If we hide the bug up there, they’ll never find it…

10 years ago, someone put a bug in There.

That bug caused us to “leak” at least 8Mb (maybe 16Mb) of storage every time you teleported (we were failing to release a graster we created for the veil while you teleported). It may have been responsible for the “Leak every time you try and log in” bug, too.

Anyway, SamSyn fixed that tonight, and it will be included in the next client.

Oh, we uppped the login limit again, and we’re not going to tell you what it is.

Here’s SamSyn’s quote from his Facebook Post:

Wewt! We found (and fixed) the “servers busy” memory leak (that led to your client being almost out of memory by the time you finally managed to login). Another 10 year old bug! this was the memory allocated for the ‘veil’ being leaked, so it also happened for every teleport. I’m still not sure why the ‘veil’ texture needs to be the same pixel dimensions as the screen, when it is just ‘all black’ which could be done with a single pixel texture… but hey, who am I to challenge the wisdom of the gods.

Now, the client will still tend to grow its memory footprint as it encounters new textures in your travels about the world, so you will still run out of memory EVENTUALLY, but it should be much better. (once this client hits the streets)

  1. #1 by Matanda on 2011.12.30 - 8:04 am

    I have a serious problem with one of my avatars, i cant sort out the password and have tried every password i have in my memory and my scrapbook. Some will ask why is this one avatar so important and i can tell why. It is my everyday avatar i used for sosial and rasing and storing of many items. Without Matanda in game There will not be the same for me and my friends and i will hate to loose all the items i have stored on him. So please tell me there is a way to recover him. He was used back in time to buy therebucks so my personal name and info should be stored somewhere in the system. To ask for password sent to the email used for signing him up back in time does not work.

    • #2 by toufovou on 2011.12.30 - 11:57 pm

      Send an email to feedback@thereinc.com and explain the problem there. It’s the best chance you have when they find time to help you since they are very busy now

  2. #3 by l keen on 2011.12.17 - 9:45 am

    plz can i have at least a reply i paid my 10 dollers it got paid to there i logged in once but since then it says on the page world is open but when i try to log in it says world is closed plz plz an explanation would be nice

  3. #4 by l keen on 2011.12.17 - 5:41 am

    i have opened a paypal account they have tacken my 10 dollers but every time i try to log into there i get the world is closed plz can somone tell me why

  4. #5 by I forgot the original on 2011.11.15 - 3:49 pm

    would anyone be able to tell me how I can reclaim a old club?

  5. #6 by DirectX on 2011.11.10 - 8:14 am

    you’re welcome πŸ˜€

  6. #7 by Osee on 2011.11.09 - 6:34 am

    Anyone else having trouble with radio on comet? I put mine out and it 5 sec later gone.
    Also not sure where to report this, but everything else seems to work great.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  7. #8 by DarlingxNikki on 2011.11.08 - 10:21 am

    Still haven’t been able to log in, says full everytime. I’m trying to be patient though! πŸ™‚

  8. #9 by Linwood on 2011.11.07 - 2:48 pm

    This question has nothing to do with anything you really want to hear about right now but I thought I’d put the idea out there at least. Any chance we could get a racekit that included invisible gates (meaning no model) or possibly designer submit-able gates? It would be a nice for theme’d tracks and in turn could bring in more submission’s if we had user submit-able gates or if you went the invisible route, it would still preserve the drop limit for the zone so that people wouldn’t have insanely detailed and full funzones.

  9. #10 by Kattwomann on 2011.11.07 - 1:32 pm

    OK I’ve been holding it in and I can’t any longer…it’s time for me to whine!
    Please get T$ working ASAP! Katt is just not used to not having some available! I know that sounds spoiled but I worked hard to get my submissions to where they were before There closed. I am now to the point where I’ve spent T$ that aren’t mine, I think you know what I mean. I foresaw this WAY back when I was a guinea pig for ThereIM so I tried to buy T$. OK maybe it wasn’t the smartest thing to do in retrospect, but I was beta testing right? (and desperate?) So long story short, the money was taken out of my paypal…yep. I’ve sent my dues to There.com. I want some T$ and I am more than willing to repay for the ones I’ve already spent…just…let me!

    Please? πŸ˜›

    OK carry on!

  10. #11 by hawkeye_1 on 2011.11.07 - 10:37 am

    Hi, wanted to leave a comment about a real problem getting hawkeye_1 on the game. I’ve tried many, many, many times over a couple of days and have not been able to get on even once. a couple of other avatars have had little problem. I think maybe an avman is having problems but I don’t know the web address to check which avman that hawkeye_1 is on.

  11. #13 by timcraven on 2011.11.07 - 8:11 am

    when is the thumb nails on auctions going to be fixed?

  12. #14 by MollieJ on 2011.11.07 - 5:07 am

    I was wondering if it would be possible for two people to have a house together. As it is now if my daughter has the house and puts her stuff in it, I can’t put my stuff in it unless I give it to her first. So it would be convenient if we owned the house together, or each can put items into it. Don’t know if that would be too complicated, but would really like that option. Thank you.

    • #15 by Escape on 2011.11.07 - 10:48 am

      Owning a Clubhouse would allow all club members to have decorating privileges! ‘wave

  13. #16 by xSnoopy on 2011.11.07 - 3:21 am

    Good morning everyone,
    This is the week!! THIS IS DEFINITELY THE WEEK!!!!
    Michael, I know you guys are a little busy but I was wondering if Paiz is going to be returned to the same layout it was before closing or if you have different plans for it?
    42 is NOT the correct answer to that question πŸ™‚

    • #17 by ForTehLulz on 2011.11.07 - 9:04 am

      42 is the answer to anything.

    • #18 by Escape on 2011.11.07 - 2:58 pm


      Like Snoopy says, “This is the week”…. It’s in the air..

  14. #19 by Aradriel on 2011.11.06 - 6:42 pm

    Been getting into world reliably now that the cap is up with zero issues, aside from some lagging here and there as I load new areas but that’s to be expected. AWESOME job MW, Samsyn & team! Only thing I need now is billing & Tbucks purchase up, I want to rent my old ThereHouse and funzone again!

    So excited and happy to be back home!

  15. #20 by David H on 2011.11.06 - 6:22 pm

    Question, is the price of tbx going down? Pleeeease, pretty please πŸ™‚

    • #21 by Michael Wilson on 2011.11.06 - 11:33 pm


      • #22 by Kattwomann on 2011.11.07 - 6:09 am

        I really don’t think it would matter if the price did go down. People would just buy more and they would pay more T$ for the same items. When it comes right down to it I think most people automatically attach a RL amount to the item. And I’m no economics pro by any means, but lowering the value of currency will not lower the value of the items it buys.

      • #23 by NathanAvis on 2011.11.07 - 8:14 am

        Precisely, Katt. If people all round get the currency for less from the banker designers will just raise their standard prices to compensate. Used items might not see much change but new items definitely would.

        Real question is would changing the value change how much $ people pump into There.Com. Don’t think it would make a difference.

      • #24 by l keen on 2011.12.17 - 9:50 am

        mr wilson i am having real problems paid up there excepted i logged in my son then logged in to pay for his avitar since then neither of us can get in web page says world is open but when we log in it saYS world is closed HELP

  16. #25 by Cody902 on 2011.11.06 - 4:11 pm

    :O I was just decorating a PAZ at my old neighborhood Firecracker Funpark And Zoo (Cant wait until there opens and Suzy can buy it back) And SamSyn just shows up hes standing infront of my right now im like O_o

  17. #26 by martin71a on 2011.11.06 - 2:19 pm

    hi there im having problems with my radio near comet when i bring it out i only see it for 5 seconds and them poof its gone been like that for 2 days now is there away of sortin it ..

    and for the items that are missing in my invantory would they be a chance of getting them back at some point??

    many thanx


  18. #27 by Andrew Harris on 2011.11.06 - 9:39 am

    There is making me put off my purchase of a mini van so I can get a buggy first then a car in real life. I am getting testy over here but I will continue to wait.

  19. #28 by Hugsie on 2011.11.06 - 8:18 am

    Mah.. why does “Phoenix Park” have a chat box? It’s not a funzone, can we remove this?

    • #29 by Andrew Almeida on 2011.11.07 - 5:48 am

      Correct me if I’m wrong Hugsie but isn’t that the new name for Cosmo girl’s place? It wasn’t a fun zone either but it always had that chat box. I’m almost certain any place like it has one not just fun zones.

  20. #30 by Simon on 2011.11.06 - 4:58 am

    Just a quick question. Hope it can be answered.

    Will there be a certain time for members with lower fun passes to log in?

    My problem is, I have 2 accounts. My main one, and you could call it a spare (backup) one, however my backup hasn’t got a high enough fun pass to log in.
    I was hoping to be able to log into my backup one to transfer some things to my main one. Will there be a time for me to do this? (Without paying a months membership)

    Thank you.

  21. #31 by kazza123 on 2011.11.06 - 3:55 am

    great work guys but i have noticed that when i try brining my duke box out it goes poof and not working a few off my friends mine having same issue on comet aswell… anyone else having same prob ?…but noticed if you got one out already that do work its when you try and bring one out now very weired

    • #32 by Simon on 2011.11.07 - 8:44 am

      Yes i have same problem. Also when i try to change the station theres nothing which allows me to choose a station. I can only listen to them :/

  22. #33 by Rick on 2011.11.06 - 2:07 am

    Mr wilson, is paypal really going to be the only payment method?

    • #34 by Andrew Almeida on 2011.11.07 - 5:51 am

      Yes at least at first paypal will be the only method of payment as previously stated. However paypal accepts credit card payments without the need of an account and you can set up an account with a credit card as well as bank account.

  23. #35 by Kaleb on 2011.11.05 - 5:54 pm

    Anyone else get this problem? I set There to DX9 and a message pops up when I open There that says.. The Shader C:\Makena\There\ThereClient\resources\ren\ubershader.fx did not compile:

    • #36 by Kaleb on 2011.11.05 - 5:54 pm

      It is only when I set it to DX9

    • #37 by JasonMK on 2011.11.07 - 5:19 am

      I’ve also been getting the same issue, and I haven’t been able to resolve it. I have posted it here and sent an email reporting it about a week or so ago. Let me know if you find a fix for it.

    • #38 by Revelations on 2011.11.07 - 4:41 pm

      i had that prob and fixed it…the issue is actually with Windows7..it comes with dx 11, which isnt exactly reverse compatible. microsoft does have a free download patch to correct the issue, seems there was a few missing components to make dx9 work.

      • #39 by JasonMK on 2011.11.07 - 5:17 pm

        Do you have a keyword I can use to search for and find the fix from Mircosoft? A link would be even better…

      • #40 by JasonMK on 2011.11.07 - 5:34 pm

        I found a link in a forum users forum that pointed me to Microsoft’s website to download the web installer for DX9.0c. Seemed to do the trick, but the world is full at the moment. http://tinyurl.com/cvbxxmk

      • #41 by Revelations on 2011.11.08 - 2:19 am

      • #42 by luckyjunior2005 on 2011.11.08 - 12:50 pm

        This seemed to solve the problem for me as well. I no longer get the compilation error. I just cannot get into world at the moment to make sure it actually worked.

      • #43 by JasonMK on 2011.11.10 - 5:50 am

        I just had to do a format/restore and (oddly enough) this time around DX9 worked fien without the above “patch”. I don’t know if the latest v18188 adds the missing files or if some program along the ways corrupts the needed files. As I reinstall much of my software I will be curious what happens.

        (WordPress Login wasn’t working, so this is posted as Guest)

  24. #44 by Presence Johnstone on 2011.11.05 - 5:31 pm

    Loving it already! Thanks for open home back up to us! ! !

    Is there any word on a solution for us forgetfull people who lost our passwords, and in my case do not have the old e-mail address any longer?


    • #45 by Revelations on 2011.11.07 - 4:42 pm

      lol the word is “screwed”

      • #46 by Presence Johnstone on 2011.11.10 - 1:46 pm

        lol….. Another question. Who gives dim-witted answers?

        Answer: Dim-Wits! lol

  25. #47 by William Grass on 2011.11.05 - 1:29 pm

    How close is There to opening? Can MW or the phoenix team answer?

    • #48 by Michael Wilson on 2011.11.05 - 3:33 pm


      • #49 by William Grass on 2011.11.05 - 5:58 pm

        Sorry, I have never seen “The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy.” However, i did think that would be your answer. I bet that did bring a chuckle or to from some people.

      • #50 by Presence Johnstone on 2011.11.06 - 12:48 pm

        lol….. Just 42? Thats way better than say, 56….

    • #51 by iamsilverlady on 2011.11.06 - 6:28 am

      i to get the .Sorry World Full:evry time i atemp to log in, and i have a Platinum funpass.so i dont think it judt you funpass level thats stops you logging on, but I have to agree that it is very frustating to keep trying and not be able to get in the world. Let all hope it will soon be all systems go…….

    • #52 by silver on 2011.11.06 - 1:24 pm


  26. #53 by Moonlighttides on 2011.11.05 - 12:49 pm

    Not to make anyone angry, that really isn’t my intention. Regarding the “login limit”, I would almost say it be a good idea that everyone have a set time limit of how long they can play for a period of time. I’m only suggesting because I have tried logging in about every five minutes all day long and all day long it says the world is full. Instead of allowing people who might purposely keep the pop. full by never logging out, I think that maybe after two or three hours, people are bumped out, temporarily of course, so others who haven’t had much of a chance to go in world yet will have a chance. Again, I’m not trying to start a fight or anything. just wish I could play. 😦

    • #54 by BaphNagi on 2011.11.05 - 5:48 pm

      This they have been doing for a week or 10 days now.. Every 2.5 to 3.5 hours there is a flush where everyone is logged out to give others a chance..

      Really ANNOYING to finally get in after 3 HOURS of trying, then get hit by the flush in LESS than 5 MINITS, and then CAINT GET BACK IN!!! AARRGH!!

      This has now happened to me several times.. 3 TIMES TODAY!! And then I check MW’s blog and see people making complaints like this!! (Grrrrr)

      Keep up the good work, Team Phoenix!!


    • #55 by thereuser on 2011.11.05 - 7:13 pm

      They do log everyone out from time to time, which then opens slots for the ones who went afk while logged in.

    • #56 by Camel on 2011.11.05 - 9:39 pm

      They’ve already done this – everyone gets logged out pretty regularly. Of course, anyone who’s not idle will just instantly log back in, but it effectively clears out the idle avatars.

    • #57 by AquaFresh on 2011.11.05 - 10:34 pm

      Hi Moonlighttides,
      if your name on There also is Moonlighttides then I do understand why you can’t logon, but get “the world is full”

      By looking at your profile on There, I see you are silver funpass, you have to be Gold or Platinum level to login at the current moment.

      I have tried too with an alt that is only silver, and it just won’t login, so there is no need to keep trying, or MW to set a time limit (better spend it on coding and bug fixing IMHO)

      And they already have a forced logout to clear whole world, to let a new bunch in.

      They already have raised the number of people who can be in at same time, and its gotten a lot easier to get in now.

      You simply have to wait like all other non -gold and -platinum members.


    • #58 by Wendy Stoll (Wendy50s) on 2011.11.06 - 5:30 am

      People ARE bumped out, though I think the time limit varies. I could be wrong on that. Problem is, as soon as they are bumped, many people just log right back in. I’ve done it when I’ve only been in world for like five minutes…but I think there are some who are always in.

    • #59 by Kayleigh Lace on 2011.11.06 - 9:10 pm

      I’m assuming you have read the other posts where people have indicated that there are forced disconnects every so many hours? I also assume you are the correct fun pass level and have beta tested in the past – both criteria for being able to beta test now?

      I have to wonder at these people who attempt to log in (supposedly) every 5 minutes because I have had luck logging in at random times and then other random times haven’t logged in.

      And unless you have been banned, you’ll be able to play. This is just Beta…

      • #60 by Moonlighttides on 2011.11.07 - 1:14 am

        Nah I’m not banned. I was a good citizen of There. Me being only silver funpass cleared up why I couldn’t get in. Got my answer I suppose. Can I upgrade to gold?

        It really doesn’t matter anyway, when THERE opens for everyone, I’m starting over from scratch with a different avie. The name Moonlighttides lost it’s appeal to me.

      • #61 by NathanAvis on 2011.11.07 - 8:19 am

        Hey Moon. Can’t upgrade to Gold, only ascend to it. It’s a funpass level that you have to earn by skilling up.
        If this helps
        Casual – 5 Points
        Avid – 15 Points
        Expert – 45 Points
        Renowned – 135 Points
        Legendary – 405 Points

        Gold Funpass is approx. 405-430 points. When the world is fully open try getting to Gold and above, the rewards and account features make it worth your while πŸ™‚

    • #62 by Kayleigh Lace on 2011.11.06 - 9:13 pm

      I just randomly tried to log on – it’s 1:12 am EST – got on first try. Just saying…

    • #63 by Kayleigh Lace on 2011.11.06 - 11:23 pm

      And just one more comment – I can attest to the kicking off – happened to me. If you hurry – 2 spots are open now for sure. πŸ™‚

  27. #64 by Elliot on 2011.11.05 - 12:22 pm

    i have still not been able to get in due to the world being full 😦

    • #65 by AquaFresh on 2011.11.05 - 10:36 pm

      If you are elliot11 on There you can’t since you are only silver funpass.

      You have to be gold or platinum.


      • #66 by Moonlighttides on 2011.11.07 - 1:15 am

        Is an upgrade from silver possible?

      • #67 by AquaFresh on 2011.11.07 - 9:07 am

        Hi Moonlighttides,
        well to “upgrade” you need to work your skills and well for that you need to be online to skill up in vehicle skills and cards, club and so on, so no you are stuck with your silver funpass, since you need at least gold to login 😦


      • #68 by Elliot on 2011.11.07 - 1:36 pm

        Sadly that is me and I didn’t understand what a funpass was when it was mentioned in another post. 😦

  28. #69 by richard on 2011.11.05 - 11:59 am

    hi ya guys , when are you going to let in us bronze pass holders in to have a shot ….. i just want to have a go in THERE…. pls pls pls missing my home

  29. #70 by Orixx on 2011.11.05 - 9:09 am

    I seem to be stuck in an update loop of some sort. It just updates, starts the client again, does the same update, repeat.

  30. #72 by kazza123 on 2011.11.04 - 6:21 pm

    hi there i tped to the watering hole and had a run around then i think i come across a glitch or bug coz suddenly my screen has gone different coloured blues and i cant move cant tp anywhere no one can tp me either plus it shows no buddys online when there is and im stuck tryed relogging and still the same and i cant get out can someone help me please im truely stuck and cant get out off this even when i try relogging now nothing just blue screen thank you

  31. #74 by biggiedude420 on 2011.11.04 - 3:42 pm

    I keep getting sorry world is closed right now when i try to log in all day

    • #75 by thereuser on 2011.11.04 - 7:10 pm

      Sounds like your fun pass isn’t high enough. They haven’t said when they will let in the lower fun passes yet so look for that before trying again πŸ˜€

    • #76 by CardSharkRay on 2011.11.04 - 7:26 pm

      you have to be a gold pass to get in world right now

    • #77 by BaphNagi on 2011.11.04 - 8:08 pm

      `Looks like it needs re-iterating yet again..

      If you have a Bronze or Silver FunPass, you will keep getting the “Sorry, World is Closed” message!! You need to have a Gold or Platinum FunPass level to get in these days!! Wether or not lower pass levels will be allowed in however briefly before There goes public remains to be revealed…

      …..Steve987….. (still only a Silver, durnit!)

      • #78 by Andrew Almeida on 2011.11.05 - 6:25 am

        I’m silver and that aint the message I get. I get the full message, then one saying failed to connect to world to check my name, then one that tells me to be sure my name is right. But never a closed message.

  32. #79 by 0ne1 on 2011.11.04 - 3:25 pm

    I knew the “leak” had something to do with allocating memory for some large image (wrote about it on Thumdar’s forums). The error log said it failed to create a 2048 x 1024 texture because there was not enough memory. A 2048 x 1024 uncompressed bitmap image is usually around 8MB, and the “leak” was taking about 16MB each time you try to log in, so I figured that there was some type of double buffer being allocated for that image or something. Anyway, glad you found the leak. *thumbs up*

  33. #80 by Vaughn_2 on 2011.11.04 - 3:15 pm

    Had to reinstall there Client but it gives me an error and will not finish install,any ideas?

    • #81 by thereuser on 2011.11.04 - 7:13 pm

      Many can try to help, but we would need to know what error your are getting.

      • #82 by Vaughn_2 on 2011.11.05 - 3:07 am

        It completes install 100% complete then says thenkas for your patients while last parts of the world are being built,hangs up there and i get another pop up thats gives this error. Dowmload failed.transfere error: read 0 bytes,wrote0bytes in 0 loops.readErr: 12002,write:0. I have deleted all There folders and unistalled anything to do with There and tried reinstalling mnay times only to get this same error. im a beta member 2003,computer novice but this is driving me crazy, Any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks.

      • #83 by thereuser on 2011.11.05 - 7:18 pm


        ok that is weird… my guess is that your antivirus software is blocking it.

        uninstall again… and then grab the installer fresh from:


        before you install it jump into your antivirus and/or firewall program and remove any entries that were made for there, reboot and start the install.

        While installing make sure you ‘allow’ any there items that pop up in your antivirus/firewall.

        report back what happens!

      • #84 by vaughn_2 on 2011.11.06 - 12:28 pm

        Anybody??? I even cleaned my registry out,cleaned all cookies,deleted all There folders,defragged my hard drive,ran anti virus and maleware..Still get the same error..Sigh..mailed There for answers have not heard back from them yet.

    • #85 by FemSage on 2011.11.05 - 8:14 pm

      Try disabling your firewall and try again. Description of Error 12002: This happens when one of the Microsoft Windows HTTP Services (WinHTTP) fails in one of its functions. The Error 12002 is a Microsoft Win32 Internet API error code. This error means that the request has timed out and that the communication with the server has failed to be established. The error may occur when the connection is being blocked by a firewall. Also, there might be a proxy server that is preventing the file from being downloaded. It might also be caused by a temporary failure in the network.

  34. #86 by Debs4u on 2011.11.04 - 2:45 pm

    While on now I lost my action bar running Vista OGL Avman6…guys tahnks for all the hard work

  35. #87 by Diego on 2011.11.04 - 2:38 pm

    WTG, SamSyn!!

  36. #88 by William Grass on 2011.11.04 - 1:41 pm

    lol ijust reporte a memory leak and crash when i tp’d to duda….perfect timing.

  37. #89 by Hink on 2011.11.04 - 1:16 pm

    Michael, my account was closed due to unauthorized Purchases with my credit card. I received an email saying that my account would be reopened in 365 days. I then was told by a fellow user that, that means I won’t be getting back on? Is this true? What do I need to do to get my account reopened if it wasn’t banned for breaking any of the rules in There.com?

    (I posted this already on your last post, just wanted to make sure you saw it. I can’t wait to be back on.)

  38. #90 by daniel on 2011.11.04 - 12:18 pm

    hey guys. i have a horable joke. πŸ™‚ ok so theres two thereian in a buggy, there shotgun rider says (hey theres a smuge on your windshield. i think the developer must have made a mistake on it, drivers says o no thats just a car the flew into it. XD XD ROFL XD XD XD ROFL ROFL LOLOLOLOL

    you see its horable becasue i made it up.
    but still makes sence becasue cars in there are called buggies there for making the bugs(critters)=cars

    • #91 by jimony on 2011.11.05 - 2:33 pm

      Yes, it was horrible, LOL, but I get the joke. We’re turned around in There; a bug is a car so a car must be a bug. As a joke, it almost works.

  39. #92 by Wendy Stoll (Wendy50s) on 2011.11.04 - 12:04 pm

    You guys are SO AMAZING!!! And I got to play an entire game of spades last night, with old friends, and with nary a glitch! It was total happiness! Thank you thank you thank you!!

  40. #93 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.11.04 - 12:00 pm

    Okay, whether you answer me or not….I have to ask. What in the world is up with all the giant pickles in world? I’m seeing them everywhere! Is there a purpose??? haha!

    • #94 by Gordon Hard on 2011.11.04 - 3:35 pm

      Yankee….You are the only one seeing….as you call it….Giant Pickles….Would you like to report a Close Encounter?

      • #95 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.11.04 - 5:36 pm

        Gordon, drive into the water off of Duda Beach. A giant avie is drowning out there also, haha! They also are somewhere on a back trail around Zephyr…do you not explore?

      • #96 by JasonMK on 2011.11.04 - 6:21 pm

        Oh, I’m seeing the pickles too. Not sure if it is an inside joke or something less interesting. Regardless, it is feeling like the good old days with paz junk and clutter everywhere πŸ™‚

    • #97 by softNdark on 2011.11.04 - 5:08 pm

      @Yankee …….. I thought that bie pickle tree was so pretty, the whole area actualy. The owner should be Proud!

      • #98 by softNdark on 2011.11.04 - 5:08 pm

        oops… “big” pickle tree

      • #99 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.11.05 - 4:59 am

        SoftNdark, I’m just picking on them… I think its funny. πŸ™‚

    • #100 by CardSharkRay on 2011.11.04 - 5:13 pm

      there at the welcome center too right by the blimp lol a pickle blimp hmmm lets see did the blimp have a inconter with a pickle and now the pickle is there by the blimp hmm lets call it MW lmao jk

    • #101 by thereuser on 2011.11.04 - 7:15 pm

    • #102 by fulkenstien on 2011.11.05 - 1:25 am

      i dont know if it is still there but i saw a pickle stuck on top of the crystal tower on tyr.

    • #103 by alexandria3178 on 2011.11.05 - 9:17 am

      Samsyn….. I believe those are his…He used to set up wicked buggy tracks on Frosty Island…. and there were always pickles there… So if you want to know.. I would go ask him.

  41. #104 by Cynrhia Yonkers on 2011.11.04 - 10:27 am

    Oh I guess mw is getting tired of all this and I don’t blame him. Imagine trying to wade thru all this stuff. Any way, thank you for the work you and all your team has done. I am enjoying myself when I get in. And thank you for making sure it all runs right cause as I found out last night there are still major problems. Was playing spades and all of a sudden there was a There Quake. Avies went invisible, started chewing gum and tweeking around like crazy. We were outside of clubhouse even though said we were in. I am sure others reported this so I will not. Hey give him a break it is not perfect yet. They have a small staff, do you actually expect them to fix a cazillion problems all at one time? I said my stuff!! Be patient everyone .I guess a virtual world takes longer to create, and to fix.

  42. #105 by justagreatguy on 2011.11.04 - 9:51 am

    “Go SamSyn”
    MW, He needs a raise!

  43. #106 by OdileS on 2011.11.04 - 9:25 am

    Top 10 Requests from a survey taken while congregating in THERE:
    ~ 10 avies were present ~

    10) Nekkid avies :
    9) Sunburnt avies with bathing suit marks
    8) pazes with electric fences to fry avies that tresspass
    7) Bunny shoes on buggie tires
    6) Cats that annoy the dogs
    5) Rideable chickens that you ‘pluck’ to make them go faster
    4) Clothes that ‘fall off’ of the avies who jump from avie sacrifice,
    or who get ‘paintballed’, (scrapes and bruises) too
    3) Remote controls to ‘control’ and ‘take over’ other avies
    2) Trains that run over avies, and leave track marks
    1) More adult themes…why not go all the way???
    (booze, drugs & Sex)

    ~No avie was harmed in this survey!!!~

    *** Bonus Request: Most talked about: The driver of a vehicle can eject

    unwanted passengers…

    (Who were the survey takers??? Due to content…the 10 survey takers will remain annonymous)
    NOTE* I myself plead the 5th….

    • #107 by daniel on 2011.11.04 - 11:57 am

      i cant believe no one said supper supper bunnys. i know that befor there.com closed. alot of people were talking about it. but i dont believe what i dont see or have evidence for so MW or somone tell me if this was ever true?

      • #108 by thereuser on 2011.11.04 - 7:23 pm

        Have SamSyn show you his super super bunnies πŸ˜€

      • #109 by Suicidal_Psycho on 2011.11.05 - 7:59 am

        I did see the super super bunnies in There a few times , SonBlock was wearing them and they made him run like 3 times faster than super bunnies ! If you would shoot him with a PB gun he couldn’t be knocked down either !

      • #110 by Eatings, Sputters, Pneumonia, ect. on 2011.11.06 - 1:39 pm

        There were no Super super bunnies. I believe it was a rumor. As for SonBlock, Maybe he was just Avoiding your paintballs.

    • #111 by Barbie_Doll on 2011.11.04 - 2:04 pm

      Whats sad is its going to need 10 and 1 to survive. You can say the 18+ thing has to be done to make There possible but what worries me is that in reality its what will kill it.

      • #112 by Andrew Almeida on 2011.11.05 - 6:21 am

        Well since MW has previously said adults spend more and minors did not spend enough to even cover the costs being spent to watch after them, it’s safe to assume that won’t kill it. All those minors will be membership boosts in the coming years, cause oh yes they will still come after having to wait.

    • #113 by Hugsie on 2011.11.05 - 12:47 am

      Demand poseballs!

    • #114 by Eatings, Sputters, Pneumonia, ect. on 2011.11.06 - 1:37 pm

      I hope these requests are jokes. Otherwise, it’s a rediculous request. If you want stuff like that, go back to Second Life, or join RedLightCenter.

  44. #115 by kelayna on 2011.11.04 - 9:15 am

    ty for the update!

  45. #116 by softNdark on 2011.11.04 - 8:14 am

    Thank You SamSyn…
    Just Wonderful, each day it just gets better and better!

  46. #117 by Neema on 2011.11.04 - 7:59 am

    Wow, that is big news!! Nice to see you finally squashed (or minimized) that bug after so much time. Great work everyone involved!

  47. #118 by vursala25 on 2011.11.04 - 7:18 am

    Finally got my main avitar on today,it ran good for me,teleported too a few places,went too a spa,,worked great.. You guys,are the greatest..I thank you. I even transfered some things too my alt. that worked good too. Now,,just waiting for the Grand opening.. smiles:)

  48. #119 by Penny on 2011.11.04 - 7:12 am

    Oops!!!! spoke too soon, I just logged onto There and I am rubberbanding alot. I am at the astrology area and I am rubber banding a lot. I am going to try my laptop computer and see if my avie rubber bands.

  49. #120 by Penny on 2011.11.04 - 7:03 am

    Excellent work MW and Samsyn, We are almost there. There is doing great as far as i can tell when I log in.

  50. #121 by Thumdar on 2011.11.04 - 6:46 am

    I logged in last night and must say, I truly enjoyed myself. It was the first time in a while I spent more than 15 minutes in world. With more people may bring more technical issues for team Phoenix, but it also brings more fun for us end users. Last night it felt like There again! Even though team Phoenix is working hard and likely pulling out a little hair, I hope the fab four are having some fun, too. Ultimately it needs to be financially rewarding but the reviving and tweaking of the most enjoyable virtual world ever created must have its rewards. At least I would hope so!

  51. #122 by MrScrooge on 2011.11.04 - 6:30 am

    SamSyn is the MAN! Must feel pretty cool to fix a bug that old. Keep up the good work, Makena and Team Phoenix.

  52. #123 by Crawford Bob on 2011.11.04 - 6:14 am

    I have been in a few times and am totally impressed how well everything is working. I am using Windows 7 ultimate 64 on a AMD quad core with ATI 4600 series graphics. Four gigs ram.
    DX8 and DX9 both working good. Other than a few rubber band experiences, usually followed by the system now repaired box, all is very impressive!
    SamSyn and Bruce and whoever else behind the scenes..
    There should be a small memorial placed near Clucky for you guys. You really never will be forgotten. Thank you all.

  53. #124 by Revelations on 2011.11.04 - 6:06 am

    Sorry, I know theres probably a better place for this but I cant find it…. got the update this morning and got in word no problem…but when I went to re-log in, getting an error says the ubershader failed to compile??? wont let me get to the login screen

  54. #126 by IMAKOS on 2011.11.04 - 5:06 am


    lastnight I was playing around with My audio settings and completely lost voice ability , I was trying to stream audio though my sound card into There.

    I was able to do the Voice trainer but when I tried to speak to other members there was no white line or sound coming from my avatar.

    I am still ( when clicking on My things) crashing or go to a smokey white screen for about 1 to 2 mins .

    I still have issues in bring out objects from My things, example running and pulling out a pbgun .. I freeze and have to wait for the system to correct itself.

    IMAKOS ( Leilani)

  55. #127 by Francis_7 on 2011.11.04 - 4:31 am

    I am curious about the veil image that is all black. Is there really a different all black image for each and every screen resolution, or is it just one that tiles over and over at say 800×600 until the screen is filled with black?

    • #128 by thereuser on 2011.11.04 - 7:27 pm

      My guess is its a set size, notice how the teleport screen is shifted to the left when your in a larger resolution.

  56. #129 by joseph on 2011.11.04 - 4:20 am

    mw for some reason it keeps saying there is closed when i try to login but it says its open plus its 9:20AM

    • #130 by Jimbo_In_UK on 2011.11.04 - 3:24 pm

      Same for me. But it seems to switch between closed & full.
      Full i can understand, because i read the small print

      But saying “Sorrry, the world is closed right now, please try again later.” in red above where you put your login details
      and having “The world is OPEN” in orange on the welcome screen … is kinda confusing

    • #131 by thereuser on 2011.11.04 - 7:27 pm

      Most likely your funpass level is too low, wait until an update says all funpasses can get in before trying again!

  57. #132 by JasonMK on 2011.11.04 - 4:00 am

    HEY HEY, logged in on my first try this morning and this is my first time since There(1) went dark that I can actually see my avatar! Looks great! Thanks for all the bug zapping.

  58. #133 by Puddlefish on 2011.11.04 - 3:53 am

    That sounds like a major victory Samsyn! Congrats. reminds me of a scene in Jurassic Park…
    “All we can do now is go through the code line by line”
    “How many lines is it?”
    “Oh, about two million…”

  59. #134 by Kontumnam on 2011.11.04 - 3:36 am

    All is good on my main pc – impressed after a few system updates runs ok on my Acer Aspire one net-book running windows 7 Dx9 – Great work

  60. #135 by McKensy on 2011.11.04 - 3:31 am

    Dang – I’m so impressed of the progress so far. You all truly deserve my humble respect πŸ™‚

    • #136 by McKensy on 2011.11.04 - 5:07 am

      Forgot to mention that today for the first time EVERY flash window loaded perfectly in my client. AND without any black boxes! ‘yay – it really starts to feel like being home again πŸ™‚

  61. #137 by mmeodiles on 2011.11.04 - 2:02 am

    Great Job Phoenix Team…..you guys are coming through with flying THERE colors!!!! Standing Ovations here in Florida! πŸ˜‰

  62. #138 by Basya on 2011.11.04 - 1:52 am

    Last night and tonight (actually early this morning before Maintenance) when I logged on (getting easier by the way and no extra mismatch screens btw when logging on –using Chrome), I seemed to encounter more lag than I had at first. Took a bit for textures and scenes to load. But afterwards it became less so. Just thought you might like to know!

  63. #139 by maverickfred on 2011.11.04 - 1:06 am

    great news guys thanks for the update

  64. #140 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.11.04 - 1:04 am

    Great work! I was one of the first 5 in world. If you guys saw the problems then compared to now you’d realize their doing a amazing job especially with how many are working on this. Give them some credit. This is not bewitched where MW can twinkle his nose and poof it for you, haha! Just be happy one of us arent in there doing the work, you wouldnt get in world EVER! LOL

  65. #141 by Achenar on 2011.11.04 - 12:57 am

    Woooottttttt!!!!!! You guys are so smart!! :))

    And its nice to see more people around too – people were like few and far between before πŸ™‚

  66. #142 by David H on 2011.11.04 - 12:46 am

    Orsum news again.

  67. #143 by Aion on 2011.11.04 - 12:24 am

    Looking good !

    I just noticed that Limerick Rock has a typo on it…

  68. #144 by vaughn_2 on 2011.11.03 - 11:48 pm

    Last night I was in There when it shut down to let others in,since then I try to log in and it gives me a”There Client program has stopped working Error” So im waiting it out but it looks like i might have to do a reinstall on this one maybe?

  69. #145 by lisa2 on 2011.11.03 - 11:34 pm

    Mr wilson When you get the dev program back up and running will it support the use of sketchup pro ?

    and its been great to be able to log into there.com again….:)

  70. #146 by cardsharkray on 2011.11.03 - 9:30 pm

    avieman server 8 is screwed up again this is fun and ya going to start chargeing soon and i cant even get in the place

    • #147 by Michael Wilson on 2011.11.03 - 9:43 pm

      Well, if you don’t want to pay, then your problems will be solved automatically.

      The service isn’t in Production, or even Beta (I’m not sure we ever said “Beta”). The fact that it’s even up, especially at this hour, is a gimmee.

      That is all. Back to work.

      • #148 by CpnBob on 2011.11.04 - 1:16 am

        MW and SamSyn ~
        Thanks so much for the update and info, its good to know even tho I dont have a clue what it means. One thing I do know, we’re 1 day closer to restoring our Island Neighborhoods. YAY!!!
        I’m hoping I’ll get seagull and ocean sounds this time around. lol Thanks!

    • #149 by Aaron Lee on 2011.11.04 - 12:17 am

      Phoenix Team! You’re the best!

      If some people didn’t pay for There when it fully re-opens, would they still able to communicate with their friends through ThereIM?

  71. #150 by Camel on 2011.11.03 - 9:06 pm

    I’m impressed with the slow and steady strategy. Stay focused, and great things will follow!

    • #151 by Michael Wilson on 2011.11.03 - 9:15 pm

      We wish we could be faster, but there aren’t many of us.

      Gah. Just billing left, with subscriptions on top. Then we’re done.

      • #152 by Sputters on 2011.11.03 - 9:45 pm

        What about the developer program? Is that before or after the billing is implemented?
        Will the submissions cost more?
        Will they take longer to be evaluated?
        Will they have to be modified in any way due to the new client?

      • #153 by mimi06 on 2011.11.04 - 2:56 am

        Be happy when it’s time to pay. I been “playing free” for so long now I need to buy tbuxs rofl to refill some paz’s. Mr. Wilson? These photo’s you display, do you meet these people for real? I’m still thinking about the aged woman with wisdom lines. Just wondering.

      • #154 by Hugsie on 2011.11.04 - 3:18 am

        Don’t forget that weird black bar problem but it’s less intrusive if you run the client in a higher resolition. I wonder if i just disable popup notices all together will this black bar go away? I’ve also noticed “show buddies” won’t appear when I want it to. After teleporting, it then appears! Weird!

      • #155 by martin71a on 2011.11.04 - 4:22 am

        i think most of us are just greatful that you are bringin us all back as one big family and freinds again …

        go with the flow πŸ™‚

        great work MW ,sam and the team

      • #156 by daniel on 2011.11.04 - 12:09 pm

        good question Sputters, for those who care. i have made being a developer number 1 on my new there resolutions

  72. #157 by stxdixiechick on 2011.11.03 - 8:30 pm

    sweet! I figured something was up coz we just had a HUGE therequake *grins*. Yup.. email sent, however I did not see this blog before I sent the email. Thanks for everything and keep up the great work!

  73. #158 by Babs There on 2011.11.03 - 8:21 pm

    Keep up the great work as always guys! ”’yay Team Phoenix! πŸ˜€

  74. #159 by Yozh SunFlowers on 2011.11.03 - 8:08 pm

    Congrats! WTG, Phoenix team! ‘tu

  75. #160 by NathanAvis on 2011.11.03 - 8:05 pm

    Sweet! You guys are so going about this the right way. I am running There on a low end PC with 512MB DDR, onboard gfx, DX8, 800×600, WinXP and every time you release a new client I certainly notice the difference. Developing a virtual world that looks and runs great even on low end PC’s is a winner and I’m so glad you guys and Team Phoenix are ironing out all those bugs to make running There on low end machines possible πŸ™‚

    I am soon getting a Mac Mini so I have a Q – are you taking test feedback from Mac users running There on virtual machine software as well?

    • #161 by Hugsie on 2011.11.04 - 1:59 am

      I’m a OS X Lion, Windows7, and Linux (ubuntu) user.. so gimme things to pla… um.. TEST with, yeah that’s the ticket! πŸ™‚

    • #162 by mmeodiles on 2011.11.04 - 2:00 am


    • #163 by ketchup2k3 on 2011.11.04 - 5:26 pm

      I had There running on my mac in a virtual machine flawlessly back in 08, with both vmware and virtual box, zero problems.

    • #164 by Neecie on 2011.11.05 - 4:11 am

      I’m using bootcamp on my iMac, running Windows 7. It’s working flawlessly! But it’ll be fun to see a Mac client to test.

      • #165 by Hugsie on 2011.11.06 - 8:19 am

        Seems like a waste of money to buy a mac, install windows on it, and just play There. Save your self $1500 and just get a windows laptop.

      • #166 by NathanAvis on 2011.11.07 - 3:19 am

        Hugsie, you are looking at this from the perspective that people buy computers just for There.Com. While this is true in some cases it only applies to crazy folk! A lot of us use machines for general or professional use and sometimes that machine happens to be a Mac, hence why many want a Mac client or to emulate Windows and There on a Mac.

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