i remember this name,but not the pass 😦 and yes the email for ovni avatar still alive ,lucky me. My wish is…to get all my accounts back, and kill them after a transfer of items if the rules mention only one avatar per person,which honestly its imposible to have tons of things in one avatar,too laggy and maybe 30 minutes to download all the things each time i log in… we choce to have more accounts because it was realy heavy wait in one avatar, i like to sugest this time,,,, please if we use or can use more than one account.. please all acounts only to one Email,its handy to get informed and easy to get contacted by There if its a need. Thansk alot. ovni

      • #289 by dakotaman on 2011.05.31 - 12:40 am

        Good to hear! Time to get the weekly There Flea Markets going again……


      • #290 by AnOldDeveloper on 2011.05.31 - 6:30 am

        I posted up above by accident, when I meant to reply to this post.

        I asked about T$ buy back program and reminded people that developers put in many hours to create fresh content for There.
        I sincerely hope there will be some sort of incentive for us (developers) to return. I devved for There for over half a decade and contributed a LOT of content.
        I’d like to do that again but there needs to be a monetary incentive.

        I hope that my post does not get lost up there. It’s kinda long but can be found if you search for AnOldDeveloper 🙂

      • #291 by Greenie on 2011.05.31 - 8:45 am

        Would you consider putting the seller’s/auctioner’s purchase price on the auction page so people will at least know what the purchase price _was_ when the seller bought it? Especially on the shop items, as when we are auction shopping we can search auctions to find the prices auction items have sold for, but auction searches did not provide information on shop items. This is where I saw the worst auction fraud. People would claim “RARE” and sell shop items at extremely high prices when they were still selling in shop for mere hundreds of tbux and we had no way to check on the items. At the very least, perhaps the ability to search the shop items the same way we can search auction items?

      • #292 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.29 - 9:02 am

        you mean like sl does or somethin :)?

      • #293 by Jill Rick on 2011.06.03 - 5:40 am


    • #294 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.26 - 6:27 am

      hahaha This is screwed up then LOL Not your Blog MW, but the fact there is my request for delete here…and it’s still here LOL ..and now friends are commenting …hahaha
      >>>>>>>>>> ok carry on!

    • #295 by Winston on 2011.05.27 - 4:37 am

      Please don’t delete this comment as I am commenting on the comment above.

    • #296 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 5:55 pm

      Goodness what a mess you’v created here young lady. We’ll have to think of a punishment for this.

  109. #297 by BABS on 2011.05.23 - 6:30 pm

    ”’yay.soooo excited! and so thankful.

    Oh and…
    ‘wave @ ltbigdog

  110. #298 by HoverboatPilot on 2011.05.23 - 3:07 pm

    I can’t believe no one else caught this…

    “1. Go through the sign-up process.
    2. Pay the subscription fee.
    3. Claim your old avatar name(s)
    4. Log into ThereIm.
    5. Request restoration of your inventory. It should arrive in a day or so.

    Please note, Item #1 is PAY THE SUBSCRIPTION FEE (of course you can always cancel later, subject to some refund policy). We will be working on a way to gift subscriptions to other folks. ”

    Uhh, item one is “Go through the sign-up process.”

    😀 hehe, don’t hurt me!

    • #299 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.23 - 6:46 pm

      Of course I caught this, but no big deal! LOL are you afraid of having to go through red tape ? 😉

      • #300 by jimony on 2011.05.24 - 2:46 am

        LOL! I caught that also, figured it was just a typo. They will be pretty much the same step, I am sure. You won’t be able to sign up without paying. I will sign up for the ThereIM and hope the world will follow shortly.
        I long to drive my vehicles again, but just seeing my avatar in a groupchat will make me ecstatic, too!

    • #301 by Esky on 2011.05.23 - 9:48 pm

      Yeah, noticed that too and thought… ‘shrug

  111. #302 by Kev on 2011.05.23 - 3:06 pm

    Hey MW, would there be any way to reset our login passwords like any other website, or send the login details to the email address associated to
    the account? That would be a big relief to many of us who have a short memory.

  112. #303 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 2:32 pm

    For those people asking about bans being removed, alternate methods of paying or proving age and other types of exceptions to be considered; I think these things are best asked in private. If you try to force a decision publically, it will most likely be denied, as everyone will use that exception as ammunition for one of their own.
    If there truly is a good reason to provide you an exception to any rules, it is most likely best to deal with that issue privately between you and
    And then keep the response private so as not to taint any one elses chances for any positive replies.
    Allow MW the opportunity to consider your situation individually and not force him to make a decision that he won’t be able to circumvent later.

    • #304 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 2:36 pm

      My guess is even the private requests will be set aside or denied at least until There opens, so it is probably best to let them open first.

    • #305 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.23 - 3:11 pm

      Good suggestion but I think they should be allowed to try and “beat down” Mr. Wilson by asking the same question over and over and over. Eventually he will get sick of listening to their whining and just say NO to all of them.
      What they are doing is showing their true personality. Like little kids in the back seat saying over and over “ARE WE THERE YET”!

      • #306 by Summers on 2011.05.24 - 2:09 pm

        Hey Ken,
        are we there yet?

      • #307 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.25 - 3:38 pm

        Too Funny Summers,
        Not quite yet but SOON we will be.
        Now go to your room until the end of June .. NO TV!! OR COMPUTER !!

  113. #308 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.23 - 2:29 pm

    im from the UK and i hope that I can play which should be fine 🙂 im willing to scan my passport and drivers provisional if i need to . 🙂 im 100% me and always will be 😀

  114. #309 by tessjthere on 2011.05.23 - 1:52 pm


    I am thrilled with the idea of roaming the hills of There again. I think it is funny that a couple of weeks ago this was just a tantalizing dream for everyone and now everyone is already concerned with Paz placement, getting stuff back, etc? HA! I don’t give a rat’s…I’m just thrilled with the thoughts of being able to be THERE again in ANY capacity!

    Hugs and thanks so much!


  115. #310 by EvenStupider on 2011.05.23 - 1:32 pm

    “We have not considered unbanning anyone at this time.”

    Seems fair. Is it part of your agenda to consider this particular issue before ThereIM? or is discussion on this matter a ‘maybe sometime in the future’ sort of thing.

  116. #311 by VoniLei on 2011.05.23 - 12:50 pm

    Well, well. Seems like I just joined the club! My positive comments on this blog regarding There and Michael Wilson have earned me an IP ban from I have never posted a bad word about them using this name or any other that people know me by (tho I’m sure MW knew the pseudonym I used while posting to this blog) so they had no reason to ban me. And it’s not just any ban, folks. It’s an ACCESS FORBIDDEN IP ban.

    I feel so special 😀

    • #312 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 1:36 pm

      Most of the people banned from YowNow are the ones most respected elsewhere. They are the people I would want to support any ventures.

      • #313 by RRTT on 2011.05.23 - 4:18 pm

        I managed to get banned from Yow Now too. Could have been my activity on this blog, they didn’t specify a reason. I probly would have payed to check out their world too.

      • #314 by jimony on 2011.05.24 - 2:39 am

        They even banned Coolnet! Everybody loves Coolnet! You KNOW Coolnet wouldn’t have committed a bannable offense. But then, I guess none of us did. Possibly, technically, since I was banned from Vonira and not YowNow, I may not be banned. But I would be willing to bet, if I registered, I would be denied. But I have no interest in being included in a place that doesn’t include all the great people they banned. You can rest assured, if you see “jimony” or any variation of that name there, it won’t be me.

      • #315 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.24 - 12:18 pm

        Let’s talk about other things besides YowNow. YowNow is a joke, if they think they can create a virtual world, I would love to laugh at their face. They have no clue the complexity it is to create a world. Let’s all focus on making There a place where everyone can come and have a great time. I wish YowNow or FakeNow good luck. If they think they could handle the big companies, they are sadly mistaken.

        I will wait until There reopens. I am very excited and I can’t wait to see what changes Michael Wilson has made since it was closed.

      • #316 by RRTT on 2011.05.25 - 1:36 pm

        Update: I got an email saying I was banned by “accident” and now have been un-banned (from YN)… ‘whatever

    • #317 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.24 - 1:48 pm

      me too, but if they keep this up, they’re not going to be in business anyway.

    • #318 by Deleight on 2011.05.26 - 9:29 am

      I too was banned from YowNow… briefly, but wha? I never posted once to their forums or anything.. they call it an error… whatever

  117. #319 by JS on 2011.05.23 - 11:45 am

    The number one priority is getting this business model up and running and profiting. Who cares about the lousy griefers for now. Get the UGC thing going. I guess that mans game card. So what if some clown comes in just to barrel into you with his buggy. So what. You put the clown on ignore and you move on. This is the real world and not Church town USA where everybody sits with their legs crossed and worry’s about being a saint. We can take it. As long as some drugged out loser comes in with sexually harassing and raunchy comments stirring us up then we will be fine. When some punk does that yes I want to fight fire with fire and beat him down like a dirty little stepchild but that puts me at risk for getting kicked out. SL has their stalkers. I had some weirdo in there apparently getting off talking pretty sick from an instant IM. I then had to turn off the IM situation all together. I even got a visit from him on my own land out of the blue. Like I am here to haunt you. You can’t get away. Real sick person. It showed that SL has stalking scripts and even when I told them about that pig he still wasn’t booted. So SL dirties themselves up. Not to mention SL has a weird way to steal your money. I was on a certain teir level for under 30 days and they felt it justified to charge me for 3 months of that tier. Within their rules they felt it justified. But I finally got a few dollars back after begging. Well that puts a bad taste in my mouth over that company so they make their own bed. I have’nt been premium again after that. At any rate I would concern yourself with getting the place up and running and keeping the hardcore freaks out. But if we get into a scuffle on occassion don’t quickly boot people out because of it. There will be 18 and up and if there are arguments on occasion you can’t be banning people right and left. In fact go back through your bans from the past. If it wasn”t too bad then let them back in. Because they might be a nucleus for another 30 people coming in. If they are in their friend wants to come in and so on. Not to mention a lot of people set people up in There. They will provoke the hell out of them. Then they set them up with their recording device or documentation of some sort just to get them booted. Even though they said and did a lot of things prior to that happening. And don’t fall for some sob story from some girl that says Teddy was stalking someone when all they did was go to Cosmo like everybody else. So the girl goes he is following me all over when the truth is he is just going where the crowd is in Cosmo. So myself if I owned this environment I would just say put them on ignore. Don’t cut your own throat by booting everybody and their cousin for some cry baby that made a mountain out of a mole hill.

    And about that girl that complained about the ThereIM situation and paying full price for that then you came back with a seemingly harsh answer in her opinion. For customer relations reasons you may want to walk on eggshells with a gentler respons like No sorry it will be full price. Just wait a little longer. I hope to see you in There! She might have read your tone wrong. She felt you were being mean I think. You just don’t want to put a bad taste in a girl’s like that mouth like I have for SL with their cost of tiering up situation.

    About the free 50 portazone portazone I suggested that we get with the deal. You just said No. BOOM that was the answer I got. Then some guy replied that I got the backhand. So his interpretation was I was beat down. No hard feelings here. But my new suggested is a 10 drop portazone we can get free. Now you can say NO NO NO and I will be beat again. Fine. But let me say this. I think it is a very good idea. This will only make a person want more. Want more drops to put some more things out. There are many people that don’t use portazones at all so this will get them started with it. You might have to create a special portazone with the free unlimited 10 drop that maybe is only good for 8 hours out unless you press the upgrade to a 20, 30, or 50 drop then it will be out as long as they want because they are paying tbucks. Do what you want to do though. It doesn’t bother me. I own my own portazones with plenty of time on them that I paid for in the past. I am sure all my time is still on them unless you guys messed it up during the shutdown. I hope not.

    Okay take care. Thanks for keeping this page up so we can rattle on a little. You have never had more activity on your blog. It makes it interesting.

    Far Northern CA

  118. #320 by Unknown on 2011.05.23 - 11:11 am

    Kevin it takes alot of money to make the world Under 18, because then MW has to get people to babysit the Under 18s..And its cheaper to go with 18+…Yes it may be dissapointing but its not the end of the world…But Hey look on the bright side soon you will be able to play depending on how old you are now…Anyhooo ~ Thumbs up to MW ~

    • #321 by Esky on 2011.05.23 - 1:00 pm

      Ha!! Yes, MW has to babysit them all personally, LOL! Let’s hope they don’t have paintguns… 😀

    • #322 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.06.13 - 2:53 pm

      Not really that he “has to get” people to babysit minors…there are many many games that have filters etc set up, or account tethers so that the parent account is responsible for the online bahavior of the minor account, and so on. But so many people don’t want that responsibility, so many people don’t want chat filters. There is no law saying he’s in charge of what someone else’s kids do online from their own homes, using bandwith their parents have paid for access to…He’s just refusing to take on someone else’s responsibility.

      And he could have gone the other way, too. When you buy an M game at your local retailer, they check your ID to make sure you’re old enough to buy it, right? If you’re buying it for a kid, well, they assume that you are taking full responsibility for whatever mental problems that kid might get from playing an M game when he wasn’t 18 yet. That’s all fine and dandy when you are dealing with people face to face, and the cashier can tell Granny; “You know that game is rated Mature for sexual situations, blood and violence, right?” and then Granny can decide whether to buy it for her 8 year old grandson or not, and get her ID swiped to prove her agreement.

      But when it’s an online transaction, who’s to say that Granny really did okay the TOS? Sure, there are some great family applications to There, years ago, my own family used to use it when my husband was deployed, so my young kids could still play with Daddy. My youngest is 11 now, we always told her that when she was 13, she would be able to get a There account…we never told her when There closed last year. Now, we tell her it changed, she has to wait until she is 18, because they are letting more adults in that don’t use nice language. MY decision, MY responsibility. I hope that down the line, a sort of There Lite will open, that is more teen friendly, but in the meantime, there are games like FreeRealms.

      No one planned on There closing, but it did. No one expected it to reopen, but we hoped. The future might someday hold something for minors, you just never know. One step at a time, okay?

  119. #323 by Stephen Mol on 2011.05.23 - 11:02 am

    I would like to know something. Say I want to play for a while, then cancel for a bit, if I wanted to come back, could I still use the same account and have my inventory?

    • #324 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.23 - 1:29 pm

      Yes, probably!

      • #325 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 2:20 pm

        This is indeed good news, as people may fall on hard times.

      • #326 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.23 - 2:33 pm

        I’m hoping the “Gift” option will be popular. 🙂

      • #327 by Stephen Mol on 2011.05.25 - 3:57 pm

        OK thank you so much. Sometimes I like to start and stop playing things every now and then.

      • #328 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.06.13 - 2:36 pm

        perhaps you could even set up something like the cell phone companies do, where you can suspend your account for a time, so that knows you aren’t just a non-payer. I don’t know whether it would matter to just have an on/off suspend, or whether it would work better to have “suspend my account for:” ‘2 weeks’ ‘1 month’ ‘2 months’ ‘4months’ ‘6months’ ‘until I reactivate’ and you have to click an option. Because as we all know, stuff happens, and we have to walk away for a time, whether we want to or not, but we always mean to come back.

  120. #329 by tamara on 2011.05.23 - 10:14 am

    In regards to the use of UGC’s. I see where you state that it was not considered to be a means by which individuals can sign up as to prevent griefers? To be frank there is a bigger picture here, not everyone that plays lives in the USA or even have access to an international credit card. I live in Jamaica and the only way I became a premi was through the use of the UGC. So what is the solution you have Mr. Wilson for those over 18 players that dont have credit cards and live outside the USA? Also Paypal does not work for us caribbean people either. So my only way to get on is through the use of UGC’s. and im sure many more individuals are out there in the same situation as I am. Awaiting a response.Thanks.

    • #330 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.23 - 10:40 am

      I don’t know. Given the issues, what do you suggest?

      • #331 by toufovou on 2011.05.23 - 11:47 am

        Real life proof that someone is over 18. ID card perhaps or drivers license or something else. The account will be approved in the next few days since there might be so many of them.

      • #332 by Rick caldas on 2011.05.23 - 12:23 pm

        i guess just allow UGC for only people outside the US?

      • #333 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.23 - 12:38 pm

        So of our worst offenders and permanent ex-members came from England. That won’t solve it :-(. Sorry.

      • #334 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 12:27 pm

        They could make a trip and sign up in person to verify their identity?

      • #335 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.23 - 1:18 pm

        How about making it avalible for people outside the US AND the UK? Places like the US and the UK are the ones who have it easiest in terms of international payment methods, and you say some of the worst griefers are from those countries… So just canceliing those out.

      • #336 by Tamara on 2011.05.23 - 7:07 pm

        You could tie in the use of UGC’s with proof of age Mr. Wilson. I was playing there for over a year being a basic member. Had lots of friends but the ‘gift’ of being a premi was not offered to me,It wasnt until i discovered the use of the game cards I launched out so to speak so this is why I am sort of defending it to be used somewhat. I respect you not wanting to open it up so griefers can have easy access to the site but I am sure the pros will out way the cons eventually.

      • #337 by SassyBeMe on 2011.05.23 - 9:11 pm

        I know this takes longer.. But can they not mail a check or money order of some sort available to them?

      • #338 by martin71 on 2011.05.24 - 1:17 am

        they was some very good payers in uk to be on and willing to pay again just be on there with there freinds and loved ones

    • #339 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.23 - 11:33 am

      Wow that sux do they have walmarts or walgreens in Jamaica? if so you can get Debit cards there or try www. /getitnow or try or i hope you can get one where your at good luck.

    • #340 by Winston on 2011.05.23 - 12:44 pm

      There’s pre-paid credit cards. You pre-load them with money from your account and then when the money is gone you can reload it. I’m not sure what your situation is in Jamaica. Is it just that your bank doesn’t issue debit cards? According to PayPal’s website it works in Jamaica.

      “Send and receive payments in these countries. Withdraw from your PayPal account to a U.S. bank account or request a check from PayPal. In addition, withdraw to a credit, debit, or prepaid card in countries marked with a (+).”

    • #341 by Cassi on 2011.05.24 - 1:17 pm

      I’m a USA citizen, living in the UK so I can’t honestly say I’ve had any issues getting or registering a paypal account, but I’ve just been to the paypal website and there are A LOT of countries now able to get paypal accounts. Jamaica is ONE of them. If you are over 18, by the looks of it you CAN get a paypal account but you will need to use preplanning to use it efficiently as getting funds into it and out of it will take time. Paypal is probably one of the best options (depending on how much it will cost MW per transaction to use) for a payment option as paypal itself will accept many forms of credit/debit cards and there is NO need to be a paypal user (its just an advantage to have an account). I think its a cop-out by the under 18 groupies to want the UGCs as payment options. It’s standard in MOST countries to have a credit card logo on your bank cards, and if its not standard it is fairly easy and usually free to request one. (ie: I have no credit and no credit cards, but I DO have a VISA card, its a visa/debit card, ie i can’t spend what I don’t have. lol).

      My only question to MW is this… because I don’t know how the TOS will read, or how it will work… but on Xbox a CC is required to basically approve an account for online access, (ie: to cofirm that a user has been approved by someone 18+ to use it), how will you work it out if a member is signed up by someone with a credit card (ie: parent/friend etc.) but is found to be 15? Will it be permitted since the account was signed up by an 18+ credit card, or will the account be banned?

      I don’t recall seeing the question or answer, but if it IS there, I do apologize for repetiveness.

      • #342 by jimony on 2011.05.30 - 12:50 pm

        He has stated not only that account, but all accounts associated with that CC will be banned. It is best that they just watch over your shoulder, if you like, and wait till they are 18. Keep in mind, language will not be restricted, so you may not want your young ones watching while in public locations. Unless you’re really quick with ‘hands-to-ears.

  121. #343 by JS on 2011.05.23 - 9:57 am

    There was a woman that asked about if she has to pay for signing up with just the ThereIM going and that is it. Then you replied and mentioned about paying your employees and everything. She then came back with something like you got up on the wrong side of the bed and it was just a simple question. You are right she can just sign up later. That is what I will do. I am going to wait for the world to be up and running. I really don’t have any friends in There because I was basically a loner other than having one girlfriend that was in with me. So there is no need to beg borrow and steal to get into the IM thing I never even used before. Sure it is nice for us to help with the roll out costs of There but it truly won’t be worth it until the place is fully operable. Maybe you could charge 5.00 for the initial month when it is just ThereIM. So anytime you sign up before it is truly up and running you get a discount. Then after it is fully functional we get the 10.00 fee. Do what you want. It doesn’t matter to me. I am sure There will be ready to go in July. See you then.

  122. #344 by martin71 on 2011.05.23 - 9:27 am

    hi mw so ower funzones stay as the same owner as before i hope but that wont stop me still got my buggy burning rubber

    we could do with a welcome back party at the cosmo beach and a big thank you to MW for saving ower things and bringin us all back home
    if it wasnt for i would not have met kazza123 and we are still going strong.

    thank you MW

    • #345 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 9:43 pm

      It’s our. Similar to your.

  123. #346 by That Guy on 2011.05.23 - 8:56 am

    Good question matthew lol.

  124. #347 by mimi06 on 2011.05.23 - 8:10 am

    gee, the first time in my life (and thats a long time) I think I just got banned from a world.. rofl.. cant wait to tell my grandkids.. so as it goes, even if you make NO comments about certain places and your just part of the fixture as I was for many months, hardely breathing nor typing.. this is what you get for logging in and wanting to just read forums,as I have done in the past.. interesting customer relations they have eh? ” Forbidden
    You don’t have permission to access / on this server

    Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request”.
    I am assuming that means I was banned. Never have been banned anywhere so not sure, and I also tried several ways to access my acct there.. I am sure you all know WHERE I mean.. lol.. no worries.. Its a SMALL world after all.. I can wait.. 🙂 any of you YOWNOW people care to explain? I know your lurking here..

    • #348 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.23 - 11:05 am

      Welcome to the club mimi. lol

    • #349 by Esky on 2011.05.23 - 12:11 pm

      OMG, I can’t believe this! Me too! I’ve never been banned from anything… I haven’t posted any anti-YN comments anywhere, but I’ve been banned from the YN forums! I’m absolutely stunned… just floored.

      The standard message:
      “You have been banned for the following reason:
      No reason was specified.
      Date the ban will be lifted: Never”

      Incredible… Oh well, moving on…

    • #350 by Dolphin on 2011.05.23 - 12:26 pm

      mimi i got this one before ROFL I have only posted in there once…like you I only went in to read the forums…must have seen my posts on FB and Thumdar LOL. Oh well,it’s not the end of the world..well maybe it is for YowCow since the world will NEVER open LOOL. But I have now joined the “elite” club woooohoooo 😀

      You have been banned for the following reason:
      No reason was specified.
      Date the ban will be lifted: Never

    • #351 by Orielle on 2011.05.23 - 2:35 pm

      Congrats all. Welcome to the club…

    • #352 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.23 - 6:34 pm

      ok…here goes! I registered along time ago, but recently registered…I wanted to read the forums..and then found some friends I have know..One very close friend that is staff…We and some others went into the chat area 2 days ago, and we actually had a blast and alot of fun….After reading here, I go to log in… Banned!
      I will get to the bottom of this…I have contacted them and told them my good friend on the staff…I want to know WHY I and others that only read posts..are banned…I mean, if you look at it…I might have wanted to go to more than one 3d game area to play…I go to Second Life and I will go to There…I do not think there is a law stating that we are suppose to only go to one 3d game area to play games..Totally preposterous !!!!!

    • #353 by Zip on 2011.05.24 - 7:37 am

      Yaaay!!!! I got banned too, Mimi lol They’re all freakin’ idiots over there! I’m proud to be a member of this club 😀

      • #354 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.24 - 10:46 am

        Lmao 😛

    • #355 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.24 - 3:35 pm

      HOORAY Mimi, I knew you could do it…..See… All it took was a little patience and a few nice words about…. Welcome to the Club. ‘clap’clap’clap

    • #356 by Cellophane on 2011.05.26 - 11:41 am

      I did! And I cannot wait to have another! And to roam! I was counting down to an upcoming family vacation- but I am now also waiting like it’s Christmas and I am 8 years old for There to re-open! And thank you for the compliment… Amazing what those incredible designers permitted us to realize in our Hoods!

      • #357 by NathanAvis on 2011.05.27 - 6:00 am

        Here’s one for you guys – I recently got an email from YowNow with the subject line as “Our Humble Apologies”. I figured they were probably gonna add me to the green names list and hit me with a 40 tonne banhammer because I post here. But THIS is what I got.

        Hillarious because a) when I tried to make an account I was instantly banned and not even informed if I was successful in making it or not, and b) I’ve never heard of them unbanning people, ever! Especially people that were apparently not registered with them!


        Dear NathanAvis,

        You have received a new private message at Your Other World – Community Forums from YOWNOW Administrator, entitled “Our profound apologies”.

        To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:

        This is the message that was sent:
        Due to an error, your account was accidentally banned.
        Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience.
        We are happy you have decided to make YowNow a part of your metaverse experience and we look forward to seeing your posts on the forums.
        Please remember to abide by the community guidelines.

        Again, please do not reply to this email. You must go to the following page to reply to this private message:

        All the best,
        Your Other World – Community Forums

  125. #358 by matthew_1057 on 2011.05.23 - 5:54 am

    MW, is the website going to be updated soon?

  126. #359 by Cellophane on 2011.05.23 - 5:50 am

    I am so happy to find There will be re-opening! 🙂 The best-est surprise I never thought I’d have! 😀

    • #360 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.24 - 1:43 pm

      @ Cellophane, Did you have a Island off Aurora? If so, it was beautiful.

      • #361 by Bronnieb59 on 2011.05.25 - 6:03 am

        Just reading through the comments today and saw this post by SaltySilver…I too, Cellophane, loved your island, and the detail involved! …from dirty laundry …to the kids socks and schoolbags lying around the house…this is the part of that I sooo enjoyed…decorating and exploring other peoples islands and neighbourhoods…..(and a thousand other things)….I loved being able to spend hours travelling around without worrying about rezzing the environment…. which I have never had duplicated on other VW’s. My heart lies with and cannot wait for my return…. home 🙂

      • #362 by Cellophane on 2011.05.26 - 11:42 am

        Yes I did. I was just commenting below that it was such an incredible pleasure to decorate with all the wonderful items offered by the designers of There… Just cannot wait to get back in There! and thank you also for the compliment 🙂

  127. #363 by Drifa on 2011.05.23 - 5:24 am

    Yayyy i cant wait till There2 opens so bad that ima buy the IM lmao as soon as it opens! ‘patch ‘ha

  128. #364 by Kevin on 2011.05.23 - 5:20 am

    must b over 18? so that everyone who plays have to pay money? cool way of makin money.

    • #365 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.23 - 2:52 pm

      Indeed it is Kevin, look how much money WOW is making !!

  129. #366 by KayleighLace on 2011.05.23 - 5:04 am

    Oh, I’m so very excited you are coming back!!! This is the best news 😀

  130. #367 by maverickfred on 2011.05.22 - 8:12 pm

    Ya i will get my gear back lol gee i hope this comes off i was a dedecated thereean for over 5 years i miss my friends but most off them ive kept in touch whith on facebook .

  131. #368 by HighFlier on 2011.05.22 - 6:46 pm

    I doubt Coca Cola minds if There continues to have their logo on items in the world. Those items were already approved for use in There anyway. Also those are products we purchased, It’s not really up to them as we purchased and own those virtual goods with their logo in our inventories which cost all of us real money to get the points to own those virtual products. Why in world wouldn’t they want us all driving around in our coke buggy’s advertising their product? Besides Therians are HUGE coke fans and many were influenced by There to buy coke so their advertising worked very well in There. During the last run of There my own family purchased tons of Coca Cola product way more than we usually would in order to purchase the virtual items in world with the Coca Cola logo. I hope they become very active in There again when it re opens for it’s next phase. Also these days we drink almost only Coke Zero due to the cals and I love that product. I have friends and neighbors hooked on it too. Even started a Coke Zero can collection of some odd cans we’ve received. I have spent all my coke points on some boring snappish photo coffee mugs and have only a few points built up now. Coke and There together I thought was super cool. I know someone else who drinks coke and I have the solid proof. I hope this is not giving away his in world hiding place though.

    • #369 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 8:18 pm

      As Mister Wilson. a true visionary, looks up towards the sky, he contemplates a better tomorrow, he is a real Therian at heart 😉 As he takes another sip of his coca-cola, his thoughts wander towards all those Therians asking him billions of questions ~ ‘sigh’ 😉

  132. #370 by movieman14 on 2011.05.22 - 5:22 pm

    Well…despite several negative factors with there2 all is well mw thanks to your reference to the best movie of all time 😉 (jurassic park). I will be looking foward to POSSIBLY trying there2 in the future 😀

    • #371 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 5:46 pm

      The best movie of all time was Fifth Element, or possibly Serenity. Jurassic Park WAS the best movie of all time until Dr. Horner told me (in person, mind you), that T-Rex was basically the hyena of it’s period, probably didn’t kill anything, and couldn’t run, because if it fell down it would probably break all it’s ribs and die. That was it for me.

      • #372 by dakotaman on 2011.05.22 - 9:14 pm

        Wow….two of my top 5 (Serenity, Fifth Element). Shame on Dr. Horner for ruining Jurassic Park for you. BTW, is There still going to have the ability to stream video on screens?? Be kinda cool to have an outdoor drive-in theatre….

      • #373 by Marianne Mohr on 2011.05.23 - 4:15 am

        I agree 5th Element best… but Ice Age Meltdown in CGI genre ranks purdy high too! Great info on TRex!

      • #374 by Winston on 2011.05.23 - 5:10 am

        “The 5th Element?” Geesh…if you want to hit Sci-fi then nothing touches “Starship Troopers.” No giant bug movie in the history of cinema better captures the struggle of man vs. giant insects better. “The Fly?” film school folderol. “The Deadly Mantis?” Utter. Crap. “Them?” Ha! “Starship Troopers” owns all! And I for one welcome our new insect overlords 😉

      • #375 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.23 - 5:25 am

        No, NO, NO WAY!!!!

        Blazing Saddles is the best of all time.

        Maybe not politically correct today but sure as hell was hysterical.

      • #376 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 6:05 am

        My favorite movie is always the one I want to see but haven’t had the chance yet.
        Even the best ones in my opinion are boring for me to watch twice in a short amount of time.
        I have a feeling, though, that Cowboys and Aliens will be my favorite.

      • #377 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.23 - 6:08 am

        Right now i`d have ta say Fast Five only because iam a Hot Rod Nut lol and i love fast cars 😛 but on the other hand theres just been to many good movies made up to today.

      • #378 by Winston on 2011.05.23 - 7:12 am

        “probably didn’t kill anything, and couldn’t run, because if it fell down it would probably break all it’s ribs and die”

        You have to forgive Crichton for that. When he wrote JP and subsequently the screenplay for the movie he was going on the common perception of the time which was T-Rex was the largest predator to walk the earth. He briefly tried to address this issue in JP2 when the T-Rex ate the smarty-pants paleontologist after he argued for Rexy being a large vulture. In general, the largest whatevers in history have never been classic predators (by classic I mean they run down and tear up their prey ala velociraptor); The largest shark in the world is a filter feeder, the largest mammal in the world is a filter feeder, the largest land animal in the world is an herbivore, the largest bird eats mainly seeds and fruits and the largest birds of prey are scavengers. There are, of course, exceptions when it comes to reptiles and spiders but in general this usually applies. Man I must be bored today 🙂

      • #379 by Tiggy on 2011.05.23 - 11:14 am

        Altho it might not be the “best movie ever” my personal favorite is Quentin Tarantino’s “Kill Bill” .. both 1 and 2

      • #380 by GaryBob on 2011.05.23 - 2:45 pm

        This post is pure win. Both are in my top 5, though I typically rank Pleasantville as #1.

        PS: Miranda

      • #381 by movieman14 on 2011.05.24 - 3:45 am

        Oh it hurts >.< Well maybe we can chalk it up to fictional? 😉 Or artistic freedom 😛

    • #382 by spike on 2011.05.22 - 6:38 pm

      The Blues Brothers is the bset movie of all time in my honest opinion. LOL.

    • #383 by Winston on 2011.05.22 - 7:26 pm

      “Young Frankenstein” FTW!

      • #384 by Tiggy on 2011.05.23 - 11:16 am

        “History of the World, Part1”

        Madeline Kahn was awesome:
        “Yeeeeessss, no no no no no, Yeeeeeessss… no no no no .. waitaminute… YEEEEESSSS… OOOWHEEE!!!”

      • #385 by Winston on 2011.05.23 - 7:11 pm

        Ah yes. Madeline Kahn was one of my favorites.

        “Ahhhh…but the servant waits, while the master ….”

        Well you probably know the quote 😉

      • #386 by Tiggy on 2011.05.24 - 5:00 pm

        LMAO.. I definitely know how that goes…

        Josephus: (while pouring wine) “Say when…”

        Empress Nympho: “8:30” (wickedly grinning)

    • #387 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 8:11 pm

      Madame Doubtfire 😉

      • #388 by satarell on 2011.05.22 - 8:56 pm

        nope best movie of all time my neighbor totoro its a must see 🙂

    • #389 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.22 - 9:51 pm

      The best movie of all time?? By far is Tillie’s Punctured Romance. Then maybe Avatar and Titanic.

      My opinion anyways.

      • #390 by Winston on 2011.05.23 - 5:18 am

        Funny you would start with a largely unknown silent then follow up with two James Cameron blockbusters 🙂 I love Chaplin but “City Lights” is Sir Charles at his finest. My favorite silent is “Pandora’s Box.” A truly great film in any era 🙂

      • #391 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.23 - 5:27 am


        The best graphics ever!

        A predictable story line but once you were sucked in, you were done!

      • #392 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.23 - 6:14 am

        Ya Avater was pretty badass i seen it in 3d Imax.

      • #393 by jimony on 2011.05.23 - 12:20 pm

        Avatar had good graphic scenes and I liked the idea of the avatar being like a clone that you control but the plot itself was a complete copy of Ferngully.

  133. #394 by mimi06 on 2011.05.22 - 4:53 pm

    Being in the world I am now.. I Find it intersting to see so many UNDER 18 posting here rofl.. 🙂 you know who you are.. and you also know me.. be careful what you wish for 🙂 ( thats not a threat by the way, I dont work that way) just saying…. back to my cornor >>

    • #395 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 6:07 pm

      Mimi u so silly. lol

  134. #396 by Paz_Worryed on 2011.05.22 - 4:23 pm

    Mr. Wilson, you must guarantee us our old PAZ “special places” back!

    Hear me out!

    Look at the $$$, many of us spent nearly 5 to 7 years paying PAZ rent for the “those special places”! Some of us spent $200 to $400 some and some as much as $1000 month on the game. You really do need to “considering putting a moratorium on dropping PAZs” If you want big cash to come back into the game in a big way.

    You must guarantee us our old “special places” Paz locations!

    There are way to many bad players, flat-out evil players who want these areas to do harm!! Many which spent very little money on the game!

    Please Mr. Wilson, I strongly ask and beg you! Guarantee us our old “special places“. We spent so much money on them.

    If we lose our special places, many as I will be heartbroken and too sick to even thank of coming back to spend large sums of money. You will take the time to let owners reclaim their funzones, allow us the time reclaim our “special places”.

    Mr. Wilson over the span of 7 years. I spent a great deal of cash buying solely Tbucks from There. I don’t mind the, Pay to Play! In fact, I did not feel in any way hurt by me losing my investment in the game when There closed. Sad yes, from losing our world, lost stuff no!

    I mean really, all I am asking is a guarantee to come back to my home PAZs “special places” locations!

    I have cash, check, Pay Pal or credit card ready to spend!

    • #397 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 5:19 pm

      OMG!!! I agree with so much i also have alot of money in with a hood 8 or 9 pazes ( thats not just zephyr )and for a while part owner of alexes paintball zone then The Snipes owned it Thats not counting all the rare stuff i have, And i have alot. I like to buy rare stuff, So Plzzzzz Mw Give Us Our Spots Back and iam ready to Pay and Play Plus i`ll be paying for 2 maybe 3 avi`s.

      • #398 by NathanAvis on 2011.05.27 - 3:07 pm

        For the record I’m not a Zephyr person. And you should learn to take criticism better. At least I got my question answered about your age.

        MW whenever you decide to divulge more information on real estate I’m all ears as are many 😀 ehehe

      • #399 by DelilahElise on 2011.05.27 - 5:12 pm


      • #400 by JS on 2011.05.30 - 8:49 am

        I don’t think anybody should get their spots back myself. This is a new game. We are starting fresh. Too many people hogged it all for too long to now put them back would be ridiculous.

      • #401 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.31 - 2:09 am

        I kind of agree with JS, but it might be a lot of pain to take all the paz back up before opening.

    • #402 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.23 - 2:48 pm

      I think he gets it .. you have and are willing to spend huge amounts of money when and IF you get your old PAZ’s back.
      Right now I think he has bigger things to worry about, like getting the new servers running and ThereIM going.
      I suspect its going to be at least another month after that before the common areas will be open.
      Save all the thinly veiled threats for AFTER ThereIM starts up That will be the time when they will be worrying about PAZ placement.
      Bump, all of us who know you understand how much you have spent on There but right now might not be the right time to ask those questions.
      Michael is doing his best to do the right thing for ALL of us.

      • #403 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.24 - 10:43 am

        Snoopy you hav`nt spent alot of money like some of us have nor do you have the pazes like some of us have so you dont have to worry about it, But we do!! So we can ask all the qustions we want!! No matter what Mw and staff is working hard to get ALL of There up and running and everybody knows this!!! So i dont need you jumping in and starting crap ( Pushing Buttons ) like some of us know you like to by saying were threating in anyway, Those are your words!!! NOT OURS!!! Oh ya wipe the brown stuff off your nose.

      • #404 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.25 - 2:39 am

        Bump, all of us who know you understand how much you have spent on There. Which part of that didn’t you understand?
        You have at least 2 months to worry about your Paz’s.
        Not trying to push anyone’s buttons or start crap. If I was, you would know it.
        Just making a simple observation and, as usual, you react angrily.
        Bump, you need to chill out! This is a new start for ALL of us and the best thing we can ALL do is go into there, this time with the attitude we will make the best out of a fresh start. Not with guns blasting away and an attitude that everyone is out to get us.

      • #405 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.25 - 7:22 am

        Some of us ( Not Me ) Has Burnt down way to many Bridges and they can`t be fixed, It`s not just me that feels this way, I see your good with paste and copying because your repeating your self and changing my words around, So now i have to do the samething, What i said was No matter what Mw and staff is working hard to get ALL of There up and running and everybody knows this!!!. So plzzz dont be changing my words around, And snoopy you of all people should`t be thinking for anybody body but your self ( i think he gets it ) << your words, So plzzz stop with the paz thing you should`t have to worry about it!!!!!! You and all 50 of your avi`s( your words ) again. Remember the last week before There closed up on the tower you telling me this? I bet not because iam telling everybody else, But you and everybody that knows me knows i dont B.S,lie,steal and when you get me mad iam right there to confront the person. So Plzzzzz snoopy Drop it!!!!.

      • #406 by NathanAvis on 2011.05.27 - 5:51 am

        Bumpin, sometimes getting the last word doesn’t always equate to getting the last laugh.
        I, too, spent silly money on PaZ hotspots (PoP, Duda, Space) but this is a fresh start and we have to let that all go. If we are lucky, we will get back our old spots. If we aren’t, we can at least wait it out (like I have done many times before) to claim those spots once again. Spending entitles you only to what you purchase and nothing more. Those “investments” we made are now long gone, and MW doesn’t owe us anything.

        Please stop going off the rails. This is a CEO’s blog for a respectable business, start showing some respect as a consumer.

      • #407 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.27 - 7:21 am

        NathenAvis the post to you ended up on # 148 some of it needed to be backspaced but that what i get for typing in the dark.

      • #408 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.27 - 9:31 am

        How predictable. You are NEVER open to constructive criticism.
        I was merely trying to point out the CORRECT time and place for you to ask those questions is not now.
        I said:
        “Bump, all of us, who know you, understand how much you have spent on There”
        Which part of that didn’t you understand? I ONLY have a few hundred dollars invested in There which is NOTHING compared to you and Billy and MANY more.
        Now, take a couple of deep breaths and CHILL OUT! Stop being so paranoid. Everyone is NOT out to get you.

      • #409 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.27 - 11:15 am

        Snoop nobodys paranoid, Me and others have every right to worry about getting our spots back. If you look at the top of the page it says, Iam so There, There will be reopening. I dont see where it says you can`t talk about getting your pazes and your spots back. So you and whoever else needs to Chill Out!!! Nobody need you to point out the correct time and place, By the way who make you blog monitor?

      • #410 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.27 - 2:36 pm

        Another swing and a miss! I attempted to say something and it went right over your head.
        I understand Bump, I just think it was the wrong timing. You still have over a month, probably more like 2 months, to have Makena address the problems you and Billy and a LOT of other people will probably have.
        Right now they are busting their butts just to get ThereIM working and I suspect AT least another month before they get all the COMMON areas going.
        Tell you what, I’m not going to pursue this any longer BUT if I see one of your spots open in Zephyr, count on me putting down a Paz UNTIL you get into game. When you do, I will gladly relinquish it to you.
        Copy and hold onto this until after Zephyr opens. I don’t want you accusing me of stealing your paz.
        For the record, when There closed, I had no paz’s down anywhere in game so if it says, in the first week, it belongs to xSnoopy, its either yours or Billy’s.
        Besides, you might be busy paintballing and talking to Paddy. Where did that come from?
        He is a lot more forgiving than I would ever be, after the way he got screwed.
        YOUR THE MAN Patty !!

      • #411 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.27 - 3:18 pm

        Snoop snoop snoop just like to keep things going, this has nothing to do with timming, mister blog monitor. And snoop your still repetting your self, just changing your words around. Plzz dont do ANYTHING FOR ME!!! and we dont want to talk about screwing people huh mister name stealer, does onverse ring a bell? mister names their pets after people from he dont like just to grief them. The people who knows you knows the kinda person you really are! The people here dont. how are you going to pay for 50avi`s? you know the ones you use to spy on people? Now you can say all you want THIS IS MY LAST POST WITH YOU.

      • #412 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.28 - 3:38 am

        Got to admit, that was pretty funny in Onverse. You sure that was me or just someone else that doesn’t like the individual(s) whose name(s) were taken? Never can tell, it could have been 2 or more people huh? I had no idea that Onverse had those names reserved.
        Sooo, your saying that IF I took the name he/she had in There, that equates to screwing someone out of 1,500,000 TBucks he put put into the pot to help purchase Arctic for Snipers?
        Bump, I told someone, on here, to quit being “deliberately stupid”. Right now you fit that category perfectly.
        I can tell that your getting pretty wound up so I also will make this my last comment on this particular subject.
        However, I do reserve the right to post where and when I see fit.

    • #413 by Summers on 2011.05.30 - 1:32 pm

      I love seeing grown men fight like teenage girls.
      Cute. 🙂

      • #414 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.06.13 - 2:19 pm

        Just wait until someone hides their favorite lip gloss…

  135. #415 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.22 - 2:37 pm

    Are the Tbux quests going to happen again where we go hunting for the gems and things?

  136. #416 by Unknown on 2011.05.22 - 1:54 pm

    Oh ok sure thing Thanks..I hope I wont get hit by the paintballing going around Zephyr…Or I guess im just going to put mines to work after all I suck at Paintball..Instead of aiming at someone im aiming way off.

    • #417 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 4:45 pm

      lol i have one word for ya Forcefield just go to the deck and ask around : )

  137. #418 by HighFlier on 2011.05.22 - 1:23 pm

    As the world is only 18+ now I wonder how it will effect some events from the past which were directed toward teens? I don’t see why we can’t still have these events. It was so much fun getting dressed up and seeing your buds in tux’s and bunny wear. The pretty girls in colorful dresses and high heels. My date was a totally brainless and clueless chic. Best date I ever had.

    • #419 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 3:12 pm

      LOL I so remember that…wonderful date you had there!!!!

  138. #420 by Therefan123 on 2011.05.22 - 12:54 pm

    Hello MW I got a question what if I don’t pay until the world opens? Does that mean i won’t be able to get my old avatar back and inventory?

  139. #423 by Rick on 2011.05.22 - 12:13 pm

    So Mr wilson for the people that do not own a credit card it wont be possible to pay the monthly fee? im 19 and i dont own a credit card i thought about either using these paybycash options like the ugc and psc

    • #424 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 1:02 pm

      I don’t know yet. I’m just explaining what challenges are.

      • #425 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.22 - 1:29 pm

        could try a paypal subscription service?

      • #426 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 1:32 pm

        For the person at an earlier post who didn’t want his personal credit card info on file, maybe it could be possible for them to open the account with a first payment on a credit card to verify their identity as a one time payment that will not stay on file and allow them to pay the remaining fees with an UGC or other prepaid credit card that they don’t have to be concerned about?
        I think paying online with a credit card is like driving on the public roads, you know the risk of an accident, but the risk doesn’t outway the need for most people.

    • #427 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 1:32 pm

      Rick you can go to walmart and at the checkout ask where the debit cards ( Master Card ) are you just put money on it and use it like a credit card but dont get rid of your receipt untill you get your new card in the mail with your name on it. You`ll need the receipt to activate your new card when it comes in the mail, After thet you can refill it over and over at walmart for $3.00 i hope this helps you. : )

    • #428 by Studly From There on 2011.05.23 - 6:35 am

      You could always go to the local supermarket, Rite Aid, Walgreens,…etc. and purchase a Visa, American Express gift card.

    • #429 by hugsalot on 2011.05.31 - 8:46 am

      Debit card from your checking account works, done that in the past to buy T$.

  140. #430 by JS on 2011.05.22 - 12:07 pm

    I better Google what ThereIM is. The closest thing to ThereIM might be the IM box inside There. I didn’t think there was any stand alone skype like messenger There had so. I guess I am off to find out unless some of you know which I am sure you do. Thanks

    • #431 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 1:24 pm

      It isn’t a chat box. It is a groupchat window.
      Richard Hallock posted this earlier around post 125:
      I tried to find a good video of it on YouTube. Try this
      You also had a changing room sort of interface which allowed you to dress your avatar and view it from a variety of angles.

    • #432 by Rick on 2011.05.22 - 1:35 pm

      it was a small client where youd be able to see and access your inventory and see all of your friends online/offline and you could chat with them itd show both your avatars like if you were in a chat group

  141. #433 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.22 - 11:56 am

    Will Coke avies be turned into There avies?

  142. #434 by Basya on 2011.05.22 - 11:43 am

    Thanks for the update, MW!! I am looking forward to being back in world!

    I do have a couple of questions I’ve been wondering about:

    Will we have JinXplorer enabled at the same time we designers will be able to put our creations up for auction? I certainly hope so — it would make it so much easier to list a whole bunch to start off with!!

    Also, is there any chance to allow designers to paint SUPER Bunnies of their own? I have painted a few pair of regulars in the past, but would love to make them (and others) into Super Bunnies!!

    Cya in There,

    • #435 by Basya on 2011.05.22 - 11:49 am

      Oops! I do have one other suggestion about having additional avies! Would it be feasible to allow additonal avies (maybe at reduced cost) to designers, etc. that would have restricted capablities such as no voice, etc. They couldn’t be used to interact with others, but just used for screen captures for auctions or even just used as “mules” or some such.

      Just a suggestion!

  143. #436 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 11:08 am

    Ok..Let’s ALL get ready to go THERE!!!! ‘yay ‘yay ‘yay ‘tu
    Dedicated to all of US Therians… Just can’t wait…I am SO SO excited its wacko..hahahah

    • #437 by Basya on 2011.05.22 - 12:14 pm

      Oh you have such a beautiful voice, Odile! I envy you — I can’t carry a tune to save my life!

      Cya in There!

      • #438 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 1:19 pm

        She sure does, her and Fifi and many others use to sing at my karaoke club and I look forward to having them all back.

      • #439 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 1:42 pm

        Thank you Basya…You and I go way back (1998)…amazing how 3d worlds such as ‘There’ bring people together in a real way… The one thing that was so amazing about ‘There’ was the fact so many people could do all kinds of things to have fun and get much talent in ‘There’ for sure… (designing, movie pictures, video productions, singing, entertaining, There soap opera’s LOL etc)
        Yes, see you ‘There’ for sure…

      • #440 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.23 - 5:54 am

        ‘Tu to you Jimony, it’s a done deal for sure! See you there… 🙂
        Can’t wait for us all to get together once again….

    • #441 by HighFlier on 2011.05.22 - 1:17 pm

      Don’t know about the rest of you but that made my day. WOW!!! what a performance Odile. BRAVO BRAVO. Yup it’s gona be a There Revival. Lets hear more where that came from PLEASE!!!

  144. #442 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.22 - 10:37 am

    When, where will the next OFFICIAL There live gathering be? Can’t wait to be There again.. :d

  145. #443 by Unknown on 2011.05.22 - 10:13 am

    Soon as closed I was looking for There IM…I could never find it then I found it in one of Thumdar’s blogs..And by that time it closed so I never got the chance to use it but I guess this is another chance for me…I wont miss it this time :DDD. And Bumpin maybe you could help me with my Hood when it reopens as for teaching me all the steps of getting the island and how much acres I want and etc.

    • #444 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 12:21 pm

      Sure i`d be glad to help you just hit me up in Zephyr, Thats where i hangout at. : )

  146. #445 by Innie on 2011.05.22 - 9:27 am

    I sure hope I can get my stuff off my daughter’s avatar. I know she is underage…..but it was my stuff she took. She took my nike zooms, my buggies, and some of my clothes. I bet I could talk to Samsyn or something about that after it opens, though.

    • #446 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 10:34 am

      Oh dang my grandson has some of my stuff to… : ((

    • #447 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 10:53 am

      you know what..come to think of it…My two grandkids have my stuff too..Great question…I guess we will have to prove that by our bank accounts? hmmmm hope it’s feasible…

  147. #448 by ltbigdog on 2011.05.22 - 7:45 am

    CCR all the way BABY!!!!!!!

  148. #449 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 7:40 am

    Wow if cokes not there nomore then all coke stuff will start to be rare, I love to buy rare stuff lol

    • #450 by Sleestak on 2011.05.22 - 11:00 am

      there is a good chance they will not be able to display the coke logo on vehicles any more, I hope the vehicles that are in world now will be able to stay, same with my yahoo hoverboard lol

      • #451 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 1:16 pm

        Why would Coke want to remove their logo? It’s free advertising. Plus, they’ve already either paid for the advertising or been paid for the use of the logo on what has already been sold.

      • #452 by Winston on 2011.05.22 - 7:35 pm

        Naw. They can’t take away the stuff we already own. We won’t be able to get any new things but the stuff we have should be safe. It’s like buying a souvenir at the Coke store in Atlanta. Once I’ve purchased it I can walk down the street drinking an RC Cola…or re-sell it to a guy at the airport. Plus, as mentioned, it’s free advertising. If I go racing at the track with my Coke buggy or give some newbies a tour in my hoverboat, it’s just screaming at them “Get a Coke!”

  149. #453 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.22 - 5:19 am

    • #454 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 5:58 am

      ???? cat got your tongue??? rofl

      • #455 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 7:37 am

        Lmao!!! 😛

  150. #456 by HighFlier on 2011.05.22 - 4:39 am

    Could drinks be on the house like they do at Las Vegas Casinos? That’s how the casinos do it so why not There? That might be one way to tease in a few cats off the streets of other virtual environments if they know cocktails are on the house. People like their drinks ya know and before There died the last time I had my fair share of them. Hoping to spread some of that lovin around again with my pals and any new pals that come along. I used to have drinks with these two lushes>

    • #457 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 5:54 am

      I remember we received gifts from ‘There’…Don’t really like to say free stuff, because, then ALL of us avies start to scamper around like maniacs looking for gold dust!!!! rofl rofl ..
      Anyway, remember when ‘There’ would give out items for spring or winter etc etc… Loved those items, and I am so looking foward to the ones in my inventory: ballons, kites, hmmm man it’s been so long, I cannot remember what the items were…
      Maybe ‘there’ will gift us again with these fantastic items…
      So Highflier, we going to bug people again this year? I mean (cough cough), Highlighter? hahahah hugs

      • #458 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 5:56 am

        Hey dude…that’s us!!! rofl rofl ..that was the day we decided to drink and drink and drink LOL wow…good times!!!

    • #459 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 6:21 am

      Man that picture makes me miss my Island ( Hood ) more and more, Press and i had it for almost 2 yrs and then the game closed. I cant wait for the reopening : ))

      • #460 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 1:13 pm

        Hey! There’s Fifi! I haven’t heard if she is coming back, has anyone else?

  151. #461 by martin71 on 2011.05.22 - 3:38 am

    hi there MW would i loose my funzone when it reopens and i would have claim it again ?
    and the prices say the same and not go to a silly price like some members do charge

    cya soon


  152. #462 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 2:47 am

    Its funny how the posts get mixed up as time gose by…… lol

  153. #463 by Malingo on 2011.05.22 - 1:44 am

    Will the almighty There_Monitor and the there_tester minions return to the Therian surface?

    • #464 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.22 - 11:52 am

      I hope so Malingo, So people liked hunting for sparkles but many of us loved to hunt for There_testers. If they dont have need for them maybe it could be turn into a game. Have them located to different spots in There and let people hunt and move them to a location…. 😀

      • #465 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 2:38 pm

        Sounds Like Fun To Me.

  154. #466 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.05.22 - 1:25 am

    Oh no kidding Moondust, the past year without There definetly left a whole in the internet world. I’m more blown away how people are expecting things out of MW as if hes Grandpa Wilson ( maybe not grandpa, uncle sound better? lol) or owes them something? If I was MW, my patience with the demands and manner’s would wear thin for sure. All I can say is chill people. The fee is $10, either pay it or don’t play. All the other question’s he’s being slammed with, I’m sure he will update us as soon as he knows… as he has been doing. He just announced the opening a few days ago and now has to work on opening it, one step at a time. He could leave my avie naked in the middle of no where with no inventory and charge me to remake her, I’m just happy is getting a second chance.. 🙂

    • #467 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 5:34 am

      The Fee is MAYBE 10 dollars….He said the fee will be at least 10 dollars but is TBD….= To Be Determined….

  155. #468 by David on 2011.05.21 - 11:38 pm

    Just a question……
    I want to claim my items back but not my old avatar name, is that possibble?

    • #469 by jimony on 2011.05.24 - 3:37 am

      I can understand your wanting to disguise your name if you log onto There, but aren’t you afraid YowNow will see you asking that question here?
      In answer, if we are able to consolidate inventory from multiple accounts, it should be just as possible to consolidate it onto a new one, with proof of ownership of the previous account. If not, you can just reactivate the old one and create a new one and then transfer old stuff to new.

    • #470 by jimony on 2011.05.30 - 12:37 pm

      Didn’t you say you’re 14? If you ask nicely, I bet MW will hold your info till your 18.

  156. #471 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.21 - 8:37 pm

    There is a ‘There Will Re-open’… on the ‘Home’ tab….plus there is also ‘There will re-open update’ ..also on the same ‘Home’ tab…Both should be read…It tells alot about questions we are STILL asking….. You have to scroll down the ‘home’ tab area to find both sections….

  157. #472 by frank on 2011.05.21 - 8:28 pm

    I was never banned, so dont get me wrong. I had friends that were. I think that since There is getting a clean slate, maybe the banned players should too. (And hey it’ll make you more money) Or atleast…be a little more lenient on banning in this new There generation. Hey its your world, dont get me wrong I absolutely love There. Just a little thing I had on my mind.

  158. #473 by Shonda on 2011.05.21 - 7:30 pm

    I don’t remember my old password and I’m not really too concerned about it. I want to make another avatar, so will I be able to use a new avatar for ThereIM or do I HAVE to have an old avatar?

    • #474 by TgKhali on 2011.05.22 - 3:22 am

      You won’t need a new avatar. Aslong as you have bought a membership then you will have the ability to make a new avatar and will have access to all features 🙂

    • #475 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 1:05 pm

      Why wouldn’t you? It wouldn’t make any sense for them not to allow new users to register.

  159. #476 by eleanorrigby on 2011.05.21 - 7:15 pm

    “My 14-year old dog could paintball better than you!”

    Isn’t this point moot now, seeing as your dog is too young to play There?

    • #477 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 9:49 pm

      Legally, that 14 year old dog is what? 98 human years? I think it is too old to paintball.

      • #478 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 7:32 am

        I say MW bring your dog down to the wild wild west ( zephyr ) and iam sure any of us zephyr people will show your dog how we shoot and then watch him slide away lol just like you did everytime, but is was fun tho. and then you stopped showing up on wednesdays : ( Will we be seeing you again?

      • #479 by NathanAvis on 2011.05.23 - 4:10 am

        I dunno….there’s something wrong about paintball an old helpless dog around a desert LOL

  160. #480 by That Guy on 2011.05.21 - 7:03 pm

    So end of June we can login to ThereIM, July / August we might be able to login to 3D world with minimal features?

    • #481 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 5:31 am

      I read about the ThereIM opening around the end of June, but where did you read about the July/August thingy?

      • #482 by JS on 2011.05.22 - 8:11 pm

        Maybe I won’t sign up right away if the only thing I get is ThereIM. I never even heard of it before. Nobody really publicized it in my opinion. Unless it is just a few days of it. Then the world starts working. Nobody really is explaining a lot about this ThereIM situation.

  161. #483 by Daytripper on 2011.05.21 - 6:52 pm

    Will there be some way of checking whether my “Lifetime” membership was one of the qualifying “Lifetime Beta” memberships? I paid $10 for it a long time ago but I can’t remember exactly when.

    • #484 by JS on 2011.05.21 - 8:32 pm

      Lifetime membership was 30.00. You didn’t get Lifetime. 10.00 deals is not what they are talking about. Everybody had those for premium memberships. Lifetime was in early 2003. You lose. I lose. I missed that deal by a couple months or so myself.

    • #485 by Orielle on 2011.05.22 - 11:01 am

      Back when I paid for Aurielle’s premium membership I took screenshots of the entire process of paying for her with a Ultimate Game Card in case anyone ever asked again how to use one. I went through those screenshots and no where did it say I was paying $10 for a Lifetime account, just that I was paying to upgrade to premium. Now if I want to continue to be Aurielle I’ll have to pay whatever the monthly fee is to retain that account’s premium account status.

      Screenshot of paying $9.95 to upgrade Aurielle to premium membership

      • #486 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 11:04 am

        The problem with UGC for subscriptions is that it makes it very easy for Griefers to register over and over again, despite the fact they’ve been banned. That’s what we have to solve, or not, if we can’t find a way to keep those sorts out.

        UGC’s for T$ purchases make perfect sense and we’ll probably turn them on at some time.

      • #487 by JS on 2011.05.22 - 3:10 pm

        I just looked at it and it didn’t say lifetime. If that is the case 99% of us have the lifetime. I know it is the 30 dollar Beta deal they are speaking of. Any other deal is null and void. I remember something about lifetime too. I paid 10 dollars for a premium avatar for a few accounts. Let me see if I can count them brb. I had 8 premium accounts. I believe I paid for 9 but gave one up. Anyway if that is the case those are all lifetime. That for sure won’t happen because that is the accounts everyone had. I remember though in December 2003 when I signed up I was told about the 30.00 Lifetime membership deal. I hated how I missed that. I was happy when it all was free and it didn’t matter anymore. But now it matters again. That feeling I missed the boat is back.

  162. #488 by taylorleigh on 2011.05.21 - 6:33 pm

    OMG<!!!! i DELETED from my computer.everything had too do with it.. Will there be a NEW DownLoad too do when it opens up or What??? someone tell me..PLZ?? Will it affect me not getting my original avie back???? OMG!!!!!

    • #489 by JS on 2011.05.21 - 8:33 pm

      Everybody deleted It went out of business. You would have had to be an idiot to keep it installed. How old are you? lol

      • #490 by Geoffr524 on 2011.05.22 - 7:43 am

        I left installed on a 3rd PC, just for the heck of it. I still got the layout files for my PAZs too.

      • #491 by taylorleigh on 2011.05.22 - 7:59 am

        JS….I am way lot older than u are,,, if u read above..some guy mentioned he still had it on his computer..thats why i asked??? just read it,, Geez… dont start calling people names either,,Not nice.. JS

      • #492 by Susie Redlin on 2011.05.23 - 6:58 am

        lol I’ll be 59 in 2 weeks, and I still have There and There IM on my computer. in deep denial that There closed.

        MW, didn’t see this addressed so far, but when you DO open up the public areas could you make sure there’s a whole bunch of card tables scattered about? And the new word game, never got a chance to play that. Spades in second life is a poor substitute for There cards. (Come to think of it, everything in SL is pale compared to There, but hey, SL is free, you get what you pay for).

        I intend to be your evil aunt. And I have many Woman of a Certain Age buddies who will join me in keeping you in line. Be nice, I have a ‘giddyup and am not afraid to use it.

        Auntie Jane Austen

    • #493 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.22 - 8:23 am

      I never uninstalled it from my old computer, and I’m 56. How old are you?

      • #494 by JS on 2011.05.22 - 2:51 pm

        I wasn’t calling anybody names. You didn’t leave it installed so no harm done. You are right. I guess some people that just don’t mess with there computer much could have a program installed that they haven’t used for a couple years and they could be a rocket scientist. So a thousand apologies. You were just getting a little frantic about how you uninstalled There like that would be it for you. I thought that was a little silly to think that. No big deal

      • #495 by JS on 2011.05.22 - 2:57 pm

        I am 44. Fine. If anybody didn’t uninstall There it means nothing negative about that person. They are certainly not an idiot. It just means that the person isn’t into cleaning up a pc by uninstalling programs that will not serve a purpose. Or maybe it felt like if you didn’t uninstall There it would somehow tell the Universe that There is meant to be and that it should come back into existence. So thanks for your efforts with compelling the consciousness into bringing it back. It is much appreciated. Good luck!

      • #496 by Susie Redlin on 2011.05.23 - 6:59 am

        another evil auntie heard from!

        jane austen

    • #497 by Orielle on 2011.05.22 - 11:14 am

      I guess I’m an idiot. I kept There installed as well as Stylemaker, previewer, and ThereIM. I did however uninstall There Philippines, all installs of vMTV (I was one of the few testers of the QT client there), There beta client and any other test clients I still had for There. As a designer keeping There installed was a good idea since I’m already working on future submissions again. Right now I’m working on some requests, cheerleader outfits in nametag colors and I want to match them to the supers released during the last There Games.

      • #498 by JS on 2011.05.22 - 8:03 pm

        I used to go into TherePH. There Philippines. I enjoyed it in there. People loved it in TherePH too but it just didn’t work out with being able to put things in the Auction. The deal wasn’t working out with There. Too much trouble. But at least I enjoyed it some.

      • #499 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.24 - 10:04 am

        Orielle Theres nothing wrong with you keeping all the There stuff and i think it great you can go back to designing things again, And wow the supers i have so many pairs of them now lol anyways you go girl you get your design on!!!

    • #500 by SimplyComplex on 2011.05.28 - 7:46 pm

      OMG all gone! thats it life over.

  163. #501 by Therefan123 on 2011.05.21 - 4:38 pm

    Will there be trading once it reopens?

    • #502 by RMDesigns on 2011.05.21 - 5:08 pm

      Im pretty sure eventually all services will be up and running again, just there probably gonna come a little at a time..

  164. #503 by Domano on 2011.05.21 - 4:21 pm

    is there a possibility of having a small strip of Laguna Beach in world (Like from Virtual Laguna). Perhaps the boardwalk to the east and starting a little north of the life guard tower down to the pier? Perhaps the association that sponsors the Laguna Beach Art Festival or even the city of Laguna Beach might have an interest in making a presence there for a fee paid to Makena?

  165. #504 by debbilyn on 2011.05.21 - 4:20 pm

    Many thanks for bringing “There” back. I am already looking forward to questing with friends and deleting games that have bored me to tears over the last year.

  166. #505 by HighFlier on 2011.05.21 - 4:07 pm

    OK heres a very important question I’m sure is nagging at everyone. I keep seeing 10 bucks mentioned, has this price for the fee been officially decided? If so I sure missed it or I’m getting so old my brain did not take in that financial information. If not will “THE FEE” be $9.95, $9.96, $9.97, $9.98, $9.99 or just a flat 10 bucks rate as everyone is saying? I sort of have a thing about not liking odd numbers for prices of things and would prefer an even number if possible considering having to budget this now into my monthly bills. My wallet is already starting to scream at me and pinch me about this unexpected expenditure I’m demanding it to make room for. I suppose just a flat 10 bucks would be nice as 10 always makes me think of a perfect 10. However I’m used to paying $9.99 for things and I suppose my wallet would like the 1 cent savings. I’ve heard that $9.98 can be unlucky… some kind of myth and well no one likes 6’s unless they are into bad numbers of the occult. 5 is a wonderful number that represents sales a lot in my local grocery and drug store and that would be another 4 cents off and then my wallet might smile back at me. 7’s make you feel like your paying to get a haircut or go to a movie. Maybe 10 is a good thing though as Martha Stuart would say. Hmm, It’s a lot to think about isn’t it?

    • #506 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 5:15 pm

      I am positive it hasn’t been announced yet.
      I think people are just assuming. I would rather pay 10 per month myself, but it would be hard for them to raise it rather than lower it in the near future.

    • #507 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.21 - 8:30 pm

      hey there highflier, If you go to the tab that says ‘home’ and scroll down to the second title part…
      quote from MW:
      “We will work to re-open There as a Paid Service (fees TBD, but at least $10/month):”
      TBD = To Be Determined…. no less than, but could be more than 10…

      I think the problem might be that there are 4 tabs on the blog site..and some of us don’t know which ones to click…

  167. #508 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 3:49 pm

    It’s now after Raprure time. MW please respond to let us know if you weren’t the only one who was taken?
    I mean, congratulations if you were, though.

    • #509 by Bronnieb59 on 2011.05.21 - 6:33 pm

      ROFL!!! ……Jimony that’s hilarious! 🙂

    • #510 by Winston on 2011.05.21 - 7:01 pm

      ROFL 😀

    • #511 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 12:08 am

      Hello, hello? Mister Wilson?
      There doesn’t seem to be anyone home!
      I think finding a way for There to come back was the only worthy act God could find.
      I sure hope there was a plan for this. Now that Wilson must have been raptured, who will carry on his faithfull work?
      I bet Camping must be awfully jealous.

    • #512 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.22 - 2:22 am

      *LIKE* 🙂 🙂 🙂

  168. #513 by Esky on 2011.05.21 - 2:59 pm

    Thanks for this info, Michael. It’s such great news. I’ve been following the blog comments closely and I have a couple of questions that I haven’t seen answered.

    – Will the cleansed results of the survey be published?
    – Can you say at this point if There Central and There Forums will come online at the same time as ThereIM, or will you wait until the There Client becomes available and the larger world re-opens?

  169. #514 by DUSTIN4040 on 2011.05.21 - 2:45 pm

    Im sorry mr.wilson i didnt realize alot of people have been asking you alot of questions. I didnt mean to upset you or anybody else.

  170. #515 by RMDesigns on 2011.05.21 - 2:35 pm

    Ok quick question, are the items that were obtained that are lets say for instance Scions, Coke Products etc.. still going to exist or did they terminate when your contract terminated?

    • #516 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 5:10 pm

      I believe the Scion contract ended before There ended. They didn’t take away our Scions then, so there should be no legal excuse to now.

  171. #517 by There Lover on 2011.05.21 - 2:28 pm

    Quick question. is ThereIM able to be installed on Macintosh computers?

  172. #518 by bella)ealker on 2011.05.21 - 2:10 pm

    Hello Michael Wilson, we are very pleased and excited about the fact that is re-opening. If we forget our pasaswords how do we retrieve them? Thank you and thank you for bringing There back 🙂

  173. #519 by DrChisel on 2011.05.21 - 1:22 pm

    I’m wondering how long you think will be between ThereIM opening phase and the first world opening phase? Thanks.

  174. #520 by Antresh on 2011.05.21 - 1:02 pm

    without knurling or offend the truth I do not like to pay for the game I love good and I have no money to pay it so my dream of returning to the game is gone

    • #521 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 5:08 pm

      I am sorry, Antfresh. I hope your financial status changes so you can afford to do more things you would like to.
      I have been there myself and I know that nothing stays the same, so hopefully it won’t be long before you are able to join the rest who can afford or who prioritize There so they can budget it in.

  175. #522 by Mike on 2011.05.21 - 12:47 pm

    You guys are already complaining and demanding it’s not even open yet. No wonder Michael threw his hands up in the air the first time. Pay the $10 a month or go somewhere else. Wait… you have tried everywhere else and it wasn’t no where near as good as THERE so thats why you are back after a year?? Ok then.. PAY THE $10!

    On a side note.. I don’t think we should be able to piggy back Avi’s. Yes I’m going against everyone here because I think multiple Avi’s cause alot of trouble with all the spying that goes on. People acting like they are someone else to cause trouble with other people they know that they no longer get along with for an example. People that are banned from hoods that change their Avi just to get back in the hood to cause trouble again. I’ve seen it a million times. If someone wants to go through all that trouble with a double Avi.. let them pay the additional $10 per month to do so. I bet those issues will stop real FAST!

    • #523 by satarell on 2011.05.21 - 1:08 pm

      only reason I see to have 2 avis is for developers one male one female they have differences in placement and such

    • #524 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 1:47 pm

      Mike some of us have so much stuff we need more then one avi Press and i have a hood avi for our hood, not everybody with more then one avi is a trouble maker and i voted for $60 dollars a mo then i would have payed for only one avi lol but now iam going to pay for 2 or 3 avi`s.But on the other hand your right about the trouble makers.

    • #525 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.21 - 3:37 pm

      Mike said:
      “You guys are already complaining and demanding it’s not even open yet. No wonder Michael threw his hands up in the air the first time. Pay the $10 a month or go somewhere else. Wait… you have tried everywhere else and it wasn’t no where near as good as THERE so thats why you are back after a year?? Ok then.. PAY THE $10! ”
      AMEN to that!!
      Michael and his staff are trying their best to get us back into There ASAP and what do some of you do? Start whining about every little thing imaginable.
      The longer we whine and they are forced to answer questions that have been asked and answered MANY times, the longer it will be before we get to go home.
      Like the man said, PAY THE $10 cuz all of us know you ain’t gonna find nuttin that even comes close.

    • #526 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 5:05 pm

      I think alt or mule avies should be allowed with a reduced charge per additional accounts (Full charge for first month per additional avie). Allow two to login at a time, so you can trade and transfer or use the second avie to view a placement from another angle while building.
      I completely agree with you Mike about the griefing with alternate accounts that went on, but there are several valid reasons for needing two avie’s logged on.

      However, managing inventory SHOULD NOT be a reason to need one. I know it was the main reason in the past, but I hope the ability to store and takeout items is greatly improved. When dropping items, it seldom made sense as to why some items were located where they were.
      Scrolling through long menus to find stuff was irritating. We should be able to organize our menu the way we want to access our stuff.
      I really hope this is something that has been worked on while There was Offline.

      • #527 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 10:30 am

        Jimony i`d love to beable to store my stuff because i have ahole hell of alot of stuff and i like to store alot of it on my Happydog avi so my Bumpin avi dont get slowed down for my paintballing. I dont care i`ll pay for every avi i need in game after all thats what makes our world go around, I`d like to beable to click on a name tag and have it show all that persons alts this would help with the griefing.

      • #528 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 12:57 pm

        I like that idea, too, Bumpin.

  176. #529 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.05.21 - 12:13 pm

    I mean this the nicest way possible… Can you guys tone down the cost he will be charging or asking for free items? The cost of There I think is more then fair. It’s much cheaper then seeing a movie, thats for sure. The more demands the site gets, the less the site makes and it will only close again. Help succeed the site instead of sinking it.

    • #530 by Tiggy on 2011.05.21 - 12:34 pm

      Can we have Velociraptors in Zephyr?


    • #531 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 12:41 pm

      I agree Yankee. A tried and true Therian will not spend their time boo hooing about the costs. $10 is a nominal fee and I feel that is more than fair. People need to suck it up and quit whining about it. Whining will not change the decision that is made. I would much rather pay $10 and have There than to have There be free and then to have it close down for good because they could not afford to keep it open. One year without There was tough and I definitely do not want to go through that again.

      • #532 by DrChisel on 2011.05.21 - 1:24 pm

        I agree also I think the fee helps them help the world be more enjoyable for us. 🙂

      • #533 by Tiggy on 2011.05.21 - 2:27 pm

        I just want to know what a year’s gonna run me before too long.. gotta schedule more hours in at work so I can cover a year at least… And buy my paintballing tbux of course.

        (I work at a golf course and club with resturant…so the work season is on us here and I’ll be able to cover it best during summer)

    • #534 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.21 - 2:12 pm

      omg yankeee!!!!!! hiya

      • #535 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.05.22 - 12:59 am

        ::Waving:: Hi Jon! How have you been??

    • #536 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.21 - 6:07 pm

      I didn’t think they’d decided on the price yet. Did I miss it?

  177. #537 by DUSTIN4040 on 2011.05.21 - 11:18 am

    It was just a question a simple yes would of been fine but thank u for answering my question.

  178. #538 by Karmapup on 2011.05.21 - 11:17 am

    OK, and forgive me if this has already been asked, I try to keep up on the blog, but I surely miss some things, but what is ThereIM? Is it just like the IM in world or is it something completely different? I played for 2 years before shutdown but I never used this. I have heard people make reference to it, but just never had any need for it I suppose.

    • #539 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 12:04 pm

      Ya it work the same way you login and type in a IM box. I hope this helps you.

      • #540 by jimony on 2011.05.21 - 4:50 pm

        Bumpin, ThereIM is nothing like a chat box, it is like a groupchat (with avatars in a semicircle group.
        Open Richard Hallock’s link for a video of what it is like. There is avatars, chat bubbles and you can dance!
        It will be good just to see our avatars again. I am sure they will be working as fast as they can to bring the rest of the world up as soon as possible. I doubt the intention is for it to be much more than a few days to a week from the ThereIM opening.

      • #541 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 5:53 pm

        Hey jimony did you see what i said on post 101? Thx tho

      • #542 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 5:53 pm

        Ok102 lol

      • #543 by jimony on 2011.05.22 - 12:53 pm

        What? After I moon? You want me to moon you? I don’t think There had that emote.

      • #544 by NathanAvis on 2011.05.27 - 5:40 am

        Bumpin42, one question if I may; are you over 18 years old?

      • #545 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.27 - 7:06 am

        NathanAvis You dont know the Past him and i and for that mater some of the people in Zephyr have with each other, This is`nt about getting the last word in or a laugh out of it for all. For all i know your him in one of his alts because i`ve never seen or heard of you and i get around and i`ve delt with alot of people being one of the ex owners of Alex`s PaintBall zone, So dont be just pointing your finger at me with this with this paz thing iam not the only one worryed about it, If you read ALL the posts you would will seen this, I see you only have 3 or 4 posts one about PaintBall a dog and the other two about pazes and you asked if i was 18. no iam 47 with 9 grandkids and are you 18? I think your snoopy, like i said i know ALOT of people iam going to ask around today!!!! So like i said in to snoopy Just Drop It!!!

      • #546 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.27 - 7:11 am

        Well this post is in the wrong spot.

    • #547 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 12:33 pm

      Karma…THERE IM shows your avatar and the avatar of the person you are chatting with. You can go into your inventory and change your avatar’s looks. I think that is about all you can do with it. It sure will be nice to see my avatar again as well as the avatar’s of my friends. Oh how I have missed them so.

      • #548 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 1:35 pm

        Iam sure Karma would have seen that after logging in., wow

      • #549 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 5:55 pm

        man its time for bed it was 101

    • #550 by Karmapup on 2011.05.21 - 1:33 pm

      Thx for the info, that is what I was thinking, though I did not know about the avatar part.

    • #551 by Richard Hallock on 2011.05.21 - 3:15 pm

      I tried to find a good video of it on YouTube. Try this
      You also had a changing room sort of interface which allowed you to dress your avatar and view it from a variety of angles.

      • #552 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 3:54 pm

        Wtg Richard!! Karm richard has your answer click on the you tube link he has in his post. : )

    • #553 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 4:55 pm

      Bumpin…WTF is your problem? Karma asked a question…I answered. Get over yourself already. WOW!

      • #554 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 6:03 pm

        I gave karma a answer you did`t like, so you had to do one better, if he logged in he would have seen what was going on, so thats wtf my problem is so as you said… I answered. Get over yourself already. WOW

      • #555 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.22 - 2:15 am

        Bumpin…I had no idea that this was a contest on who can do one better. Karma asked a question and you gave a vague answer. I just explained to Karma what ThereIM is. There is no crime in doing that…so there is no need for you to get your panties in a wad.

        @Jimony…thanks for your EVEN better explanation of what ThereIM is. I can’t wait! 🙂

      • #556 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 6:10 am

        Moon your one of them people that like to keep pushing huh, Well you dont know me! I push back and will keep pushing, Just so you know miss last word!!!…so there is no need for you to get your panties in a wad. : ))

      • #557 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.22 - 8:40 am

        Bumpin…just like YOU do not know ME!

      • #558 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 10:10 am

        Well moon come down to zephyr and i`d love to show you my paintball gun.

    • #559 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 4:56 pm

      It is my pleasure Karma. ThereIM will suffice until the world is open. It will be nice to see our avi’s until then. 🙂

      • #560 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.22 - 2:18 am

        Salty…when There closed ThereIM was on for a few days. Me and my friends would meet up on there to squeeze out every last drop of There that we could. It is definitely a nice app to have if you are unable to go into the world. 🙂

    • #561 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.21 - 6:49 pm

      The There IM is like a IM box but you get a picture of your avie and other avies that you are talking with. Kind of like in game but the background is blue… you can change your clothes, check inventory and other things(maybe someone else can remember all you can do with it and fill in) you can talk in voice too. I used it when I went on vacation a few years back. It was nice. hope There will make an app for it to use on cell phones. 😀

      • #562 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.22 - 2:19 am

        Posted under the wrong name. Oops! 🙂

  179. #563 by toufovou on 2011.05.21 - 10:44 am

    Would be a good idea to update the FAQ on the ‘There’ website.

  180. #564 by DUSTIN4040 on 2011.05.21 - 10:31 am

    does thereIM still count for a month eventhough the world wont be open yet? please let me know!

    • #565 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.21 - 10:55 am

      I asked the employees if they would work for Free when just ThereIM was open, and they said they’d ask the grocery store, electric company, water company, etc if they would let them have everything for free then too. We’ll see what they say.

      • #566 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 11:47 am

        Damm a yes or no would have worked, is someone having a bad day?

      • #567 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 12:29 pm

        Michael has repeated himself over and over. Perhaps people should read the blog before asking redundant questions. NOTHING IS GOING TO BE FREE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! If you do not like that answer then I am sure that SL would love to have you. NEXT!!!!

      • #568 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 1:26 pm

        Mw should be happy to know your there to answer for him moon.

      • #569 by Jordan on 2011.05.21 - 1:28 pm

        To be fair Dustin didn’t ask for it to be free or even if it would be. I think we all know by now it won’t be Free which I agree with you MW, you’ve repeated that a lot but this particular question didn’t even have the word “free” in it.

        I personally guess it would count for a month yes but unsure, just sitting back and waiting at the moment 🙂

      • #570 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 4:53 pm

        Hey Bumpin…just stating fact. Move along now……..

      • #571 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 4:54 pm

        Jordan…you would not be JustJordan would you?

      • #572 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 5:49 pm

        Sure after you moon.

      • #573 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.21 - 8:16 pm

        Someone’s not having a bad day, but someone ‘is’ holding out a tin cup waiting for tid-bits to drop! 😉

      • #574 by Jordan on 2011.05.22 - 6:32 am

        moondustmadness – Nah I was Jordy26, but I’ve spoken to JustJordan too I think a while back.

    • #575 by Summers on 2011.05.22 - 8:14 am

      Blunkin (Bumpin) you have far to much time on your hands.
      The community in Zephyr would rather you did not get your paz back anyways,
      we are sick of the useless crap you put in it. (fireworks, etc.)

      🙂 So if you are going to be a jerk, just know that people are here to bite your ass right back.

      • #576 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 10:06 am

        Its nice to know that Summers, Whoever you maybe, because i dont remember you! is here to speek for all of Zephyrs community!! I payed good money for all my pazes and if you really cared you`d do as i did, buy them when there up for sale and then you could put down pretty little flowers to dance around. lol Oh my bad i see you speck for all people here,( Your words) well note that if you and whoever your speeking for are going to bit my ass then iam going to fart in your face. 😛 Oh ya just so you and your friends no, If more spots come up iam going to try to buy them just as you can do the same. So go back under whatever rock you came out from and mold for awhile then come back with your real avi and speek for you self.

      • #577 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 10:50 am

        Ok you two. Let’s stop this right now. You in the Office how Dwight was going to “Pre-Fire” someone? Well, as our new Assistant to the Regional Manager Of Customer Support (the Manager is GlaDOS), he tells me he can “Pre-Ban” too. Got that?

      • #578 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.22 - 12:08 pm

        Sorry Mw but if you look back you`ll see she attacked me i never said anything to her untill she came at me and even then i really did`t say anything that bad!!!

      • #579 by EvenStupider on 2011.05.22 - 12:47 pm


      • #580 by Summers on 2011.05.24 - 2:32 pm

        Bumpin, I hate to say it but I think i have been in the “Zephyr community” much longer than you have had a name tag. /= My real avie? Ive had about 200, I could most likely sit here and name them all for you… Just sayin…

        Sorry Mr.Wilson.
        I just didnt want the man to fart on my 18 year old face. /=

    • #581 by JACKSONofSPADES on 2011.05.22 - 10:22 am

      Personally, I wish we could all just be glad that we’re supporting Makena.
      I’m thinking of it more as a charity. I probably won’t use it, but it’ll be nice to fund them for a month or however long it takes to get the World up and running. I might see some old friends on it too?

  181. #582 by DUSTIN4040 on 2011.05.21 - 10:26 am

    Thank you mr wilson for the update!

  182. #583 by Doctor_Evil on 2011.05.21 - 10:19 am

    just went thru 30000 emails and found i didnt get the survey lol just tell us where to click and pay looks like ncsof and blizzard are about to lose 300.00 a month its funny i never un installed my there client out of nostalgia 🙂

  183. #584 by Dolphin on 2011.05.21 - 10:18 am

    Thanks for the update Michael. Can’t wait for the day that we can finally say WE ARE HOME!! 🙂

  184. #585 by JS on 2011.05.21 - 10:11 am

    What is ThereIM? I heard that you had some kind of messenger but I never saw it. I was in There until the end also and for years. I guess you didn’t publicize it because I missed it. Please let me know what it is.

    I guess getting this started again isn’t like flipping a switch and boom we are in There driving around with our shiny new buggy. This is going to be great. This time around I am taking a lot more screenshots of my adventures in There. There will be better with the monthly fee I am sure because it will weed out the abusers. They won’t be paying 10 dollars because they have other things to buy. So thank you for that. The losers will head over to SL to disrupt and disturb.

    Remember don’t give in to the kids attempts at begging to get in. They will be 18 soon enough. I am sure they will come in anyway with their parents signing them up. But at least they won’t be your responsibility. Also don’t hire any Greeters to sit around doing nothing. The island Guide program will take care of that. Just watch for the high and mighty women that put their abuse on us and treat us like 7 year old step children when in the power hungry Island Guide roll. I have got a little of that from one Guide when asking a simple question. But that was just one bad apple. All the other guides were cool for lack of a better word. I was a guide myself once. I liked it for a while but after a while I felt like a nerdy security guard so I quit lol.

  185. #586 by Sleestak on 2011.05.21 - 10:06 am

    I left my dog out when There closed, he is probabaly a pile of bones somewhere now. I watched “Life after people” I know what happens 😦

    • #587 by Susie Redlin on 2011.05.23 - 6:39 am

      I think a lot of canine cannibalism happened after threw ourselves down Avie Sacrifices. I know my Daisy had a ketchup bottle and was looking at the other dogs hungrily. Haven’t you heard it’s a dog eat dog world?

      • #588 by Susie Redlin on 2011.05.23 - 6:42 am

        p.s. I’m Jane Austen in There. One of MW’s nightmare aunts.

  186. #589 by danby on 2011.05.21 - 9:31 am

    hi all:), Am glad to see there will be up and running again! All my friends keep sending me emails and calling me by phone and seem very excited,lol.And thanks to michael for sending proper info. about whats going on:) Ty and see you in there:)waves

    • #590 by Zroy on 2011.05.22 - 4:13 pm

      Hey danby.. I hope u be good there.. i think you wont see me there 😦 cause im no 18+ , may in October.. when i become adult i can join to There.. but i think it’s unfair :S

      Have fun in There. tc 🙂

    • #591 by Maroan on 2011.05.24 - 4:37 am

      Heyyyy bro! We have to get that racing team of ours up again! 😀 Nice to see youre fine! See you soon again!

  187. #592 by DrChisel on 2011.05.21 - 9:26 am

    So when we pay the sub fee we will just be paying for Im until the actual world opens back up. So im wondering how far apart you think the ThereIM and actual world will be. Also ” Waddle over to the open button and well continue playing” 😀

  188. #593 by alexandria3178 on 2011.05.21 - 9:18 am

    OkOkOkOKOk… Here is a question not addressed… You said that basicallt There would be shiney and new and clean, and that we would get what was essentially a new avatar, but would have everything transferred back to us upon request.

    What about our nametag colors? I was born Orange, and wish to die Orange. When I am re-incarnated into the new There, will I have the same nametag color? God forbid if I were to re-incarnate as an OLIVE nametag… EWWWWW

    Seriously, will we still have the same color?

  189. #594 by satarell on 2011.05.21 - 9:07 am

    😮 not my dog he would never forget me

  190. #595 by Sunny Music on 2011.05.21 - 8:54 am

    Happy Happy, Joy Joy!!! 😀

  191. #596 by Doctor_Evil on 2011.05.21 - 8:47 am

    Wootage The Psycho House Lives on!

  192. #597 by Tiggy on 2011.05.21 - 7:29 am

    Breaking News:

    Latest photo from the Makena Server room… Vash making a last stand to Save There2 from invading Raptors!!!

    • #598 by ant1977 on 2011.05.21 - 11:08 am

      Looks to me like he is just trying to protect the Kitchen……’shrug

      • #599 by Tiggy on 2011.05.21 - 12:31 pm

        Unfortunately, the Raptors don’t have paintball guns… otherwise we could have sicked MW’s dog on em.. ROFL

  193. #600 by MikeLink on 2011.05.21 - 7:14 am

    I don’t understand the idea of opening ThereIM first, surely not everyone will want to pay just for the IM, will it be weeks, months, etc to the next stage or is it just going to be a couple of days.

  194. #601 by taylorleigh on 2011.05.21 - 7:12 am

    ok,,when in search,,whats the Name Now for THERE.COM???? <>>>> is it this one??? i am confused now????

  195. #602 by NurseJay on 2011.05.21 - 7:07 am

    Guess Ponder will have to re-Ponder who I am then… I hope he and Chelsea have been keeping themselves company in my hyper-sleep. Dogs gone ferrel, not a very good thought. I bet there is poop all over there!

    WHAT!?! you mean my quest is NOT STILL RUNNING??? Shoot! I had it set for the dogs to read, it was all in barks! You did mention quest kits.. ”’yay that means we will have them and they will function ”’yay ‘yay ‘yay. (I think it would be silly for us to think that the quests would still be running.) I know that quest kits were not transferable so even in the event of combining mules etc. I am guessing that those would still not be able to be passed, unless someone decoded the spiderweb that held them together and made it more-better while there was sleeping.

    Who would have thought that of all the things to miss, that I would miss world physics! My H.S. Physics teacher certainly would NOT have guessed that!

    Been practicing my velociraptor jumping, just in case of a world wide velociraptor event! Maybe some there-velociraptors can come and take us all home! I just hope they don’t rip us apart in the process.

    Thank you Mr. Wilson, for all that you are doing! It is greatly appreciated by many.

  196. #603 by Antaios on 2011.05.21 - 7:03 am

    With this all happening.. and such a time cap between logins will you have a setup so people can get their user names and passwords? or maybe have all that sent to the email register to the acct? what is the direction on retrieving these things.. I know I changed my passwords alot and will be looking at activating all my accts for atleast a month and I’m not going to remember each one.. i do think i know my main acct password

    • #604 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.06.13 - 12:27 pm

      I think I read on another post that they never saved any of anyone’s passwords when they closed up the servers. I’m not sure I’d want them to, that seems like it would leave them open to a Sony.

  197. #605 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.21 - 6:44 am

    Awesome! Thank you Mr. Wilson for doing this for us. I know a lot of members who were disappointed that There closed, but I believe it was in best for everyone that it was closed, so that you could work on the issues we had in There that you weren’t able to fix. As for paying a monthly membership as you know there was a issue with SONY with them being hacked with that a possibility that people’s personal information were taking including there credit cards. Do you think it’s possible if we could purchase Ultimate Game Cards to pay for the monthly membership as well as buying Therebucks? If I have to, I would use my debit card, but I personally be most comfortable if we could use the game cards. Also, do you have a rough idea as for the ThereIM requirements would be?

    Thank you again Mr. Wilson for your time.

    Enjoy your Memorial Day Weekend! 🙂

    • #606 by taylorleigh on 2011.05.22 - 8:10 am

      yes,,,was wondering that too about Utimate Game Card…I always used that too Buy There Bucs..Think its much safer ..

  198. #607 by Regrow There on 2011.05.21 - 6:32 am

    Perhaps naive of me, but I am starting a discussion group on how members can help promote There once it reopens. Anyone and everyone is allowed to post, but what we should be looking for are ideas that we can work with to help us promote the virtual world we love.

    I think we will have better luck with this after There reopens and we get a general idea of what we have to work with, such as invite links, membership packages, etc.

    • #608 by M0NTE on 2011.05.21 - 8:55 pm

      Wondered the same about how to best spread the news about There. I think the quickest way would be for MW & staff to throw together an Official Facebook page. I’m guessing that most everyone reading this blog is on Facebook and would be the easiest way for us to share There with all our friends. Would also be an easy way for MW & staff to keep us informed of There news and events both now as we (im)patiently await the re-opening and in the future when There is fully up and running.

  199. #609 by HighFlier on 2011.05.21 - 6:30 am

    Sort of like an Ole Scion going to the repair shop. I remember when I was a youngin waiting for my first car to come out of the repair shop after a small accident. That thirty days seemed like a whole year at the time. This sort of has the same feel but It’ll be well worth the wait.

    • #610 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 11:59 am

      WOW that was one hard radio. lol

    • #611 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.21 - 8:13 pm

      Good times…good times… 🙂

  200. #612 by Michele on 2011.05.21 - 6:30 am

    I’m very glad for those who can come back 😀
    So apparently I cannot play since I’m not 18 -.-… That’s okay. I’ll survive a few more years ^^….
    As for the rest of you platers, I’m really happy for you! You got your dream to come true!!

    • #613 by Jill Rick on 2011.05.22 - 8:11 pm

      That was a very sweet and mature comment, Michele. I hope the return of THERE lasts long enough for you to be old enough to return to world. You sound like a super person to know.

  201. #614 by Taelos on 2011.05.21 - 6:01 am

    How about Neighborhoods? Or are they done way with? I hope not. They seem ideal if the rent for neighborhoods (24×7 type of properties) can be automatically deducted from what ever payment vehicle is registered with the owner account. Yes make it easy for us to give you money – lol

    I respectfully disagree with Majandi. What Michael is hopefully trying to leverage here is the “investment” individuals have in their previous There experience. This includes communities. Quite a few people are anticipating restoring what they had from a community perspective. Indeed there was is a wide spread expectation that the There database was “backed up” and not destroyed.

    So Michael you have a good idea about a moratorium on real estate. Perhaps give people a couple of months to check in and reclaim their neighborhoods? That way only those need to be restored. Is that a doable do?


  202. #615 by happycamel on 2011.05.21 - 5:51 am

    Wooohoooot! ”’yay 😀 — missed the world very much, enjoyed lurking the blog after closure, can’t wait to get in and run-stumble-fall-board-fly-drive, decorate my Tyr-house, pop-out pazs, books and quests, buy designer-stuff — woohoooot!
    (I know, it’s not yet There, IM first)

    Thanks so much!

    Quote:”We’re still working out “when” servers which hold PAZs and Real Estate will be “up” as opposed to “sleeping”. Unlike the old There, where we kept literally hundreds of servers running for places with nobody in them (for much of the time), the new There is only going to run them if someone is paying for them. So, if hood rental, or PAZ rental covers keeping the Cloud server up 24X7, then we will. Otherwise, we’ll have to work out a way to bring it up “on demand”.”
    Very thoughtful anyways, I had some remote (New Kansas) pazs out 24/7 so I’d love to see that happen again (but understand it could be costly) -> also in regarding to quests 🙂
    Question regarding quests: will every member-in-world have the explorer pack?


    P.S. Most excellent timing: holiday-bonus is on the way, will reserve some for There 🙂

  203. #616 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.21 - 5:41 am

    Quote from MW: “We are still working out PAZs, especially their placement. Here’s the issue: We can re-place the PAZ until it’s owner decides to re-appear in world, and re-claim their PAZ. Until then, the PAZ spot is “open”, which means someone else could claim jump them. We’re considering putting a moratorium on dropping PAZs, at least in those special places, until some amount of time has passed to allow the old owners to show up. Then, they’ll still have thier PAZ, but there’s no guarantee they will keep their place. That seems fair.”

    What about starting fresh with the pazes…They are in our inventory and we find new places for them..Could that be done?

    • #617 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 11:57 am

      Some of use want our old spots back!! ( In Zephyr )

  204. #618 by WikkedBliss on 2011.05.21 - 5:37 am

    Another month on SL?? **shudders** I hate you today MW…. LOL.. ok that’s not true.. thanks for the update! And thanks for trying to save the paz spot, whenThere closed we had a really really nice island all to ourselves and some friends and have had for some time.. so YAY! See you in Cosmo : )

  205. #619 by scroogeverse on 2011.05.21 - 5:30 am

    Wonderful news! I have been lucky this week. I have a new nephew, good news from the doc, and all the good news about There. Awesome \m/

    • #620 by franko on 2011.05.22 - 5:13 pm

      yeah i know i can care less about the there i/m so i will wait till the game comes out cause all i care about is my tagas,friends,and racing ofcourse lol

  206. #621 by Danielle--Ella882k6 in There on 2011.05.21 - 5:29 am

    What if you don’t want ThereIM, I never used it before, and I perfer not to pay for anything til I can actually get in game. If I choose to wait does that mean I won’t get my old Avie back, or Inventory?

    • #622 by Sabre on 2011.05.21 - 12:10 pm

      I’d like to know the answer to this as well! I already use messenger to talk to people from there and I would prefer to not have to pay for there until it came back.

      • #623 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.21 - 12:31 pm

        Then don’t join until the whole world re-opens.

      • #624 by franko on 2011.05.22 - 9:51 am

        wasnt there i/m suppose to be free? i think its crappy to pay 10 bucks just to talk in a i/m

      • #625 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 10:48 am

        Then, don’t join until the world opens.

      • #626 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.22 - 1:31 pm

        I’ll be more than happy to pay $10 U.S.D. to get ready for the actual world to open. At least MW will know who misses There the most!

      • #627 by Danielle--Ella882k6 in There on 2011.05.22 - 5:53 pm

        It’s not about whether I actually Miss There or not… because of course I do… My question wasn’t answered. The way it’s sounds from the post is that once you pay for There IM (because it’s going to be the first open) then you claim your avie name and send a request for your old inventory. But will I still beable to do that when game finally opens back up? Or does it NEED to be done in There IM stages of re-opening?

    • #628 by hugsalot on 2011.05.31 - 8:37 am

      ThereIM is actually a mini-there. It’s not just a text based IM client. You actually have an avatar and you see your friends avatars. Even ’emotes work with bubble chat floating over everyones heads, and every stands in a group (up to 7 people). But there is no environment, it’s like the load prep area in the matrix, it’s all white.

  207. #629 by Jessica_Dindal on 2011.05.21 - 5:16 am

    Aww, I wanted to start with no stats in fashion. That was fun leveling it up. :p

  208. #630 by Jakejackson on 2011.05.21 - 5:13 am

    Details, details, I am just glad we are back, glad to to pay and glad go home, LOL! Fix the barn door after the cows come home I am sure is fine with everyone. We just want to be There!

  209. #631 by JonmiChel on 2011.05.21 - 5:05 am

    Greetings MW,

    Fistly I wanted to say that Im SO excited that There is going to be re-opened!! I missed it so but cuz… I have to say that I moved into Second Life when it closed but have to confess that it isn’t as familiar, cute and good as There srsly…

    But now the question, MW there will be Island Guides or People who guides/help/welcomes new members?

    PS: Good thing about the +18 ! (Thanks god I turned 18 some months ago :P! XDDD)

    Thanks you!

    • #632 by mimi06 on 2011.05.21 - 10:27 am

      no guides or greeters to start 🙂

  210. #633 by missy on 2011.05.21 - 4:43 am

    will u let everyone in or will there be people banned from the begining

  211. #634 by dizzyone on 2011.05.21 - 4:36 am

    Thank you so much for the update…question that I’ve seen others ask and excuse me if it has been answered, I overlooked if so, but is there a way to roll back to the week before closing on inventory? I like so many others, after being told There would close and never reopen, acted like it was the end of the world and deleted most my inventory (including designer buggies) and around 100k in tbux :(. possible?

    • #635 by Sleestak on 2011.05.21 - 10:01 am

      I asked and he said no, and why would you delete the stuff? A year ago he did say there was a small possibilty it might reopen someday. I gave alot away in the last days but i dont regret it realy. I did save some stuff just in case. I still have a buggy track 🙂

    • #636 by ant1977 on 2011.05.21 - 11:20 am

      Only thing I gave away after the announcement, were my alt avies after I cleaned the inventory out of them. I figured the basic members could at least hear us instead of having to type all the time.

      • #637 by Amxscott on 2011.05.22 - 2:57 pm

        I kept everything, just in case, but i can not remember all the names of my alts plus which ones I used to store what stuff.

      • #638 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.22 - 5:17 pm

        Gr8Scott and Just_Scott are just a couple your alts that I knew about.

  212. #639 by SSBPD on 2011.05.21 - 4:32 am

    Hey MW, ThereIM you could take out any thing you want in your inventory? & how are you going to catch kids getting into There?

  213. #640 by EmmaJean on 2011.05.21 - 4:31 am

    What great news to wake up to. thank you. 🙂

  214. #641 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.21 - 4:28 am

    So, “My 14-year old dog could paintball better than you!” Too funny!
    On a scale of 1 to 10, your skills were right up there at -16.
    I’m sure Fido could defend himself better than you did.
    DON’T even tell us that your some old fart cuz you ain’t even close to that category!!
    “pathetic flailing around that some of you called “Paintball”.
    HEY, we worked really hard at honing those pathetic skills. 🙂
    This looks like a VERY fun There coming up !!

  215. #642 by Karen on 2011.05.21 - 4:24 am

    Sounds Exciting But What If My Grandaughter Who is 16 doesn’t Want to Return to And I used to go onto her Account as well, Can I take Over her Account? And I will be Happy to pay more to help Reopen. Thankyou for re-opening Micheal Wilson.

  216. #643 by Tgkhali on 2011.05.21 - 4:23 am

    Why can’t you reopen the world first after sorting the payment methods and servers out etc rather than ThereIM? just a thought…
    If you can’t, when will the world reopen? Any estimates?

  217. #644 by Taylor on 2011.05.21 - 4:07 am

    Ok, this may be that I’m dumb but I’m confused, once we pay the fee for subscription when doing this “There IM” do we not pay until there is actually re-opened or do we pay as soon as we re-claim our accounts on There IM?

  218. #645 by Sleestak on 2011.05.21 - 3:36 am

    im just shooting out ideas here , maybe there is a way you can allow more than one avatar per person but only one can be logged in at a time? If we try to log in with an alt it will tell us we must log out our other avatar, that way I can at least consolidate my belongings from the 3 avatars I have lol Just a thought

  219. #646 by VoniLei on 2011.05.21 - 3:33 am

    I’m going to have to go thru my old files and hope and pray I’ve got my There files intact on my old computer’s hard drive. I need my tracks and my favourites imported!

    • #647 by Susie Redlin on 2011.05.23 - 6:29 am

      I’m still in denial that There actually closed; still have it installed on my computer! I assume we’ll have a new client download tho.

      • #648 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.06.13 - 12:23 pm

        Ha! So do I! Desktop Icon still in the best spot, and still have a browser “There” folder filled with my favorite There pages. I never lost faith that There would be back 🙂 I see I wasn’t the only one!

  220. #649 by Marianne Mohr on 2011.05.21 - 3:31 am

    Thanks so much for the update and the team’s efforts! I realize you’ll incur “pre-opening salaries/expenses” again without income. Thank you for your additional investment in this project. If you plan a volunteer outreach or support community before opening – I’d like to sign up and contribute to “pre-opening” expenses with an early membership fee or even paid training (via teletraining?). There are many others who would be great contributors to such a cadre.

    • #650 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.21 - 5:56 pm

      Oh, I think that’s a great idea, Marianne! Michael, that should be your first thing: a sign-up page and a place for us to go ahead and pay 🙂

      • #651 by Rebecca McArthur on 2011.05.27 - 4:45 am

        I’d be interested in helping too!

  221. #652 by Rick on 2011.05.21 - 3:31 am

    so mr wilson do you think the loading items and etc will be faster now? also im hoping the system requirements remain the same

  222. #653 by SaltySilver on 2011.05.21 - 3:25 am

    Thanks for keeping us up on the events MW.
    @majandithere: The folks in Zephyr know who owns what and where.
    p.s Has anyone heard from WildBilly?

    • #654 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 11:54 am

      I was wonding the samething salty if not i can put one down for him and name it saved for WildBilly.

      • #655 by maverickfred on 2011.05.23 - 5:30 am

        and im still around i had a hood hope to get that back lol good to see so many people and mw great job .

    • #656 by Tiggy on 2011.05.22 - 2:40 pm

      I wonder if MaxSmoke’s monster build will be there again? Man that thing lagged everyone.

  223. #657 by mimi06 on 2011.05.21 - 3:13 am

    Thanks for this update 🙂 Couple of questions when you have time. will we still use wallet passwords when buying THERE buxs? Also Any idea if we can reset our main avatar passwords? Or is that all cleared from the system. I for the life of me can’t remember mine 😦 . I got lazy after the new system of just loggin in with saved info and not typing it for long time.. and I kick myself now for that.. If there is no way to retrieve passwords , no one to blame but myself.. and I will accept I will no longer be Mimi06 😦

    • #658 by Jordan on 2011.05.24 - 7:41 am

      Mimi! It’s great to see you hun. 🙂
      If you used the same Yahoo email adress you more than likely can recover your password from there. 🙂

  224. #659 by Fearlessgeek on 2011.05.21 - 2:57 am

    oh yeah Velocaraptors that would be awsome i hear they make really smart pets ..!!

    • #660 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.21 - 5:54 pm

      Yea, forget cats; now we want VELOCIRAPTORS!

      • #661 by Susie Redlin on 2011.05.23 - 6:26 am

        speak for yourself, Wendy. I still want cats.

  225. #662 by Bumpin42 on 2011.05.21 - 2:57 am

    MW i have alot of Pazes in Zephyr and i plan on logging in the second opens so i can get my same zephyr spots back. Now what if there`s a overload of people try to trying to do the samething? Lets just say after a hour i can`t get my avi`s back do to traffic so i could get my spots back., Well the traffic of people be a problem? and well i get my spots back?

  226. #663 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.05.21 - 2:52 am

    i cant wait to go home to my Villa!!!!!! 😀 4 people in a bed that was funny 🙂 lol!!!!!!!!! when will the There IM Be available michael

  227. #664 by Jennyw9wkids on 2011.05.21 - 2:39 am

    Thanks Mr Wilson for the update. I am SO looking forward to There reopening and seeing so many of my friends. There was my first Virt world I had been in. Nothing even comes close to it. You had spoiled me. ;P I am so gonna look like a noob when There comes back……I got rid of ALMOST everything I had. houses, Cloths, buggys Etc. LOL So it looks like you will be getting money from me again. Gotta get my things back. 🙂

  228. #665 by Jenzie on 2011.05.21 - 2:28 am

    Such great news, When There closed I experimented with other virtual worlds. None compared. I am happy to know you are giving it another try.

  229. #666 by toufovou on 2011.05.21 - 2:26 am

    Sounds good so far. Come to think of it, opening ThereIM first is a good idea. It’s like a preperation phase for us users where we can reclaim our avies and inventories and get ready to re-enter the world again.
    It could help handle the load and have things run smoothly!
    I know its too early but do you have some rough schedule in which you know maybe when There will open? Which month perhaps?

  230. #667 by moondustmadness on 2011.05.21 - 2:21 am

    Thanks for the update Michael! I am so THERE! I might even have to take a day off work for the grand re-opening. :0) *hugs* TO ALL OF MY HAPPY THERIANS I LOVE YOU!!!!!

    • #668 by karengaanderson on 2011.05.21 - 11:12 am

      This shows you how much this game has a big impact on all of our lives!!!

  231. #669 by Malingo on 2011.05.21 - 2:18 am

    Thanks for the PAZ-info. Sounds good if one will be able to re-claim the PAZ-spot for a short time at the beginning.
    /Malingo aka “Kangaroo”

  232. #670 by Tiggy on 2011.05.21 - 2:12 am

    “You will of course get your skills back, including the pathetic flailing around that some of you called “Paintball”. My 14-year old dog could paintball better than you!”

    Methinks the gauntlet has been thrown down….

  233. #671 by Rebecca McArthur on 2011.05.21 - 1:57 am

    Woot! Can’t wait 😀

  234. #672 by Okalnix on 2011.05.21 - 1:21 am

    1 (( We’re still considering the ideas of “Alternate Avatars” or “Mules”. Don’t have the answer yet, but we know it needs to be addressed. ))

    I got also other avies but if people making new avies and delete them after the play griefer type of avie to attack people.
    So wen the have made the name of that avie you cant not delete ,or only by the help desk of there only, or a delay delete say 1 week.

    2(( We have not considered unbanning anyone at this time.))
    Some times you need to give people a second chance.
    I have never be making problems btw.
    But wen I was on I ban people out the zone and let them back lather after some time, the become the best racers and friendy to.
    just a friendy helping hand for people the are now adults.

    Other info are great news to most of people.
    I am also very happy wen There re opening.
    Ty MW

    • #673 by Zroy on 2011.05.21 - 1:04 pm

      Nice to see you Oka.. i wish i can play again cause im 17.. and It will be 18+ only.. =(

      • #674 by Okalnix on 2011.05.22 - 3:27 am

        soon you be 18 wait just a little and your buddy’s are there wait for you, Dune Valley.

    • #675 by Maroan on 2011.05.24 - 4:24 am

      Hehe Oka, nice to see youre still going strong! 🙂 I cant wait either to see There reopen its world! See you soon again my friend!

      • #676 by Okalnix on 2011.05.24 - 9:59 am

        Cool I see you soon buddy, Lest start a buggy race on dune valley,mabley I can build some tracks to.

    • #677 by Kyrah on 2011.05.31 - 11:28 am


    • #678 by BillyBrauer on 2011.06.28 - 9:37 pm

      okalnix is a boss! Can’t wait to race u again, same with you maroan. Hope ya’ll been good can’t wait to see ya in game.

  235. #679 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.21 - 1:06 am

    end of jun? ykes… I thought that thereIM would at leas topen sooner than that… oh well. At least this way I won’t be tempted to let THERE interrupt my college coursework.

    • #680 by karengaanderson on 2011.05.21 - 11:10 am

      same here!!!

      • #681 by Kyrah on 2011.05.25 - 10:52 am


      • #682 by jimony on 2011.05.27 - 1:02 am

        I’m kinda glad those who don’t like paying don’t plan to join. I don’t want free-loaders causing it to close again.

  236. #683 by SassyBeMe on 2011.05.21 - 1:04 am

    I know I’m tired… As I recall how things were before, I’d imagine would be some what the same. When hoods and paz’s reappear they should reclaim the ground. When they return to owners possessions. As long as time would show paid. Any paz in the spot was of no use to the owner. So was easily removed by the hood or paz owner of the spot. LOL although I’m sure a fight will ensue.

    If I recall correctly you said just public areas would be first. Meaning some islands may not show up or at all this round? Or we see when we see? I suppose coke island and casmo will not be there any more since they were sponsor based? I don’t assume to know the contracts and such.. we were able to keep the nike stuff… are we keeping our coke stuff?

  237. #684 by CleonaHudsonTHere on 2011.05.21 - 12:48 am

    is Our avie is save???
    im afaraid if somone claim my avie :/ haha

  238. #685 by codeinc on 2011.05.21 - 12:38 am

    I would be very interested in signing back up! I assume my LIFETIME membership is still in good standing? If not, you can probably imagine many colorful places where I would suggest you stick your subscription plan.

    • #686 by Ailish on 2011.05.21 - 1:14 pm

      SOMEBODY didn’t do his research. NOBODY ANSWER THIS KID. Let him work it out himself. Also, hostility is soo last year.

    • #687 by VoniLei on 2011.05.21 - 1:37 pm

      Your “Lifetime” membership was valid for the lifetime of the game. The game failed, thus voiding your lifetime membership.

      It’s really leaving me quite incredulous at how many people want to jump right back into the same model that failed and led to our world shutting down.

    • #688 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.21 - 3:06 pm

      Your colorful suggestion is noted, now go away!

  239. #689 by majandithere on 2011.05.20 - 11:42 pm

    I think this is interesting:

    “We are still working out PAZs, especially their placement. Here’s the issue: We can re-place the PAZ until it’s owner decides to re-appear in world, and re-claim their PAZ. Until then, the PAZ spot is “open”, which means someone else could claim jump them. We’re considering putting a moratorium on dropping PAZs, at least in those special places, until some amount of time has passed to allow the old owners to show up. Then, they’ll still have thier PAZ, but there’s no guarantee they will keep their place. That seems fair.”

    I actually had expected the world to be cleaned up and everyone would be free to claim what ever space they arrived at first.

    Good for my Space PAZ, – bad for my Zephyr PAZ, trapped behind a quite senseless grey, floating stone wall in a huge empty space.
    Well, at least we have the chance to take over some spots at some point when the moratorium (<- very popular word in Germany in terms of shutting down nuclear power plants, BTW) ends and under aged' and non returnees' PAZs expire and turn them into something useful or at least nice.

    • #690 by NathanAvis on 2011.05.21 - 1:14 am

      Agreed. Either way, if you value your Paz locations best thing to do is sign up early and squat LOL!

    • #691 by Innie on 2011.05.21 - 3:50 pm

      I completely agree. We should start with a clean slate, IMO.

      • #692 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.05.21 - 5:51 pm

        I agree, too. World should be clean to start off. But hell, I’ll take it any way I can get it 🙂

  240. #693 by Riot on 2011.05.20 - 10:29 pm

    Velociraptors can’t handle door KNOBS, but if you have fancy little handles you better find a new place to hide. Haven’t you seen Jurassic Park?! Gosh.

    • #694 by SoledadNegativa on 2011.05.21 - 5:59 am

      “including the pathetic flailing around that some of you called “Paintball”. My 14-year old dog could paintball better than you!”

      Mount up see you there Michael, oh and your dog.

      • #695 by ant1977 on 2011.05.21 - 3:42 pm

        No fret his 14 year old doggie will have to wait 4 more years to paintball in there… :o)

      • #696 by Tiggy on 2011.05.22 - 2:38 pm

        14 in dog years is what in human years… 70? Umm… is his dog a beagle, by chance?

      • #697 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.22 - 5:16 pm

        Not sure what breed of dog Mr. Wilson has, but if it’s a Beagle I’m sure it has more energy than any of us… My Beagle is 2 and she wears me out all the time, always needing to chase something or wanting to play in the lake. I can not keep her out of the water!

  241. #698 by Pole_Ice on 2011.05.20 - 10:21 pm

    Sweet thanks Mr. Wilson! I can’t wait for the Rapture to come and go so we can just do like 1994 and get on with our lives 😀

  242. #699 by There Lover on 2011.05.20 - 10:21 pm

    Thanks MW for the update great to hear! So glad you guys have already gotten things sorted out some what. I Look forward to buying a 6 month plan the minute I recover my account!

  243. #700 by Sonoma on 2011.05.20 - 10:11 pm

    first 😀

  244. #702 by Koala07 on 2011.05.20 - 10:08 pm

    I am so looking forward to get my Geo Dome back 🙂

  245. #703 by Pole_Ice on 2011.05.20 - 10:03 pm

    So what are the details about our belongings? Just curious as you’ve left your post hanging at “Now, for some details about your belongings:” Curious to see whats next! lol 😀

    • #704 by marr1anne on 2011.05.22 - 12:01 pm

      Look on there 2 questions and answers 🙂

      • #705 by AMER_321 on 2011.06.04 - 9:32 pm

        looooooooooooooooool XD

    • #706 by des02 on 2011.05.23 - 9:14 am

      OK I just have a couple of questions for you MW,you said that the there IM will be open at the end of June and we can sign up and PAY THE SUBSCRIPTION FEE but does the membership start right then ??? or does it start when There reopens.And I know there’s people out there that need to know what to do if they forgot there password to sign on??? Can you send a new PW to there email addy??? TY des02

      • #707 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.23 - 9:24 am

        Yes, ti starts right then.

      • #708 by Drakez on 2011.05.26 - 5:15 am

        OMG, grammar nazi Mr. Wilson made a typo. I’m astonished.
        Kiddin’ Michael, lol.

      • #709 by Secrets of Vonira on 2011.05.30 - 8:25 am

        Hey MW.. Hope you’re able to answer this question… How is billing going to be handled? Will it be pro-rated? Will every single person pay on the same exact date (for example, 1st of every month), or every 30 days after the date their first payment is made (for example, user a signs up and pays on the 7th, user b signs up and pays on the 11th.. user a will pay the 7th of every month and user b pays on the 11th of every month)? This would be critical information for some of us to know when bank accounts need to have this money in them.

    • #710 by Johnson on 2011.05.27 - 4:44 pm

      Anyone know about banned names, If it’s like the rapture that never happened, where said banned “names” are given a second chance? I was banned, but. I had reasons too. I was taking it for granted. Anyways, just curious. I’d like to see there welcome back EVERYONE banned or not, as long as their over 18. I’d like to come back, so tired of every other game.

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