Update 2011.08.07

From Dan:

Status Update: Bruce did his magic and switched us to Amazon SES and it looks like our email worries are all in the past. At least THAT set of worries. We also have to adapt to the new reality of “There is no ThereMail” (by which I mean you will no longer be able to send email directly to avatarName@there.com, and will have to use a webapp to do that sort of thing. And I’m hoping that if you DO try to send mail to avName@there.com we will send you an auto-reply with a link to the webapp, maybe with your stuff pre-filled-in)… Not QUITE as nice, but I’m sure everyone remembers how unreliable/slow the old ThereMail was.

I’m going to give Dan the OK to turn on self-invites for ThereIM only as soon as he’s ready. Repeat: ThereIM Only.

This doesn’t mean that everyone will get invited as soon as they self-invite themselves, especially if they’re at the “back of the line”.

We’re going to let the invites out a little at a time until we’re sure everything is going ok.

Just so everyone knows, the last bit of trouble wasn’t in There’s software, it was getting around the various email issues in today’s world.

Finally, even though ThereIM is free for now, it won’t be forever. Once we start charging for There, we’ll be charging for ThereIM. ThereIM is just a tool for accessing the service, which is what we’re charging for.

  1. #1 by Lee Watkins on 2011.08.08 - 9:07 pm

    ok you rock and thank you for doing this you have made my year πŸ™‚ you rock michal wilson i had a dot in the wrong place

  2. #2 by Lee Watkins on 2011.08.08 - 8:25 pm

    HTTP connection to port 52311 failed: connection timed out (for /login/avatarlogin?avdoid=0&avname=cometoplay&password=********&loginoverride=0&noinstantiate=1&clientname=ThereIM&clientversion=im-2.0.9240r00) for authDoid 1, host, service “login”, command “avatarlogin”, query “avdoid=0&avname=cometoplay&password=********&loginoverride=0&noinstantiate=1&clientname=ThereIM&clientversion=im-2.0.9240r00″………………. im am getting this when i try to log into there there im could someone help me please

  3. #5 by calliekitty on 2011.08.08 - 12:55 pm

    Can someone help me please? I received an invited but due to loosing my old computer and all the stuff on it…I no longer have my password for my old Avatar….(I’m crying here)!!!

  4. #6 by calliekitty on 2011.08.08 - 12:22 pm

    My problem is….I just cannot remember my old password. My old computer that had it, was KILLED by BEST BUY!!! I do however remember my nic, and e-mail.

  5. #7 by Abby on 2011.08.08 - 11:33 am

    Okay big problem here. I remember my name, but I can’t remember my password, and I have a new email now, and I can’t remember my old email so…ugh..

  6. #8 by Abby on 2011.08.08 - 11:22 am

    What about those who would like to make a NEW avatar? 😦

  7. #9 by Diatribe on 2011.08.08 - 11:18 am

    Woot!!! I got in!! πŸ˜€

  8. #10 by Joel on 2011.08.08 - 11:09 am

    You cheeky guys… “Sorry! Something went wrong!” Pahaha.. “Sorry to tease you, but apparently we’re not sending any more invitations at this time. Please try again later.”

    Guess I missed the first round then.

  9. #11 by GreenAngel on 2011.08.08 - 10:58 am

    Wow!!! I am getting goose bumps thinking that very soon I will be back home again. Yeah, great job MW and team

  10. #12 by Tre_Ghost on 2011.08.08 - 10:37 am

    lol am I guessing right, we’re all reloading there.com every 3-5 minutes waiting for a change aint we haha I know I am

  11. #13 by Π”ΠΆΠΎΡˆΡƒΠ° Π›Π΅ΠΉ on 2011.08.08 - 10:35 am

    Thanks for bringing THERE back. Me and my wife enjoyed it very much, but in process of buying a new house we were not around for the last month of THERE and were heart broken to come and find it had closed. I know it had to to restructure (close due to income and to bypass former setup of cost and such / kids) and such for am a business man myself and in this economy many things have had to make drastic changes to survive. Just wanted again to say thanks for though it is a business, many of us looked at it as our bit of relaxation and fun time to spend with friends and family that we don’t get to see all to often. Hope that it excels and grows and becomes better than before with many more members that are actively apart of it and supporting it into new areas of advancement. Have a great one everybody .. have to actually get to work now lol On a side note… thanks Mr. Michael Wilson.. you were my excuse to get a new pc and am loving it.. no more Windows Vista. So what you want for Christmas? lol

  12. #14 by mushh on 2011.08.08 - 10:33 am

    In Second Life I can elect to have my IMs logged, along with chat, and also elect to have my IMs forwarded to and from my email when I am not in world. SL redirects these emails so neither party sees the RL email adr of the other. It seems to work well. So, it can be done, and can be integrated with in world IMs. Just FYI.

  13. #15 by Basya on 2011.08.08 - 10:23 am

    Fantastic news! I shall be checking this blog and the There website quite often the next few days anticipating the opening!!

    Thanks so much to MW and the rest of the crew and all the GP’s for this new beginning and the return of our glorious world!

    Cya in There!



  14. #16 by RAY on 2011.08.08 - 10:13 am

    does this mean that 10.00 for there and 10 for there im so 20.00 a month for the 2 ????

    • #17 by Tre_Ghost on 2011.08.08 - 10:35 am

      no, he said thereIM is a part of the service, and they r charging for the service

    • #18 by Jordy26 on 2011.08.08 - 10:36 am

      No $10.00 total. Pay that and you have access to both services, ThereIM and the world (when available). But its free for now until they are both ready.

  15. #19 by Tre_Ghost on 2011.08.08 - 10:10 am

    To help with a few people’s questions I see, self invite will most likely mean you enter info, they email you the link to download thereIM, etc. ThereiM will be included in the 10-15 per month charge is what he meant by it won’t be free, when you pay for there you’re paying for all reg services I assume. Hope this clears up a few things, I think MW has been busy lately cause not a lot of replies.

  16. #20 by JonmiChel on 2011.08.08 - 10:03 am

    Wooohooo!!!! That sounds so freakly AWESOME! Something says we’re going to be THERE this weekend ❀

  17. #21 by Michelle on 2011.08.08 - 10:00 am

    Thanks for the updates! Can’t wait.

  18. #22 by Evelyn Ross on 2011.08.08 - 9:48 am

    Good to hear it

  19. #23 by blahhhxo on 2011.08.08 - 9:16 am

    Soooo excitedd. Can’t wait!

  20. #24 by OzGate on 2011.08.08 - 9:02 am

    Where does one download the latest ThereIM?

  21. #25 by _Taz on 2011.08.08 - 8:47 am

    Anticipation can’t fill up any more than this.

  22. #26 by justagreatguy on 2011.08.08 - 8:11 am

    How do we get a self invite for ThereIM when it’s time? Will there be a link on There.com?

  23. #27 by Punkster OfThere on 2011.08.08 - 8:10 am

    Just waiting for the world to open back up. But thanks for the update!

  24. #28 by Santacroce on 2011.08.08 - 8:05 am


  25. #29 by Tatanto09 on 2011.08.08 - 8:00 am

    how can I pay the $10 if I just have a bank account using another way instead Paypal? I’m from south america

  26. #31 by xMelodyChasex on 2011.08.08 - 7:34 am

    Best update we’ve gotten so far!! Woo hoo!!

  27. #32 by justagreatguy on 2011.08.08 - 7:21 am

    GREAT NEWS!!!!

  28. #33 by David Gill on 2011.08.08 - 7:17 am

    Add me to the group that is willing to pay for there. trying to wait patiently for there to open.

  29. #34 by NigelBlackthorne on 2011.08.08 - 7:14 am

    What is the process for self-inviting to ThereIM?

  30. #35 by RRTT on 2011.08.08 - 7:12 am

    Will the self invite link be on this blog, or on There’s homepage, or both?

  31. #36 by Tre_Ghost on 2011.08.08 - 7:05 am

    One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.

  32. #37 by mmeodiles on 2011.08.08 - 7:03 am

    Now for all of us anxious Thereians out here waiting for the ThereIM to open up for us…Here is a waiting song!!! πŸ˜‰

    • #38 by Basya on 2011.08.08 - 10:20 am

      Oh, Odile — how appropriate! Great Sing!

      This song really takes me back! Our ground chief on the Hairier Legion Flight Team in There (Superbear) was always telling us, “Don’t worry, Be happy!” So I wound up making a tee shirt with that theme!! Once we’re allowed to relist our designs, I will relist it — see me, and I shall give you one!!

      Cya in There very soon!!



      • #39 by mmeodiles on 2011.08.09 - 1:34 am

        Hey Basya..So nice to see you here…I am going to add you today, I saw you got into the ThereIM…yah…and yes, will do when we get into THERE….will be great to see you and have fun….I will get to see my great Basya buggy once again too…hugs and see you THERE~

    • #40 by IMAKOS on 2011.08.08 - 10:59 am

      haha, I loved it.. I could tell you had fun making it as well.. thank you !! it put a smile on my face.

  33. #41 by Dean Caballero ( Bumpin42 ) on 2011.08.08 - 6:59 am

    Great News Mw, Thx again.

  34. #42 by vexity on 2011.08.08 - 6:57 am

    sounds like there might be two charges. one for there IM and on for there. True or false?

  35. #43 by AnOldDeveloper on 2011.08.08 - 6:51 am

    I love what you guys are doing! This is very exciting πŸ˜€

  36. #44 by Emma There on 2011.08.08 - 6:41 am

    ditto that… ‘woohoo ”’yay!

  37. #45 by blackmamba619 on 2011.08.08 - 6:40 am

    Oh yay so excited

  38. #46 by xeroxcopy on 2011.08.08 - 6:39 am

    Finally, even though ThereIM is free for now, it won’t be forever.

    Does that mean the GP’s have to pay first?

  39. #47 by 2_fast_for_u on 2011.08.08 - 6:36 am


  40. #48 by Jordan on 2011.08.08 - 6:35 am

    Great progress guys. πŸ™‚

  41. #49 by Innie on 2011.08.08 - 6:34 am

    Thanks for the update Michael.

  42. #50 by carlos on 2011.08.08 - 6:22 am

    kewl!!! cant wait πŸ˜€

  43. #51 by n3rd_status on 2011.08.08 - 6:18 am

    Congrats on working out all of the Email factors so quick! can’t wait to see there central for my self again!

  44. #52 by Alan on 2011.08.08 - 5:54 am

    Yay can’t wait to see the new IM.thanks MW

  45. #53 by superdale on 2011.08.08 - 5:48 am

    the back of what line . im not in a line that i know of . can some tell me what line????????

  46. #54 by frankprss on 2011.08.08 - 5:36 am

    forgot password function? πŸ˜€ sorry i ask every time but still!

  47. #55 by Paulerbear on 2011.08.08 - 5:15 am

    yay! πŸ™‚
    great job MW!

  48. #56 by Abby on 2011.08.08 - 4:50 am

    Which is when? :O

  49. #57 by Gail M Feldman on 2011.08.08 - 4:38 am

    pardon my ignorance, and woo hoo while i’m at it, but where would we go to self-invite? yes, i know, not right this minute, but when it’s up, then where? and do we then download thereim somewhere? i am on a different computer already: no thereim, no old there, on this one.


  50. #58 by SAmmyy on 2011.08.08 - 4:29 am

    Hey is the reclaim new password functionality working ? i am not able to retreive passwords for any of my avatars

  51. #59 by RockinWolfman on 2011.08.08 - 4:25 am

    wait so youll be charging 10$ a month for the 3d world, and 10$ a month for thereIM? 20$ a month?

  52. #60 by SAmmyy on 2011.08.08 - 4:24 am

    You mean thereIM will be free for sometime ?

  53. #61 by Esky on 2011.08.08 - 4:19 am

    ”’Yay!!! Great news! Looking forward to it…

  54. #62 by ForTehLulz on 2011.08.08 - 4:08 am

    When will self inviting happen and how would we do that? The claiming of the old avatar on the There.com website?

  55. #63 by SnyperFla on 2011.08.08 - 3:55 am


  56. #64 by Rakja on 2011.08.08 - 3:53 am

    Fantastic New!!! Sounds like a great work around with the email. (Is someone channeling MacGyver over there???) Very exciting to be so close to IMing again!

  57. #65 by Mr_Donenzone on 2011.08.08 - 3:35 am

    Finally! Were almost there! (Pun intended)

  58. #66 by Cerenela on 2011.08.08 - 3:26 am

    Great news, I can’t wait ^^

  59. #67 by MrScrooge on 2011.08.08 - 3:25 am

    Another step taken and another step closer!

  60. #68 by acemastter on 2011.08.08 - 3:22 am

    good new good news thanks u all for working so hard and cant what to get back to playing there one day but take as long as u need to get it all right its bean a year of no there.com a little longer wont kill us lol i just don’t know what i’m going to do first when the world does reopen lol but first things first thereim and geting to chat with old friends =) good job and keep it up

  61. #69 by Cwby4ever on 2011.08.08 - 3:21 am

    supercalifragilisticallyexpadoesus or how ever you spell it.

  62. #70 by Andrew Harris on 2011.08.08 - 3:17 am

    Thanks for all your hard word MW! Also big thanks to Bruce, Samsyn and all the GPs!
    This has been the time we have all been waiting for.

    Everybody, get their debit cards, credit cards, clams (for your Flintstone fans) or sheep ready (for your Capital One AD lovers) for withdraw from the ATMs! This is going to be a blast πŸ™‚

  63. #71 by Rose Blossom_Videa on 2011.08.08 - 3:14 am

    What a glorious day!

  64. #72 by Joel on 2011.08.08 - 3:09 am

    Sounds fantastic! Time to stalk There.com 24/7 until the self invite section pops up πŸ˜‰

  65. #73 by Chagall on 2011.08.08 - 3:03 am

    Great news and great job, guys!
    Sooo… How does self-invite work?

  66. #74 by lionsheart on 2011.08.08 - 3:00 am

    thankyou for the journey following this blog and around of applause for all the hard work done by yourstaff .
    make sure you treat the staff to good night out on the town

  67. #75 by Heather on 2011.08.08 - 2:48 am

    LOL Guess I already tried to jump the gun, still says its blocked to invites only.

  68. #76 by jonathan5k2006 on 2011.08.08 - 2:47 am

    Woot :)))

  69. #77 by zandarkei on 2011.08.08 - 2:45 am

    Yay! ‘tu

  70. #78 by Seth on 2011.08.08 - 2:44 am

    How do I make sure There.com has my email to send me a invite when they are sending them out? thanks

  71. #79 by Mark B. (Cowbellwalken) on 2011.08.08 - 2:41 am

    *Wipes tear*

  72. #80 by joseph on 2011.08.08 - 2:30 am

    where do i go to use there im

  73. #81 by ImageMaker on 2011.08.08 - 2:04 am

    WooHoo is right — self-invites to ThereIM! πŸ™‚

  74. #82 by scrapbug on 2011.08.08 - 1:59 am

    YAY!!! Guess my plans for the day are go to school and to continuously check the There.com website for invite change LOL!! Oh the butterflies I am sooooo excited! LOL

  75. #83 by mimi06 on 2011.08.08 - 1:51 am


  76. #84 by AlwaysAngie on 2011.08.08 - 1:30 am

    I don’t remember ThereMail 😦 Are the hotmail issues fixed?

  77. #85 by lela woodrd on 2011.08.08 - 1:28 am

    THANKS for all your hard work

  78. #86 by lela woodrd on 2011.08.08 - 1:27 am

    Thank you for keeping us informed…looking forward to a new There..with old friends..THANK YOU

  79. #87 by sanagustin on 2011.08.08 - 1:01 am

    Oh yeah ;D thanks Michael.

  80. #88 by martin71 on 2011.08.08 - 1:00 am

    sweet look forward to hearing from you will it matter if i have forgot your password for thereIM??


  81. #89 by Adam Macy on 2011.08.08 - 12:51 am

    now its the wait for the invite

  82. #90 by Ethan on 2011.08.08 - 12:35 am

    Thats awesome, great job guys.

  83. #91 by Like_a_bossx on 2011.08.08 - 12:31 am

    OMG thank you so much for keeping us updated πŸ˜€ and thank you for bringing our home back for everyone. πŸ˜€


  84. #92 by trevor9393 on 2011.08.08 - 12:30 am

    Such a great step!

  85. #93 by kazenoai on 2011.08.08 - 12:07 am


  86. #94 by Indy_Lou on 2011.08.07 - 11:41 pm

    Super Great News!!! Great job!

  87. #95 by Hexxxis on 2011.08.07 - 11:41 pm

    awwwwyeaaaaa πŸ˜€

  88. #96 by Brandyn Rlp There on 2011.08.07 - 11:22 pm

    Thank you MW and the team at Makena Tech.! I’m excited to see the Self Invite button! ‘tu
    I’ll be up until that button is posted! πŸ™‚

  89. #97 by neckrr on 2011.08.07 - 10:58 pm

    good job u guys ur doing a good job keep the hard work up and cant wait to hear more

  90. #98 by Narwhal bacons? on 2011.08.07 - 10:52 pm

    Can you please explain better what “self-invitation” means, it is a little unclear what is exactly going on.

  91. #99 by Raymond on 2011.08.07 - 10:47 pm

    OMG This is great news! Thank you MW for you and your teams hard work at pulling this off!

  92. #100 by Diatribe on 2011.08.07 - 10:47 pm


  93. #101 by kevman95 on 2011.08.07 - 10:33 pm


  94. #102 by JoAnn on 2011.08.07 - 10:17 pm

    Thanks for the update πŸ™‚

  95. #103 by Steven Fisher on 2011.08.07 - 10:14 pm

    nice !!

  96. #104 by Lilia on 2011.08.07 - 10:09 pm

    How are these ” self” invites going to work?

  97. #105 by Ant1977 on 2011.08.07 - 10:06 pm

    Greatly appreciate this news MW, Thank you very much.

  98. #106 by Helhound on 2011.08.07 - 10:05 pm

    BRING IT ONNNNNN! πŸ˜€ lol

  99. #107 by INVU34 on 2011.08.07 - 9:58 pm


  100. #108 by JoshuaRay on 2011.08.07 - 9:55 pm

    Rtr So when can we download the there im?

  101. #109 by toufovou on 2011.08.07 - 9:54 pm

    Getting There!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! πŸ˜€

  102. #110 by Brett Peake on 2011.08.07 - 9:50 pm

    Thanks for all the hard work guys.. ya all rock πŸ™‚

  103. #111 by GaryBob on 2011.08.07 - 9:48 pm

    This is wonderful news! πŸ˜€

  104. #112 by Karmapup on 2011.08.07 - 9:46 pm


    • #113 by SoledadNegativa on 2011.08.07 - 11:25 pm


    • #114 by jakejackson on 2011.08.08 - 2:47 am

      Yes sir we are very close I can feel it!

    • #115 by IMAKOS on 2011.08.08 - 5:43 am

      I will second the ” Woohoo!!”

      • #116 by calliekitty on 2011.08.08 - 10:32 am

        Can I third that “Woohoo” and add a thank you so very much for all of the MW’s and his teams hard word!!

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