There “2” Q and A


Q. When will There Open?
A. As we said, we currently anticipate that ThereIM will be made available by the end of June.

Q. Will you open the There Forums?
A. No. To open the Forums means we’d have to provide moderation, which means we’d have to pay someone to keep an eye on them.

Over the year There was closed, we found that there were lots of public forums for people to use to talk about There, and that seems like a better solution for now. Especially since you can say anything you’d like! (Except, of course if you do something stupid like violate our intellectual property, in which case you’ll get a nice call from our lawyers, or worse.).


Q. Will everyone have to pay a monthly subscription fee?
A. Yes, with the exception of the very few “Beta Lifetime” memberships. These memberships were bought in There’s very early Betas, and will be subscription free. There are very few of these folks, and you probably know who you are.

Q. What about my Premium membership? Isn’t it a lifetime membership?
A. No. It gave you access to premium features. The subscription fee is a new fee necessary to keep There in Business, and is technically a “Price Change”, as described in the Terms of Service. We know that many of you would prefer that there not be any monthly fee, but it’s necessary to pay the bills.

Q. What if I’ve forgotten my password?
A. You will be able to use the same “Forgotten Password” method you used with There: You fill out a form, and we email you the URL to change your forgotten password.

Q. What if my email address was bogus isn’t accessible any more?
A. Then you can use the secret question and answer to reset your password.

Q. What if my email address doesn’t work, and I didn’t set a secret question and answer.
A. Then it’s going to be very hard for us to help you, since it’s going to be hard for you to give us information which someone else acquainted with you could provide. It may be possible to help you, but we’ll charge you a significant fee for the time to do the research, and it’s not clear we’ll be able to help you.

Q. Can’t you just send me my password?
A. No. We didn’t store passwords. We did a one-way encryption on them and stored them.

Q. What if I’ve forgotten my avatar name?
A. You can sign in with your email address.

Q. In the new system will you require email address verification?
A. YES. Ending up with a system full of bogus o or profane or email-addresses-describing-Mr-Wilson’s-family is not in the plan here.

Prior to 05/24/2011
Q. Will all I get my old Avatar?
A. Yes. Our plan is to “start fresh”, and create a new Avatar for you in the system (with the same look, buddies, etc,), and then, overnight (or in the next couple of days), restore all your inventory. This will be much better, as you’ll be in a nice, fresh, empty There without millions of old Avatars and possessions laying around.

We took a backup (actually, several) right after There closed, so whatever you had when it closed, you will have if we re-open. We may have licensing issues with certain items associated with folks who are no longer our partners (since we closed), but we don’t know about those yet.

Q. What about my old Funzone? My old Lots?
A. Chances are highest you’ll get your old Funzone. As for Lots, Hoods, and PAZs, we have to see if we can put them out again, since we’re going to be running the system “in the Cloud” and servers will only be allocated when they’re needed. For PAZs, this probably won’t make a difference, but for Lots and Hoods, we’re not sure yet. We’ll make sure you’re compensated for any lost rent (in There time, not real time) if there’s lossage.

Q. Can’t you make the ocean smaller to make There cheaper to run?
A. No. The Ocean took up one server (sector).

Q. Will I still be in a seamless world that I can circumnavigate?
A. Most probably, yes.

Q. What if I have multiple avatars, would I be charged for each one?
A. Currently, yes.

Q. Can’t you make it so I could combine avatars, or just use my other avatars long enough to get stuff out of them?
A. We don’t know yet. We’d probably prefer the former, since “long enough” will never be long enough for everyone, and would probably lead to abuse in the end. From the responses so far, it’s apparent we’re going to have to figure this out.

Q. Why aren’t you doing free accounts?
A. Because we can’t afford to.

Q. Why aren’t you doing trial accounts?
A. We’re not doing this (at least at the start) because Trial accounts were a great vehicle for abuse, especially by griefers. There’s no system (yet) which can be 100% effective at preventing people from trialing over and over and over, and, if they’re so inclined, griefing over and over and over.

Q. Why aren’t you going to allow people under 18 into There?
A. Because one of the most expensive parts of running There was the cost of keeping the world safe for minors (people under 18). We know that many of our former members under 18 were very responsible, and could protect themselves, but the fact that is not true for all members means that we can’t ignore that responsibility.

Q. Didn’t people under 18 spend the most money in There?
A. No, I’m sorry, they didn’t.

Q. Does this mean you would allow adult content in There?
A. No.

Q. Does this mean you will allow gambling in There?
A. No. The FBI just closed down a bunch of online poker sites in the U.S. There’s a reason we didn’t go there before, and we won’t be going there now.

Q. What is the significance of “42”?
A. If you have to ask, you’re not ready to begin the test. Please do independent study and report back.

Q. WIll you be making paintball free?
A. No. Right now all we’re thinking about is, are there enough people willing to pay to allow us to re-open.

Q. Will there be Portal guns in There?
A. No.

Q. Will the new There use GlaDOS?
A. Yes. You’ve been warned. If you don’t know who GlaDOS is, here are some quotes from her: Here, here, and here.

Q. Why do you have to charge by month? We used to just pay once!!!
A. Yes, and the result was that There closed (actually, There almost closed in 2003, 2005, and then it did close in 2010). That’s not a workable model.

Q. I want There to operate just like it did before, where you only had to do once. Can’t you do that?
A. Ok (“click”). There. Now There is operating exactly as it did when you only had to pay once. Enjoy.

(Spoiler: it’s not operating at all. That’s why we need to see if we can charge so that it can stay in operation).

Q. I was Banned before. Can I get back in?
A. Probably Not.

Q. I was Banned before for hacking and stealing Makena’s IP and re-distributing it and running a denial service attack and running a cracker to guess people’s passwords. Can I get back in?
A. No.

Q. What if I did only one of those things?
A. No.

Q. I was banned before for hate speech. Can I come back?
A. No.

Q. When will you know if you can re-open?
A. The survey will run for about a month : about the first week of May. We’ll then take the data, and eliminate the duplicates, and report the results. We already have evidence that some (cough) people are gaming (Cough) the survey, and that’s disappointing.

Q, What if two people from the same house take the survey?
A. That’s OK. We’re talking about people deliberately trying inflate the results. Let’s say they are successful, one of two things will happen: Either the counts will obviously be too high, and we’ll have to throw out a lot of data, and we’ll decide we can’t re-open, or, we’ll use bad data, open, realize we don’t have enough revenue, and close again. Either way, bad result.

Q, What if I had a Coca-Cola or CosmoGirl Avatar, can it come back?
A. Yes, but it will of course be an ordinary There avatar. Since There closed, we unfortunately don’t have a relationship with Coca-Cola or CosmoGirl any more.

Q. What about my developer items, will they still be There?
A. Yes.

Q. Was it true that “ had about 500 hard core users and maybe 2000 casual users.”?
A. No. Think about it. Could There have gotten business with “500 core users and 2000 casual users” from the likes of MTV, Coca-Cola, and Scion?

  1. #1 by candyfantasytown on 2014.10.05 - 11:06 pm

    will there.come have basic and premuime avatars like before

  2. #3 by Josh on 2014.06.15 - 12:06 pm

    I was around for VMTV along with there, and I feel like that had a lot of attraction. What if we raised more support for this so that possibly both could happen again.
    Was something to cool be on during the weekends, etc.
    Love meeting people on here.

  3. #4 by jokerzZ on 2013.10.24 - 12:50 pm

    i think it would be nice to have unlimited trials with nametag colors for like 5 minutes so we can see if we like the nametag color or not. that way we dont just waste our money on a color we dont actually like.

  4. #5 by Rhamadaeus on 2013.08.19 - 10:33 am

    Wow! is back, can’t say enough how much it’s been missed.
    I won’t be able to rejoin untill we’re able to purchase a new computer, but no doubt I will return.
    Hi to all my returning, past buddies. Can’t wait to reconnect with everyone.
    Cheers to the official There team for sticking it out and working towards a solution for a positive bussiness model that will hopefully keep There around for good.
    See you all in 7ish mnths.

  5. #6 by Devon_is_Awesome on 2013.03.16 - 4:20 pm

    i see you like to favor people on and not ban them. you’ll have a lawsuite on your hands mr. Michael Wilson.

  6. #7 by Dev on 2013.01.04 - 8:51 pm

    Michael wilson update your servers please? tired of paintballing and rubberbanding cus the servers are cheap.

    • #8 by Michael Wilson on 2013.01.04 - 8:57 pm

      Rubber banding isn’t caused by the servers. Even if it was, Bruce and Samsyn keep a pretty close eye on how busy they are, and do make adjustments when they get busy.

      Rubber banding occurs when your client’s version of your position, and the server’s version, don’t match, which causes you to rubber band back to your old position. This is typically caused by the connection between you and our servers (which we have no control over).

      You can do control-shift-P to get a performance meter, and if you see “red” in the top graph, you’re experiencing some sort of packet loss.

      If you feel this isn’t the problem, please let us know WHERE in the world it’s occuring, and WHEN it’s occurring and we can take a look.

  7. #9 by ticklemehellno on 2012.11.02 - 2:36 pm

    When can we summit new items?

  8. #10 by Aulmel on 2012.10.09 - 1:18 pm

    uhm sorry to bother but i tried creating and account and put my real name and it said that the name is a legacy name so i’d have to make a matching legacy password and i have no idea what that is… ๐Ÿ˜ฆ can someone help me?

  9. #11 by leandra on 2012.06.24 - 3:21 pm

    Paypal is doing very mysterious things as I’m trying to pay for my subscription– it will not accept any of my payment methods without telling me “The seller will only ship to confirmed addresses. To complete this transaction, you will need to enter your information again.” Which I do, and then it says this card/account is already added, I hit cancel, select the payment method and it loops back. All of my payment methods are ‘confirmed’ through paypal. What is the problem?

  10. #12 by Connor Mccue on 2012.05.11 - 1:53 pm

    Dragonpimp: Hi not sure were to ask for help but, I seem to be ahveing a problem retriveing my old account for It Tells me to create a new avi ont he main page but when i put my name “dragonpimp” in it says “Please choose another name”

  11. #13 by Dale on 2012.04.19 - 11:14 am

    When will we be able to register with new accounts? I really want to return to There. My old email addresses were deleted by There for some reason and I want to return!

  12. #14 by RaShaL on 2012.04.13 - 8:16 pm

    I have a lifetime membership, and when i try to retrieve my password for my avatar with my email address, it tells me there’s no data. when i try to use the secret question, i get a blank page. what do i do?

    • #15 by Haju on 2012.09.25 - 7:56 am

      There’s no lifetime membership .. everyone pays monthly you can’t have a lifetime membership , if you mean you had an old account and it was a lifetime membership before , well you have to claim your old account and Pay again to log in inworld ๐Ÿ˜€ !

  13. #16 by dakota707 on 2012.04.09 - 3:28 pm

    if there doesnt open soon no body will be loging in haha, most players in there are from sl and since there isnt any activity in there .com they just trot on back to sl

  14. #17 by Arbata on 2012.04.04 - 5:02 pm

    80% of you think you can have things for free all the time sheesh real life isn’t free! You realize what is costs to run a virtual world? Obvious not. I’ll pay the $10 a month and $105 a month for my hood. Its worth it. Especially for me its my time away from real life. ๐Ÿ™‚

  15. #18 by dakota707 on 2012.04.02 - 7:06 am

    well mr wilson from where i stand in in the phoenix park parking lot yoir loseing as many people as signing up, some say it wsont work with 18+ others say it might there not sure and some ive chatted with and who are on my buddy list are just plain getting tired of standing around watching the flowers grow. personally it doesnt amtter to me just open it and make people happy.

  16. #19 by Brooke on 2012.03.27 - 12:47 pm

    Hey I just wanted to know how long you will be accepting old avatars to come back for, because I turn 18 this June(2012) and I had stuff that I did not want to lose…

  17. #20 by Emilly on 2012.02.06 - 6:42 pm

    will u EVER have free memberships like before, or membership cards or is it gonna take some more time? just curious

  18. #21 by Zac on 2012.02.06 - 2:54 pm

    If I have forgotten my password why can’t I renew it?

  19. #22 by Zac on 2012.02.06 - 2:53 pm

    Why can’t new members sign up and can we at least get a month free trial?

  20. #23 by jgb on 2012.02.04 - 2:37 pm

    I’ve been into There from beta summer of 2003. I was sad to leave when they had a change. I’d like to come back as my old avatar and as gracious as I am for you to have me back I’m wondering why I can’t continue my life time membership as promised me in 2003. Do I have to pay now? Or can I continue my lifetime as in the original contract?

    • #24 by Ashersgate on 2012.02.06 - 10:49 pm

      I have been with there since it very first started in the alpha and beta stages. I also received the free lifetime membership. I think you are bound to continuing our memberships. There cant just ignore that. These are lifetime memberships not There’s lifetime our lifetimes. Plus there are not enough of us with free lifetime memberships that would hurt you in the wallet.

  21. #25 by Linds on 2012.02.02 - 10:03 pm

    Hello Michael, I just previously posted this under the “About” section, but thought that I should post it here as well. I am having quite a bit of trouble remembering my password and the email that I had signed up with for my avatar. I have been trying to remember my information for weeks now and it is driving me crazy! I know you have a Q & A about this exact issue on here mentioning that you may be able to provide help for a significant fee due to the research that will go into possibly finding out the information. I have numerous buggies, my developer items, and other items on my account that I would really like to sell, as well as just spend some well-missed time in the There world. The account that I am trying to restore was a developer account and I have the credit card information which I used to previously buy TBux before closed, if this will help in any way at all. I have tried the โ€˜Contact Usโ€™ option on There Central, but I keep getting a server error. Information on who I should contact, how I should contact them and how much this โ€˜Significant Feeโ€™ would possibly be, would be VERY much appreciated. Thank you for your time. I look forward to [Hopefully!] joining back ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #26 by ant1977 on 2012.03.29 - 1:21 am

      Sending your inquiry to will get you a much quicker response if you haven’t received any info yet. Good Luck :o)

  22. #27 by Rebekah on 2012.01.23 - 5:42 am

    I’ve reopened my old Hotmail Email address that was used with my old There account.
    I’ve pressed the “invite” link on Theres main page. But I do not get the There Registration message to my old hotmail account. Yet when I make the same request using my current/new email address it goes through to my inbox.
    Using the newer email inbox There Registration message I was able to press the “Help Me Remember Stuff” link.
    I got through to the page where it says “Reclaiming Your Avatar – Password Reset”. I then place in my Avie name & old hotmail address and hit change password.
    I’ve waited 24 hours, have redone the steps 8 times & still I have not recieved any Change my password link in my old email inbox.
    Two friends have tried adding There emails to my safe lists & still nothing has changed.
    Please I need help.

    • #28 by Kittyclaws on 2012.01.30 - 7:07 am

      I’m having a similar issue. I got my password but its not recognizing my legacy name. Please help my Email is Legacy Name: Kittyclaws

    • #29 by jayesh gheewala on 2012.07.15 - 10:26 am

      MY YAHOO EMAIL ID my email id last 15 year conitunue. but my email id and password loke last 5 days and yahoo messenger password loked. pl help me how can open my email id d and yahoo messenger password

  23. #30 by 73Bobby on 2012.01.12 - 6:39 am

    I have received a invication to join, also I have mentioned a few times I have no p/word
    have been told one would be sent, to this date nothing, I enjoyed beinig in, but when it
    closed we all feel lost so I threw out all paper re is it possible to get a p/word sent.

  24. #31 by Jane on 2011.12.27 - 6:01 am

    I was just wondering, will you be making There available on browsers such as Google Chrome? Internet Explorer doesn’t run well on my computer and in some cases has caused crashing, so I’m not too sure if I want to risk opening Internet Explorer too much due to that. Also, I have been having issues with There and my computer-savvy friend recently discovered for me that this may be because I have a “surfboard” router? Not sure what the difference is between a surfboard router and other routers… but what sort of relatively inexpensive router would you recommend for There?

  25. #32 by DA on 2011.12.25 - 1:53 pm

    Hey, michael wilson if you are reading this i would like you to check the logs for my account ‘DemonicAssassin’ as i was banned for makeing threats that i never made, there is numerous witnesses saying i never made threats, if you could send me the apparent ‘threats’ in an email and send it to me ill be satified.

  26. #33 by aztec3 on 2011.12.22 - 4:54 am

    Michael, what is the status with us Designers/Developers getting access again to our previous submissions. I realize that this will likely not be done until you re-enable the auctions.


    • #34 by Michael Wilson on 2011.12.22 - 5:32 am

      We don’t have a date for it yet, but we’re working on it.

  27. #35 by Blue on 2011.11.30 - 6:00 pm

    How much longer till There will be open to the public? I cant wait till I can meet new friends

  28. #36 by Ashleyyyyyyyy on 2011.11.19 - 8:28 am

    Does anyone know when the least amount of users are on There? I’ll stay up until 4:00 AM just to log on but i always try to log on at 8 in the morning so.. lol.

  29. #37 by indianprincess09 on 2011.11.19 - 8:02 am

    I have friends on game that live in other countries and are concerned about how they are going to be able to pay .Will there be a universal answer so everyone that wants to be in game can?

  30. #38 by LADYMABEL on 2011.11.14 - 7:08 am

    Its impossible for me to log in There. I have friends that can do it every day. Why? I am not a basic member. Thanks for your answer.

  31. #39 by anne therian on 2011.11.11 - 8:24 am

    does work on macbook? because i tried, but it didn’t work T.T

  32. #40 by Michael on 2011.11.10 - 12:04 am

    Sorry for the bother, but are we still paying 60$ upfront for the first 6 months? I recall hearing about this, but haven’t heard anything about it lately. Thank you for your time sir.

  33. #41 by HappyKitty on 2011.11.08 - 4:17 pm

    I have my account and everything back but it is saying my account log in is wrong, like the name or password but I’m putting in all the right info, I logged in before in ThereIM and it worked but now its being weird, can you please help, thanks :3


  34. #42 by Geea on 2011.11.08 - 7:40 am

    when logging in it ask me to verify my email address I click submit and I never receive the verification notice. Went to Help comes back undeliverable. Waiting two weeks no email to verify email address which has been on my account since 2003. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  35. #43 by packratsgyrl on 2011.11.07 - 5:24 pm

    Somehow this afternoon I stupidly clicked on DX( in my settings and NOW cannot get into the log in screen with out a double SEG VIO. Any Ideas of how I can fix this???

    • #44 by packratsgyrl on 2011.11.07 - 5:45 pm

      THERE help did their job and told me how to fix. These guys ROCK with their Tech. Supp.
      Thanks guys!

  36. #45 by Raymond Pilgrim on 2011.11.06 - 2:12 pm

    Does There have a phone number like their old 1-866-etc? .. I would like to pay the fee, as my avatar was functioning before There closed.

  37. #46 by dj_killa1234 on 2011.11.06 - 9:29 am

    I forgot my email I used for my account, and the password, and I never did set-up a secret Q&A for my account.

    Is there anyway I possibly purchase my avatar back, or something related to that sort?

    • #47 by dj_killa1234 on 2011.11.06 - 9:30 am

      could possibly*

    • #48 by GypsyFuFu on 2011.12.29 - 5:04 am

      I have not been able to get into at all. I remember my avatar name, but not my old password so I put forgot password and they emailed me a new password, but it never works, I have tried this like 30 times, still won’t work. I have ALOT of stuff in There and I spent ALOT of money and this is ticking me the hell off. 3 of my There friends tried for me also, didn’t work for them either. What can I do? I really want to get back in There, I have missed it so much. Thank You for any help you can give me.

  38. #49 by PlAiNHaVoC on 2011.11.02 - 9:23 am

    I have attempted a couple of times to send feedback of crashes that haven’t been mentioned anywhere, and the mail daemon keeps returning. I have sent to,, and

    Is there somewhere else I should try?

  39. #50 by Drew on 2011.10.30 - 9:35 pm

    I’m having trouble logging in, Atleast I think i am. I have re made my Legacy Avatar of course and downloaded the client/IM and edited the properties like told. But 24/7 I get the World is down, Or Server full. Not sure if its possible to get in yet.

    Anyways, I’ll keep trying to get in. Looking forward to playing again.

    For those of you who read these, Feel free to add me “Psychoblink”


    • #51 by Drew on 2011.10.30 - 11:02 pm

      I currently have a Bronze funpass, So i’m assuming/hoping that is the cause for me not being able to log in. But on that same note, I am anxiously waiting for There, To increase the amount of people aloud in the world at 1 time. Or atleast letting people below Gold/Platinum Funpasses to join in for testing.

      Either way, Glad that it’s in the process of possibly coming back. Happy i’ve made it this far with my character restoration. Love seeing There Central lol.

      Anyways hope to see it more open soon.

      • #52 by Drew on 2011.10.31 - 2:34 pm

        Sorry for this triple post of sorts. I just wanted to update these past 2 messages before someone tries to help.

        My account has been updated to its Platinum Funpass and now i am able to log into the world. Everything is amazing, and feels just like it did years ago.

        I have received some of my items that i can remember from 5 years ago but, Some important one are missing like Super bunny Slippers. Hopefully they come in along with some other stuff i remember. I’ll give it more time before worrying if there is a problem.

        Thanks to the there team for bringing back this amazing game as much as they have this far. It’s really fun to play it again.

        To the rest of you, Have fun once you get in.

  40. #53 by Myabeenia on 2011.10.30 - 4:09 am isn’t letting me log in cause it kept saying the severs were full,so then i changed my password,and i recieved it but it says im using the wrong password,please help me to get in!

  41. #54 by JennaMouse on 2011.10.29 - 3:02 am

    dear there team. i just got my legacy avatar back today around the time the servers went down for maintainance. its 7:59 in the morning now here on the east coast and i want to log into the game. unfortunately i can’t becuase i keep getting a log in error saying the servers are full and can’t possibley take anymore logins. but that can’;t be because there shouldn’t be anyone on at 8:00 in the morning. can you please fix the login error for me so i may log in and find my friends.

  42. #55 by InfamousPB on 2011.10.24 - 2:19 pm

    Wilson, Or to anyone who knows.
    Why am i currently getting “That avatar name is a legacy avatar which is not available.”
    Now, i know “Legacy avatar” is made before there was closed i get that part, but why cant i register it…..

    • #56 by ARTIE on 2011.10.28 - 1:26 pm

      I know that the process is still working because I just brought an old avatar back to life earlier this week. I have noticed that sometimes it takes awhile for the system database to recognize you, especially if the servers are busy. Be patient and wait. If you have followed the directions correctly it will eventually work.

      1. Get your invite first. (then read the email that the system sends you carefully)

      2. Use the reclaim your Avatar to make a new temporary one

      3 Again check your email and read the directions carefully

      4 Download the ThereIM client

      5 Change the settings as directed in the email

      6. Loginto There IM … this starts the process of your old inventory being reclaimed and connected to your avatar again

      7. Read your email again, you should have gotten another one that tells you to verify your email address.

      8. Wait a day or 2 and then log back into ThereIM and explore the menu until you find out how to open your profile, then check your TRANSACTIONS to see if your old inventory has been returned to you yet. Sometimes this takes awhile. You should also be getting more email stating what Fun Passes you have earned.

      9. You are now ready to wait for the reopening of THERE with the rest of us. If you have a GOLD fun pass or above you can try to download the BETA TESTING CLIENT of There Production and hope you get lucky enough to get logged in to do a bit of testing. THIS IS NOT FOR THE technology weak minded.

      If you have trouble remembering stuff like user name or passwords then this page might help.

  43. #57 by InfamousPB on 2011.10.23 - 4:45 pm

    Hi, Im trying to get a invite, and keep receiving “Sorry to tease you, but apparently we’re not sending any more invitations at this time. Please try again later.” When will i be able to get a invite? or is it perm closed?

  44. #58 by InfamousPB on 2011.10.23 - 3:32 pm

    Im trying to recover my old account and im currently receiving this message “Sorry to tease you, but apparently we’re not sending any more invitations at this time. Please try again later.” When will i be able to get a invite???

  45. #59 by Babble on 2011.10.21 - 6:44 am

    Heyy Guys, I’ve been told to file a report about thru this site ๐Ÿ™‚ Umm Everytime i’ve managed to get onto world…It crashes….and logs me out, which is slightly unfair if tbh, ummm my other online world games work perfectly fine, so it must be, On facebook on the help and support site…someone said they reported it and it got sorted ๐Ÿ™‚ so i was wondering if you could sort it :S It would be great help, as of course…im hoping this will be sorted before it becomes fully opened, as i dont exactly wanna pay monthly for something that crashes every 5mins :S Thankyou ๐Ÿ™‚

  46. #60 by Okalnix on 2011.10.12 - 5:14 am

    There Beta Introdution video of the Welcome Walke.
    The walke is needed to learn the basic things to
    Some signs and setup can be change wen you get online for the first time.
    But let you know this still a beta welcome walke.
    See you soon on There

  47. #61 by Kelly Barry on 2011.09.26 - 11:58 am

    why can’t i download there,com here email address please help love XX

  48. #62 by khaled on 2011.09.22 - 9:31 pm

    dear sir,
    I like to informe you that your invitation to log in there not work
    I cant log in
    Thank you

  49. #63 by Issubah on 2011.09.17 - 5:05 pm

    Ok gang….I can no longer get to the groups page without downloading the new IE…and I can’t get to the download place for the new IE…I keep getting the notice “connection was reset…blah blah”…What does that MEAN???

  50. #64 by heavensent777 (Ashley Oxendine on 2011.09.14 - 11:34 pm

    Hey Samsyn Could U Invite Me Please.. I Will Be A Loyal Customer To There.Com When It Opens And below in the name box is my previous username.. Thank You! I have changed emails and i am having trouble retrieving my password please send me an invite email.. It would be greatly appreciated.. Thank You Once Again!

  51. #65 by mrs_edmonkey on 2011.09.14 - 9:19 pm


    You use to have it where it said about how many more steps to the goal of playing there. DO you have an idea what the new date for the world might be. Or is it that you are dealing with unexpected issues so there for no one knows. Just curious. Only answer if you got the time.

    • #66 by mrs_edmonkey on 2011.09.18 - 2:43 pm

      Sorry, I found what i did wrong. I see the home page telss it as much as you can. I wish we could delete an old post when we figure out our mistakes.

  52. #67 by Brandon Niquette on 2011.09.08 - 7:24 am

    i think the Comment bar was’t working but i will repharse this just in case.

    Michael, i would like to ask you this important question after the questions if you had answered before or not. this Questions is:
    1. was Original has ran up the costs quickly than it could afford to pay the people working on
    2. what happened to All Datas of any kind when was shutting down, and where they go to?
    3. Will Avatars get some update on their looks for Example, on DX8 to DX9, something like that?
    Lastly.. the most Important Question. 4. When was Launched in 03, it has Basic members and Premium Members. had’t you even thought of this Feature called F2P or FTP which is nickname for Free to Play, would free members would have limited features than of Premium and Basic members. F2P models across the each gaming world such as Champions Online are sucessful and proven. for instance, Free members are limited only to full playing through, yet cannot buy Premium/Lifetime contents such as clothing and vehicles etc. while the Premium/Lifetime members has every full features that currently have is playing through, premium/Lifetime contents, invite friends and other stuff. etc etc you get the idea. but you’d still make money by selling contents in a ingame store only premiums/lifetimers would buy and pay for. 2 can have Four memberships if needed. NOTED that with Free Membership, it will bring in almost 200 players per weeks or months. but not sure. the Four Memberships would be: Free, Basic, Premium, Lifetime. well, you get the drift of this. i’m just wondering about this, so i’m asking you this.


  53. #68 by Brandon Niquette on 2011.09.08 - 7:22 am

    Will i get an answer from you in regards to my question?


  54. #69 by detectedx on 2011.09.07 - 10:33 pm

    Mr.Wilson, You are going to need this!

    There Forum Website:

    Check it out, and give me a kiss! ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜€

    -Jason Tracer

  55. #70 by detectedx on 2011.09.07 - 10:27 pm

    I’m an Onverse GP3D. (Onverse Tester) , Became a Tour Guide, Guide and finally Seniour Guide. Its 5 Guidey levels on Onverse. I’m now 3/5. PM if you needed me.

    -Jason Tracer

  56. #72 by anna on 2011.09.04 - 7:26 pm

    How come i can’t sign into ThereIM

  57. #73 by Issubah on 2011.09.03 - 12:57 pm

    So when will those guinea pigs tell us how it is in THERE?????

  58. #74 by Robert Ricci on 2011.08.31 - 2:59 am

    I am curious….in ” there” central in your account information…I see the usual credit cards accepted info. Is “There” going to add other options, example, bank debit cards, paypal, etc???

  59. #75 by John on 2011.08.30 - 2:38 pm

    Mr. Wilson,
    I Registered my legacy account and set up my ThereIM. I changed the target and all that good stuff, but when i try there IM it just goes to a little box that tells me my buddies and online status and T$. I was under the impression that the There 3D World would be open now. Am i just dumb and not knowing of how to get it working or is it not up yet. Feedback appreciated from anyone.

    • #76 by ant1977 on 2011.08.30 - 6:18 pm

      The world is not open to the public yet, ThereIM is available for those of us with Legacy Avatars. The 3D client has just been opened for 5 lucky Guinea Pigs and the rest of us are still chomping at the bit “so to speak”.

  60. #77 by Jason on 2011.08.29 - 4:09 am

    Hello, Mr Wilson, I heared that the only payment method for Subscription Fees is going to be PayPal. well, yes Iโ€™m 18+ and I have my own Credit Card. but, due to Iโ€™m from Egypt.. PayPal doesnโ€™t support Credit Cards from egypt. I tried to varidate my account. and it said: Sorry, PayPal only varidates Credit Cards from supported countriies. .. However, how am I going to pay for subscription fees now? =)

  61. #78 by PlAiNHaVoC on 2011.08.28 - 10:36 am

    Mr. Wilson,

    I remember reading somewhere about the email address to send tech questions about ThereIM, but I cannot find it now.
    I have attempted to re-install a copy that worked a week ago, but now the app does not display on the desktop, only on the task bar.
    I think this is a DX issue, but cannot be certain even by running Dxdiag.

    • #79 by Michael Wilson on 2011.08.28 - 11:45 am

      • #80 by PlAiNHaVoC on 2011.08.28 - 11:54 am

        Thank you so much for posting this again. Another user suggested I look at my (now disabled) second monitor… and it was hiding in a corner… ‘doh

  62. #81 by Yadoo95008 on 2011.08.26 - 9:36 pm

    when will the There 3D world be reopened?

  63. #82 by mrs_edmonkey on 2011.08.26 - 8:17 pm

    I am having all sorts of trouble trying to get there going. Please help my password doesn’t work. and I asked for help but I never recieved the email back. I have tried my spam. Please help!

  64. #83 by AKAUK on 2011.08.26 - 10:12 am

    anyone fancy a chat on the new There IM hit me up would be good to catch up with anyone who rembers me add AKAUK and lets chat

  65. #84 by Yadoo95008 on 2011.08.25 - 9:59 pm

    Got my account back yay! On thereIM, hit me up my username is Yadoo95008

  66. #85 by bradeen on 2011.08.24 - 10:02 am

    i got invite signeup but im dont work and there dont work can you help me

  67. #86 by maverickfred on 2011.08.23 - 7:26 pm

    hi guys
    THERE IM IS WORKING FINE FOR ME thanks mw i got all my stuff back you all are doing a great job thanks/ AND ARE WE THERE YET . LOL

  68. #87 by FaMeOuS on 2011.08.23 - 4:09 pm

    Will I still get to be a guide if I was one before there closed?
    I would really want to come back and help greet new members agian!

  69. #88 by aka on 2011.08.23 - 11:29 am

    is there im working or not working any chance of a official comment as mine will not connect either ??

  70. #89 by peter on 2011.08.22 - 5:23 am

    why does the new there im gve this error

    HTTP connection to port 52311 failed: connection timed out (for /login/avatarlogin?avdoid=0&avname=*****&password=********&loginoverride=0&noinstantiate=1&clientname=ThereIM&clientversion=im-2.0.9240r00) for authDoid 1, host, service “login”, command “avatarlogin”, query “avdoid=0&avname=*****&password=********&loginoverride=0&noinstantiate=1&clientname=ThereIM&clientversion=im-2.0.9240r00”

    the ***** is where name and password would be can someone please tell me whythis error haens everytime i try ???

  71. #90 by Jason on 2011.08.21 - 4:54 pm

    Hello, Mr Wilson, I heared that the only payment method for Subscription Fees is going to be PayPal. well, yes I’m 18+ and I have my own Credit Card. but, due to I’m from Egypt.. PayPal doesn’t support Credit Cards from egypt. I tried to varidate my account. and it said: Sorry, PayPal only varidates Credit Cards from supported countriies. .. However, how am I going to pay for subscription fees now? =)

  72. #91 by Jason on 2011.08.21 - 4:50 pm

  73. #92 by Glenda Wright Coughenour on 2011.08.21 - 10:18 am

    This is what I get

    Sorry, the content you have requested could not be found or has been intentionally disabled by the content owner. Please contact the content owner if you have any further questions about this content.

    404 File Not Found

  74. #94 by Glenda Wright Coughenour on 2011.08.21 - 10:15 am

    I have connnected through TherIM …no one wants to chat thought Where I go to where I THINK I am to download the software I get an error.

    How do I get into the “Virtual world”” ??? Very confused


  75. #95 by peter on 2011.08.20 - 5:34 pm

    has anyone got a working there im yet or is everyone getting the connection error if there is a work around can someone please post it or if its a problem could there be a official update to the blog please thanks

  76. #96 by Kat on 2011.08.19 - 7:35 pm

    I forgot my email and my password… could i have my account still? is there anyway i could get my email or able to make a new email.. or something i really want to play again… email me at if you can helppp thankss(;

  77. #97 by Sugar on 2011.08.16 - 1:17 pm

    Yay I have my new password, ThereIM and my clothes/make up/hair….thank you ๐Ÿ˜€

    • #98 by becca on 2011.08.18 - 2:15 pm

      I got my old avatar name back….but for some reason it says that the server is broke when I try to download it..anyone who can help please let me know

  78. #99 by Abbey_x on 2011.08.15 - 4:40 pm

    What about the nametags? r they going to be the same color cuz i had pink and now its like brown….

  79. #100 by Sugar on 2011.08.15 - 3:17 am

    Why aren’t I getting an invite and new password for my old avatar? I’ve been trying since yesterday now….

  80. #101 by Jo_Bleaux on 2011.08.15 - 3:00 am

    Has an official solution been published yet for the “Unable to look up server address.” error in ThereIM? The full message and details are:

    Unable to look up server address. Please check the connection and try again.
    HTTP connection to port 0 for timeout reached, canceling connection

    I did independently dscover a workaround, but I would rather see it issued through proper channels.

  81. #102 by lenn_23 on 2011.08.14 - 8:50 pm

    i already access my avatar for 3 days but i dont have all of my stuff.. ?

  82. #103 by Patricia daugherty on 2011.08.14 - 7:58 am

    When can we log into ThereIM? Is the log in on the homepage active?

  83. #104 by Skittleanime9 on 2011.08.14 - 7:24 am

    I wonder if anyone can help me out? I’m trying to claim my old avatar but whenever i type in the name and enter my email, it just says ‘something when horribly wrong’ I tried it with my newer email, and with the one I used for that account back when There1 was still around. Can anyone help me out on this?

    • #105 by Skittleanime9 on 2011.08.14 - 7:27 am


      • #106 by Sugar on 2011.08.14 - 8:31 am

        I would assume the emails sent to retrieve passwords and such are automated? I still haven’t got my new password or invite :/

  84. #107 by Sugar on 2011.08.14 - 2:27 am

    I’m pretty certain of my email address now but no instruction email so I can reactivate my account?

  85. #108 by Sugar on 2011.08.14 - 2:20 am

    Urgh, i’m having issues remembering my password AND the email address i used to create my account…..I did buy Therebucks so is there anyway that’ll help me retrieve my avatar?

  86. #109 by Lady โœฉ D'Arcy on 2011.08.14 - 12:32 am

    i had my new password sent to me with a reminder of what my user name is . so at the top i put the username in then password within clickin login first. then made the avatar with the new name but it says โ€˜We are currently only accepting members by invitation, sorry.โ€™ but i got the invite , then when i did it another way where i put the user name in then the password in it came up as error , it wasn t incorrect as i keeped checking . has anyone got the same problem and what should i do as i am sooo annoyed and been waiting agess for this site to work again.

  87. #111 by Sarah D'Arcy on 2011.08.14 - 12:26 am

    i had my new password sent to me with a reminder of what my user name is . so at the top i put the username in then password within clickin login first. then made the avatar with the new name but it says ‘We are currently only accepting members by invitation, sorry.’ but i got the invite , then when i did it another way where i put the user name in then the password in it came up as error , it wasn t incorrect as i keeped checking . has anyone got the same problem and what should i do as i am sooo annoyed and been waiting agess for this site to work again.

  88. #112 by Ryan Middleton on 2011.08.11 - 6:44 pm

    Q: With There Im now up in running, How will the inventory go into play? Will we have it on There IM? Also will we be able to swich stuff from account’s on There IM?

  89. #113 by Devon on 2011.08.11 - 7:36 am

    im ready for my clothes :3

    • #114 by Golono on 2011.08.13 - 9:59 am

      I already have mine ‘patch ‘rtr

  90. #115 by G on 2011.08.06 - 1:18 pm

    A friend from back in the days of Beta just sent me an email about this! I hadn’t heard anything of There since the last closing. Very elated for all involved.
    My question is this – when I was a part of the beta I was young, and so I had to have a parent buy $T after I had handed over the cold hard cash. However, a miscommunication occurred and a parent didn’t know what the charge on their card was (didn’t know the name of the website), and called to say it was not authorized.
    After being banned, I found out what had happened, had cleared it up with the parental unit, and then later had had them call to reinstate the account. By then, the card had since been paid off and cancelled. The There team said that because there was no longer any way for her to verify, the account could not be reinstated.
    Hundreds were spent, and I’m in my twenties now, obviously with my own accounts, etc. which would prevent further incidence.
    I’m super stoked and unbelievably grateful to read about all the hard work being put in, however, I was wondering what happens to people like me who had a mishap with bannings. I know it’s a case by case basis, but I remember coming over from TSO which at the time was huge, and spent years in There, and met some amazing people from across the country that to this day, I still keep in contact with. As hokey as it sounds, There is something I totally believe in.
    I’d love to be able to jump back in, get my feet wet! I’m also curious as to whether the forum would need help moderating? I’d be game for helping out when it’s all up and running!

    • #116 by Golono on 2011.08.13 - 9:51 am

      According to Michael Wilson, there will be no official forum because of the need for moderators to watch over the forums and they would have to pay the moderators.

      • #117 by G on 2011.08.13 - 12:19 pm

        Thanks for the info. ๐Ÿ™‚ Seems to be a lot of “Very unlikely” responses to being “unbanned” anyway, so I’m not sure why I was excited about the prospect. Regardless, thanks much for the heads up, makes sense for sure.

  91. #118 by A There Player on 2011.08.02 - 7:22 am

    Hey Michael, I’m quite concerned… the relaunching of There as a Pay2Play is a horrible idea… I do realise the reasoning behind it but as a long-time MMO player let me tell you where your plan will fail

    – Charging anything higher than $10 a month for ‘There’ would basically be financial suicide… I’ve read through these comments
    and I haven’t seen a price, If I missed it than I am sorry… My reasoning behind the “Don’t charge more than $10” is that
    there is a lot of cheaper (free) alternatives out there… hell I can play RuneScape’s Premium for $10 AUS.

    – You guys have to realise that that being Pay2Play from the get-go (or Re-get-go) is gonna kill your game unless you have trial’s…
    If players can’t try out a game they aren’t just gonna buy it… especially as There’s premium crowd wasn’t huge to begin with
    what makes you think that a year later that ALL of them guys will return and that ALL of them will pay a (monthly?) fee?

    – Don’t get greedy man… the moment you get greedy is the moment you will be closing There again. Take my advice on making Premium very cheap,

    – What I don’t get is why not just make premium monthly and keep free…

    – 18+ is understandable… but yet again you are digging your own grave… you probably have the numbers of your previous
    members ages, Is the number of them that are over 18 AND were Premium large enough even if all of those were to return which I am positive not all will?
    I am by no means bashing the 18+ since I really didn’t like the snot-nosed 13 year olds.

    –+ These are just a few of the things you need to watch and make sure you don’t Fudge up upon re-release.

    Ok, oh and by the way take your time on making the game good, I dont turn 18 until November… Just a warning though if you release before the end of November I’ll play anyway
    I don’t know how you plan to find out peoples age, but I bet you I will get away with playing until I can legally play.

    I may be 17 years old but I’m also a well at the very least a former customer… don’t forget that.

    • #119 by Joel on 2011.08.06 - 1:07 pm

      You can get Runescape for $10? Wow, great… That’s not a completely different game to There at all.

    • #120 by 123 on 2011.08.09 - 8:30 pm

      World of warcraft charges $14.95 /motnh and they are the #1 mmo

      • #121 by Michael Wilson on 2011.08.09 - 8:35 pm

        So are you ‘’ at, or ‘’ at You see to be having trouble making up your, mind.

      • #122 by M on 2011.08.12 - 4:45 am

        Heh, I was ,making a joke about a post i saw before you wrote some people used an email “” (if you remember it ;))

    • #123 by Golono on 2011.08.13 - 9:58 am

      Allowing members under 18 would require keeping There clean and safe for minors which means the need to pay for helpers once again. What you are asking for is the same recipe that caused There to close.

      I also don’t understand where you get the “greedy” thing from. You clearly haven’t been following this enough to know he isn’t making money off of this. If his eyes were filled with greed, he would have sold all our contact information back when There closed..

  92. #124 by Kevin on 2011.07.30 - 11:04 pm

    Sooo, are we going to be able to update our email adresses on our old accounts??

  93. #125 by kazenoai on 2011.07.30 - 3:51 pm

    damn. these Q&As need an update

  94. #126 by xqizit on 2011.07.29 - 4:20 pm

    It amazes me at how many people have lost the plot ~~when does there open? when does there im open? whats this done this way for? what use is that It is bad enough hearing this long and galling whinge in world do we really have to suffer it before its even back. Why do I have to pay.( come on get with the program use some of that grey matter, already know that I am wasting 5 seconds of my life writing this bit) I cant be bothered to read and see if anyone else has answered so Ill keep asking the same question in 20 different ways until someone tells me anything only they mock you and guffaw at the silliness of it all and you. The natural way to be is to think this is amazing and wonderous if you loved this world great if you didnt noone cares. There will open when it opens and be sure you will hear about it at exactly the same time as everyone else and we should be thankful that it is at all. Even more thankful to MW and the team who have probably dedicated far more of their life, patience and talent to ensuring it is still in existence than they ever should have in a sane world. Long live there and all who virtualise on/in/with this digital gaia. ๐Ÿ˜€ Look forward to poddling around with no rhyme or reason and bumping into random and usually quite fantastic people once more.

  95. #127 by daniel begis on 2011.07.27 - 7:34 pm

    well,my main conceren is after joining in 2004 and spending alot of bucks ,is that at least i will have an opertunity to get back what i thought was lost,lol:).I am glad its reopening now:)I have spent many days especially in the winters playing on there and it has entertained me greatly during the winter months,lol:P

    I have however changed my email address and also have got a new motherboard and jacked up my puter to a gd state besides dialup,rofl:P
    I am finally with DSL and am sure many will be glad to hear of this,rofl:P( I bought a new place further out of town:))

    I did transfere all my infentory to my main avatar(danby),i am however concerned that this will affect what i had before,but maybe not:)MY inventory was outrageous,lol.The funzone at tikki beach(next to cosmos ) was a great place to hang and buggy race:)I do however agree with michael when they want to get rid of all ages under 18,lol.It was very hard to control that funzone with many insisting to be let in every day 24/7,lol
    Also many radicals that had no respect for discipline at all!!I do however understand that people want to have fun,but please have respect for the people that are serious about there buggy times and races,lol
    With the help of many fellow racers and buggy fanatics it did turn out to be a very gd place to go(when it wasnt overun by radicals)rofl:P
    Many times my fellow buggy masters had to call me and i had to give them rights to get rid of people.It did however turn out to be a great place at times,but did take alot of time to get it that way:)The lag issues however where very hard at times and im not sure if it was just many people on at the time or others around me building up there zones,anyways im glad to be back at it and hope all works out for the best:)
    Here in alaska it gets dark 24/7 for alot of the winter,and when not working it helped tp satisfy my entertainment craving ,lol.OK,enough said:).Hope all works out for the best and hi to all my counterparts in buggymania,tc,and cya soon’tu,Look out now,I have 1 whole meg,rofl:P,waves:)

    • #128 by amena on 2011.07.28 - 1:06 pm

      ^^^so when he fixes it he has to invite us to play cuz dazz at it says everytime i try to make an avatar!

  96. #129 by CORONA2905 on 2011.07.27 - 5:30 pm

    AMENA The game is still in its Beta Stage.He has to fix alllllll the computers linkthem all to gether,and get rid of the BUGS….so that takes time

    • #130 by amena on 2011.07.28 - 2:34 pm

      ^^^so umm..
      when he fixes it he has to invite us to play cuz dazz at it says everytime i try to make an avatar!

  97. #131 by amena on 2011.07.26 - 3:45 pm

    Hi im 18+ my friends have been telling me about this game called so i really wanted to try it but the download wont worrk can u plzz tell me y cuz my friends are like in luvv with it and i think ill be in luvv with it sum day too!

  98. #132 by Richard Bailey on 2011.07.25 - 9:34 pm

    Why doesn’t the download software link work on home page??? i really wanna be ready at launch.. i have $$$ waiting to put into a karuna deposit box ๐Ÿ˜€

  99. #133 by CORONA2905 on 2011.07.25 - 8:30 pm

    “Mr Wilson”. Let be one of the first to Thank you.!!! So verry much for bringing back THERE.March 09 2004 was my avies birthday.And as we all know March 09 2010.I said good by to my Avie that i so loved very much.I was one of the avies that talk to you for the first time in Zona.And yes i have bin Cleen and sober for over 3 years now.And its mosty do to THERE.I will for ever be in your debt.And i so look forward to being back in a game that saved my life in a way……God Bless..

    • #134 by ant123789 on 2011.07.26 - 10:22 am

      Like ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • #135 by Blue on 2011.07.27 - 5:27 pm

        I can’t wait to go to THERE and be with my love Corona2905 I Love you Corona with all my heart

  100. #136 by Maxim Tor on 2011.07.25 - 3:46 pm

    So I tried to login today into the new site and it will not pull up my old avatar and username. Tried to have it send to my email that I registered my account with and nope. Doesn’t exist.
    Sad part is I was one of the original people testing it and had free lifetime membership.
    So am I going to loose it all now?

  101. #137 by DivaAZ on 2011.07.25 - 8:14 am

    Hi Michael, sorry if I missed this elsewhere (so many comments/replies to your posts!!), but is there a list you’re compiling or a web location to register/be notified when services are available? I’m excited like everyone else and want to be sure my account is slated for reactivation when the time comes. Thanks and the updates are appreciated!

  102. #138 by Lovetodance Ontwo on 2011.07.24 - 8:13 am

    I have a question for Mr. Wilson. I was curious to know if the economics of There2 will be the same as when it was before. I am curious because I noticed how the virtual real estate market had problems and would hate for the same mistake to be made again. As someone who used manage properties for a living I was surprised to see so many similarities in a virtual housing market. Before closed I was lucky enough to work for Joey Shadow. Joey intrusted me to decorate and manage his hoods which exceeded well over 20. During that time I worked for Joey, I attended hood association meetings, spoke to hood owners and learned why so many owners had to give up on their wonderful creations which so many their-ans enjoyed exploring.

    With all the new improvements you are making to the new, I hope you take in concern ways to fix some the old problems hood owners faced before it closed. You increased costs so There2 can to make a profit which is understandable, but you also need to allow hood owners a chance to do the same. Hoods failed due to many reasons, but I found a majority of them failed because it was no economically viable to keep a hood open. I think the flooding of new hoods combined with high operating costs made it nearly impossible to break even unless the hood was nearly full of residents. Most first time hood owners failed because they have no idea how much time & money is needed to have a successful hood. I know there will always be hoods that fail of no fault of your own, but providing some useful information or having There hood helper might reduce the number of failed hoods which in turn increases profits for you. I could go on further but I am sure you get the idea.

    With a little re-structuring I believe you can improve profits, customer satisfaction and hopefully bring back some of the wonderful hoods and owners who help make such a wonderful place to explore. Good luck with everything and I look forward to coming back. .

    • #139 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.24 - 8:48 am

      “I am curious because I noticed how the virtual real estate market had problems and would hate for the same mistake to be made again.”

      Interesting. Real Estate was 50% of our revenue, often at the expense of other merchandise. Where do you get your facts from?

      • #140 by Lovetodance Ontwo on 2011.07.27 - 6:10 am

        I got my facts from speaking with hood owners and my own experience running multiple hoods.

  103. #141 by Lovetodance Ontwo on 2011.07.24 - 8:07 am

    I always wanted the ability to hide my name tag. Will that option ever be available?

    • #142 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.24 - 8:50 am

      Goodness, why?

    • #143 by Lovetodance Ontwo on 2011.07.27 - 6:15 am

      Would be useful for many reasons. I would use while playing paintball games and for those times someone might want a lil quiet time from certain people.

  104. #144 by Rick on 2011.07.22 - 8:35 pm

    ayy Michael send me an invite

    • #145 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.22 - 8:46 pm

      You are cordially invited to the end of the line. We good? ‘hi5.

  105. #146 by Katie on 2011.07.21 - 4:26 pm

    I tried to log into my account since There is pretty much back, but it says it’s invalid. I need some help.

  106. #147 by Bup on 2011.07.18 - 8:44 pm acts like there game is so special? How is worth 10 dollars a month? theres no money earning what so ever we have to BUY money once again.

    I’m glad these bastards went down i hope they do again fucking loser game cocky as hell thinking there the top dog? Learn from wow kittehs

  107. #149 by Robynn on 2011.07.17 - 2:57 pm

    I have to Google to find out what’s going on ,,,, doesn’t work anymore ๐Ÿ™‚

  108. #150 by Redeemed on 2011.07.16 - 2:35 pm

    Hi Mike, I see that The page is gone, so will you come back to that or will it be something like Also will my old program work or will I have to upload a new program?

    • #151 by Infamous on 2011.07.17 - 6:12 am

      The homepage is not gone. It works fine. for me.

  109. #152 by Robynn on 2011.07.15 - 12:58 pm

    Hey peeps, just wanted to say ” good-day” :P) Anyone know who the New investors are for There since Cosmos and Coca Cola are out of it? I’ve been playing Xbox 360 these days with the Kinect ๐Ÿ™‚ Call of Duty and Halo Totally beats paintball in There and as for Spades, Second Life is even Better then There LOL Peace to those who can’t wait for There :P) If Yoshitoshi is still around,,,,You were the Best ๐Ÿ™‚

  110. #153 by William on 2011.07.14 - 1:14 am

    I don’t know how many times MW has to say it, but the over 18 thing has nothing to do with griefing or maturity level. Am I the only one who’s bothered to read these threads clean through? It has to do with the high cost of putting protections in place for people under 18, and the amount of money that group actually spent in world doesn’t make it smart business. Now I know one or two people will likely pipe up now saying ‘I spent HUNDREDS’ but it’s about averages isn’t it. One person spending hundreds and a thousand people spending nothing, well, do i really need to do the math? And yes, people under 18 will likely find some way in, but There’s liability drops drastically by being a strictly 18+ site and having things in place to keep minors out. Have I got that right MW? Please correct me if I’ve got any of that wrong …

  111. #154 by tom on 2011.07.13 - 10:55 pm

    so glad is coming back

  112. #155 by Justine on 2011.07.13 - 10:27 pm

    I have a Question. I had been on there since its beta days, and I remember having the Beta Lifetime Membership (2003 or 04). In 05 or 06 I wasn’t able to play anymore, then I heard it got shut down. Do you think my account got deleted due to inactivity?
    I just got into my old email address that I used to sign up to with.
    I just hope my account is still accessible.
    Anyway, thanks for reopening!

  113. #156 by Reator on 2011.07.13 - 4:31 pm

    Well, I really half-agree and half-disagree on the 18-over thing. I mean, I get about the payment thing, but what makes me disagree is it will be hard to figure out who is 18 and over or not.
    Everyone is immature at some point, but not immature enough to say “I WILL RIP YOUR HEAD OFF” In complete caps. But you rarely see people say that… right? I am hoping I am not hated for posting this comment.

  114. #157 by ant123789 on 2011.07.13 - 8:46 am

    To the fake Jeanswithpockets, some people i have spoke to have said there was to many kids on there in the past & they went over to another popular 3D world…..not giving them any plugs so wont mention there name, anyways, as there will be over 18’s only it will probably attacked more people.

  115. #158 by Jeanswithpockets on 2011.07.12 - 1:34 pm

    haha liddo kids trying to steal my username lol fail… i am the real jeanswithpockets…….well was for 2years till it closed……. And michael how do you know hes not 18?

  116. #159 by Lazy Dee Hernandez on 2011.07.12 - 1:19 pm

    Hahaha Does Anyone Remember “jeanswithpockets” Because I’m Him Im Popular You Gotta Let Me In And Im 18 Blah…. So When Is The Exact Reopening Date… And Will Users Under 18 Be Allowed If The Family Members Have Accounts In There2 Pay For Their Account ? Because Without iKnow There Will Lose Alot Of Member Not Saying That It Will But Might…..

    • #160 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.12 - 1:24 pm

      Dude. You’re not 18. Give it up.

      • #161 by Infamous on 2011.07.16 - 10:41 pm

        What if we are 18, and our account was closed in 08, for something horribly bogus. Would we get our accounts back?

    • #162 by Jeanswithpockets on 2011.07.12 - 1:40 pm

      fake alert!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • #163 by There Lover on 2011.07.13 - 1:39 pm

      They might lose a lot of members.. But they are going to gain a little bit of what they are losing. And them member count isn’t that big of a deal, as more of can they keep the amount of money coming into to match what they need.

  117. #164 by Zyroe on 2011.07.12 - 11:23 am

    Mr. Wilson, when i heard There was coming back i was ecstatic. A friend of mine played There as well and because of this game we have been emailing each other constantly since the closing. She and i are very excited to here the re-opening. as far as the payment goes. it is no object for id give an arm and leg for this game (metaphorically of course). we are both hardcore Thereians and cant wait to come back. So on these words. we are two therians who can not wait to begin playing again!

    sincerely, Zyroe

  118. #165 by tom on 2011.07.12 - 5:49 am

    yay ๐Ÿ™‚

  119. #166 by Morgan on 2011.07.11 - 8:21 pm

    How exactly will you be able to tell if someone is 18 & older? These kids are the technology generation, they are brilliant enough to “con” their way into or out of anything. Just out of curiosity Mr. Wilson!

    • #167 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.11 - 8:38 pm

      Well, Morgan, a.k.a.,, we figured you our quickly enough, just you know, by using a little curiosity. Doesn’t matter if you live in Alabama or not, we have ways.

      • #168 by Morgan on 2011.07.14 - 10:35 pm

        good job, you found out my lazy way of posting a comment faster, what point were you trying to make? & I completely understand why you’re making it 18 and older, but it would definitely be a guaranteed good choice to allow all ages in the future, children & their parents paid almost hundreds, even thousands of dollars, it’s called addiction mr. wilson ๐Ÿ™‚

      • #169 by Morgan on 2011.07.15 - 8:19 am

        oh and one more suggestion. try not banning all your highest-paying customers this time. ‘tu

  120. #170 by Lazy Dee Hernandez on 2011.07.11 - 11:03 am

    So When Does It Open Again?

    • #171 by Michael Wilson on 2011.07.11 - 11:10 am

      For you? Well, since you don’t graduate until 2014, about 3 years. If not more.

  121. #172 by Ebony on 2011.07.10 - 9:24 pm

    So you’re only letting over 18+ in the games BECAUSE they can afford the money for the game?

    • #173 by Latinoboy1 on 2011.07.11 - 6:39 pm

      you should really learn to read before posting these kind of questions.

  122. #174 by NAOMI on 2011.07.09 - 8:51 am


  123. #175 by mcging on 2011.07.08 - 4:34 pm

    updates ??? so when , or when are you thinking of bringing there back ?
    before christmas , after christmas , two years from now , when ?

  124. #176 by Emilly on 2011.07.07 - 1:37 pm

    Will You Accept Game Cards? Please Wright Back ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #177 by Sacrificer on 2011.07.09 - 2:43 pm

      Question: “Will There accept game cards for monthly membership payments????????????????????????????” – John
      ————> Answer: “You mean like the ones which are completely trivial for someone under 18 to get?” – Michael Wilson

      It’s been asked many times.

      • #178 by Emilly on 2011.07.18 - 4:18 pm

        So is that a noo?

  125. #179 by AndrewJay on 2011.07.07 - 12:35 pm

    I havent seen anyone ask this yet and im curious to know, since there will be a monthly fee will voice chat be enabled for everyone now or will it still only be for some?

  126. #180 by CORONA2905 on 2011.07.06 - 6:45 pm

    Mr Wilson.I dont care if in last or first.My Q is? I hade a verry large Inventory File list of things. Most people dumped there Inventory.Will it all still be there?

    • #181 by Sacrificer on 2011.07.09 - 6:50 am

      “Mr Wilson.I dont care if in last or first.My Q is?”


      Does that make sense to you? Or did you just type anything and hit post?

      • #182 by Blue on 2011.07.11 - 5:30 pm

        I can’t wait till I am beside my Corona again LOVE YOU SWEETHEART

      • #183 by CORONA2905 on 2011.07.11 - 5:30 pm

        Mr Wilson.I do not Care if i am the first or the LAST one in game.My Q is? I hade a verry large Inventory File list of things. Most people dumped there Inventory.Will it all still be there?
        THERE sacrificer Is that better.!!!

  127. #184 by Cory Smith on 2011.07.06 - 10:59 am

    What makes no sense. is adding to the monthly fee like most sites do. you also have to pay for therebucks.. so to own a lot.. u take that 10 a month.. then add even more to it. taking more out of ur pocket. i understand that there has money issues. but the new membership fee. is there bonuses? free credits monthly? And is there going to be 7 day trials to even give people a chance to see if they want to start playing again or not. or is it going to be like. “Give us money now or you’ll never see there again!” lol.

  128. #185 by Maddi Lynn on 2011.07.05 - 8:17 am

    I have a question…
    Its July 5th & “There” is still not available to be played.
    Why is this ?

    ~Maddi Lynn* :]

  129. #187 by Kylie on 2011.07.03 - 12:44 pm

    I truly wish us teenagers could use There. Cant we get our parents permission and then have them verify their credit card to make sure we truly have their permission. I think most teens would be smart enough to know if they are safe or not. Or maybe, teens can pay 15 dollars a month instead of ten ?

    • #188 by John Smith on 2011.07.04 - 7:57 pm

      For teenagers internet predators are not always easy to spot. It’s just better for everyone if minors are not allowed to use this service because while some teenagers can protect themselves, most can not. Just wait until you’re 18 and then you can do whatever you want on There.

      • #189 by beethros on 2011.07.05 - 7:43 pm

        Well.. i agree tottaly about the rules of 18+ because I have a daughter 14 years old. But what it happens is, that they declare a fake age. Even for to create an email account you have to be 18+ but my daughter has one since her 11…. I dont see where is the difficulty when they want to create an account in a site of 18+? They just need to lie about their age and its done.. As about the debit card as far as i know a lot of parents provide their kids with a card like this and even if they dont , there are many cases that kids stole/borrow their parents debit and they do it. I hope im not well informed and its not as easy as i describe it ๐Ÿ™‚ See you There soon, ‘cheers beethros

    • #190 by Cory Smith on 2011.07.06 - 11:02 am

      Lol. Sadly the whole 18+ is weird.. seeing how half of there’s members were lil kids who bothered you. when i first started there i was about 15-16 or even younger. now im 19. and there is known to be fooling around alot.. races. paintball shooting. etc. so by getting rid of the kids they’re really just losing a bunch of there members.

      • #191 by Kylie on 2011.07.09 - 6:11 pm

        See! Thats absolutely my point. By banning kids, there losing a bunch of There members. They should spend money on makeing teens safe instead of other dumb stuff. They need to compromise.

  130. #192 by Robert Cook on 2011.07.02 - 7:20 pm

    Q. Will you open the There Forums?
    A. No. To open the Forums means weโ€™d have to provide moderation, which means weโ€™d have to pay someone to keep an eye on them.

    I am confused……says the comment is “pending moderation” when I send a comment. ~Scratches my chin~

  131. #193 by Figgy on 2011.07.02 - 9:17 am

    OK it is July. When did you say There was opening up??

  132. #194 by Sugar White on 2011.07.01 - 3:49 pm

    I am one of those old weird beta people, and I hope that you have some way for us to financially show our support in a way you can take to the bank. For instance, allow us the OPTION of signing up for a $5 a month subscription for which we would get Therebux on the same day each month. Perhaps you could use that to show consistent income to bankers or potential investors, etc. I hope that makes sense!

  133. #195 by Keiki Stacy Weigle AKA Hula on 2011.06.30 - 7:16 pm

    BRAVO! Them that say it… wait.. Them that do it… get THERE!

  134. #196 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.30 - 9:53 am

    Do you guys know of fansites that have/hire DJs?

  135. #197 by Kevin on 2011.06.29 - 11:26 am

    I’m not sure if you have answered this yet, but will you be able to let us change our avatar names. By that I mean us having to pay extra to change it because I’m sure there are a lot of people who would pay extra to change their name instead of making new accounts. It might help you make a little bit more money as well?

  136. #198 by Robert Porter on 2011.06.28 - 8:50 pm

    Would there be a discount for paying a year at a time? Say $100.00 per year? This would help the income get kick-started for sure. Or would it be better to auto-draft payments?

  137. #199 by NekiTamo on 2011.06.28 - 2:20 pm

    Hey you male whore f**k the money and try to make ppl happy.Back before there was closed in 2010 i used to play free paintball,have fun for free,get clothes for free by trying it.Soo now you are gonna delete “try” option.Some ppl dont have credit card and arent 18+ but still like the game.Im 13 and i loved game,when game closed i cryed now you are gonna make game worster than it used to be.My parents dont alow me to buy money on but i should still have right to enjoj clothes,paintball and have fun right?!?!?!??!

    • #200 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.28 - 2:39 pm

      Interesting approach. Insult me, then beg me to do something for you.

      I’m going to have to think hard about that.

      Ok. “No”.

      • #201 by Jim on 2011.06.28 - 6:54 pm

        The weeding has begun.

      • #202 by ant123789 on 2011.06.30 - 3:00 am

        Michael…..can you make this Q&A 18+ too lol

      • #203 by John Smith on 2011.07.04 - 8:01 pm

        Well done Michael. NekiTamo is the reason social networking sites like facebook, myspce, There, should be free. Kids just have to go a few miles at most to talk to their friends who they see everyday anyway. Adults need help and this young person fails to see that it is not all about him.

      • #204 by John Smith on 2011.07.04 - 8:10 pm

        I am unsure if my previous post went through, but I proof-read after I clicked the post button realizing my first sentence was not complete. Anyway my point was Michael Wilson is good, and NekiTamo is spoiled and needs to get off the internet occasionally.

  138. #205 by Jim on 2011.06.27 - 7:07 pm

    Hey – thought of some options today. Would you be able to implement an in-game advertisement model (like what you had) for members? Big billboards, whatever, where bidding (like Google AdWords) gets the ads (places with more people and clicks on the ads costs) – [I mean in addition to normal monthly fees]?

    • #206 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.27 - 7:54 pm

      Yes, but, as we used to find with Google ads on pages (for non-premium members), we’d make about $30/month off it (seriously, that’s what we made).

      • #207 by Jim on 2011.06.27 - 8:10 pm

        per sign or completely overall? And here’s another idea… what about developer packages or partnerships where things like the developers of Farmville (which I do not play, btw) and other (apps-with-lots-of-people) can develop 3d likeness/interactions which directly do the same thing the 2d version does (including all the stupid fb posts which one can turn off). Perhaps a Farmville slight discount for current Farmville members wanting to go 3d.

      • #208 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.27 - 8:41 pm

        For ALL of them.

  139. #209 by heyyy on 2011.06.27 - 6:24 pm

    Just an idea for the whole I-have-stuff-on-two-avatars-and-don’t-want-to-pay-two-monthly-fees thing. Why don’t you make a one time only 5 hours for one dollar fee. This way, people only need to pay a dollar to activate their avi and get all their stuff off it. But once it’s done to an avi once, you can’t do the 5 hour thing again, so people can’t abuse the privilege. I don’t actually have two avis, but just read that and thought of it. Yaaayyy.

  140. #210 by Figgy on 2011.06.26 - 10:30 pm

    Will we get a fixed amount of t bucks each month with our monthly fee???

  141. #211 by IceAnge1 on 2011.06.26 - 5:11 pm

    Reading all of this, its getting me pumped to go back on.
    I suggest to just quit complaining and be happy that There is coming back…

  142. #212 by Chris on 2011.06.26 - 3:56 pm

    Why does the age requirement have to be eighteen and over?

    Why can’t it be fourteen and over?

    We’ve already hit puberty, so don’t assume and expect us to act like little twelve-year-old children that go around spamming and yelling at other users.

    You can’t assume that we haven’t seen ‘scary’ things, as you adults would like to phrase it. Nobody that uses this Internet is immune to it, including me.

    Would you take into consideration the fact that every virtual world out here, e.g. Habbo, IMVU, SecondLife, Freerealms, Flyff, and even SAMP (San Andreas Multiplayer) don’t have an eighteen-and-over age requirement?

    • #213 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.27 - 5:19 pm

      Valid point. I’ve been in your shoes and understand where you’re coming from.

      Something that can possibly help your argument is the fact that they won’t have moderators. What this ultimately means is that they (Makena) can leave the responsibility of moderating accounts to the parents of consumers under the age requirement.

    • #214 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.27 - 5:29 pm

      P.S. You are a great example of a mature underage consumer who has a source of income and can afford to subscribe. ๐Ÿ™‚

      This is how I would look at it– if they can afford to subscribe, why not let them play? After all, the more individuals that subscribe to play, the longer There will remain open.

      I would include on the “User’s Agreement Contract” a passage clearly stating the age requirement (18 +). In addition, I would also include a passage stating that individuals who do not meet the age requirement may only play under parental supervision.

      There is also the issue of following “internet and government” protocols. There might be a law that mandates MW to ensure the safety of children under the age of 18 by hiring moderators. Ultimately raising the operating costs.

      It’s something I think is worth looking over!

  143. #215 by Selene on 2011.06.26 - 2:42 pm

    Well i for one would enjoy coming back to there when it does re open, i had my account SweetOnePrincess stolen ohh id say about 5 years ago now give or take i guess thatwas my own stupid fault really I would actually like to have it back at some point cause of the rl money i had spent on my own stuff Anyways that was way back then i just hope the person that now has that account is not making it a bad name .. time to move on and learn from mistakes i do hope how ever to be able to see if i can find my old friends .. i wil be keeping an eye out ๐Ÿ™‚
    Haven fun all and see ya THERE hehee

  144. #216 by Nancy on 2011.06.26 - 3:52 am

    Oh, and as for the 18+ thing and about people 18 and younger witnessing “scary things?”, That’s why they have report buttons?

  145. #217 by Nancy on 2011.06.26 - 3:48 am

    I find this rediculous. You’re making people 18+ pay $10 a month just to play a game and getting nothing out of it. And then you’re just going to technically kick people 18 and under out of the game. Not all children are all bad, Some are very mature for their ages. Trust me, You won’t have many users at all because there are plenty more games out there that DON’T require you to pay at all such as game btw) And if you have to get to the point of where you make 18+ people pay $10 a month, Then you might as well stay closed. Forever.

    • #218 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.26 - 6:29 am

      Sooo, you came here just to say that?

    • #219 by ant123789 on 2011.06.26 - 8:18 am

      Onverse is crap, there is worth every dime of $10 a month, look at the survey….before making a comment baste on a one person pole.

      • #220 by Nancy on 2011.06.26 - 7:52 pm

        Okay whatever, That $10 could go to WAY better use than a game. And I bet a LOT of people think so, And as for the “Onverse is crap” thing, Try it first hun:)

      • #221 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.26 - 8:11 pm

        Oh you’re back again! We’re sooo happy.

        So, since you won’t be using your old avatar in There, we’ll be using it for target practice in Tyr. Ok?

      • #222 by ant123789 on 2011.06.27 - 7:33 am

        I have played onverse & every other game come to that, i don’t make comment unless i no what I’m talking about…….unlike you Sweet cheeks ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • #223 by ant123789 on 2011.06.27 - 7:36 am

        Let me have first shot Michael lol

      • #224 by Nancy on 2011.06.27 - 8:36 am

        Say what ya want hun, That’s my opinion, And I’m sticking with it, So get. A. Life ๐Ÿ™‚

      • #225 by ant123789 on 2011.06.27 - 11:47 am

        Ya no what, your just validating the over 18’s rule every time you open your mouth, get an IQ.

      • #226 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.27 - 5:34 pm

        Who’s to say she’s under 18? I’ve met plenty of people on There who are over 18 and act as immature as a 13 year old typically would.

      • #227 by Nancy on 2011.06.27 - 7:27 pm

        Hun, I’m done arguing with you. You have your opinion. I have mine. End of story. If these people want to spend $10 a month on a pointless game, Go right ahead.

      • #228 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.29 - 3:46 am

        Again, your opinion.

      • #229 by Nancy on 2011.06.29 - 7:47 pm

        I think I made it pretty clear that it was my opinion. And I think I made it pretty clear that I’m sticking to that opinion.

  146. #230 by TreGhost on 2011.06.25 - 4:20 pm

    Do we have an exact date yet?

  147. #231 by R on 2011.06.25 - 4:16 pm

    Hey so…. I was wondering. Remember when the game was closing up and you guys decided to offer free super bunnies in various colors for FREE? Will we still be able to keep them in our inventory or will they be removed?

  148. #232 by William Grass on 2011.06.25 - 8:35 am

    This may be a little early or premature, but has anyone thought of what kind of layout There2 may have? I ask this because I personally as well as most Thereians don’t want There to close again. You might consider changing some of the layout. Some of the islands just quite didn’t quite make it, Such as Tyr, Egypt and some of the other islands could be changed. Since it will be for 18 and over. Maybe add more activites geared towards that. Thanks for reading. Dawgie.

    • #233 by HighFlier on 2011.06.26 - 4:56 pm

      Good post William and thanks for energizing my mind. I like your post but I’m a little Tyr freak :). Your right it could use reorganization and I have definite opinions/suggestions on the subject. However might I make one suggestion now you can think on and There. What if islands like Frosty and Tyr were only up seasonally for instance Frosty during the fall and winter months and then Tyr spring and summer. Some of the other islands could maybe be seasonal too. Not sure if this could help operating costs? It might make the islands more inhabited if fewer of them are up at one time. Help refresh content in the world and bring them back to being more populated as most of them were not very populated.

      I personally feel the world was to large. It might help people to appreciate some of those islands more if they only have access to them at certain times of the year. You could only rent zones or hoods on those islands during their seasonal time of year of course. Also I know they were very spread apart for a reason but I think if they were within closer proximity like driving distance it would be so much more enjoyable to members and possibly this could help bring them a little closer together. I was told once in a There email to move an island to another location would be impossible engineering and expense wise.

  149. #234 by Tyrique( Name:ty1020 on 2011.06.24 - 6:26 pm

    Why do we have to pay an monthly fee,evan though it been payed off before it closed whats the point paying it now?

  150. #236 by There Lover on 2011.06.24 - 2:32 pm

    Please delete my post above. To many typos! lol
    What i was saying was, I’m curious to see how many hits the site gets a day now. ๐Ÿ™‚

  151. #237 by There Lover on 2011.06.24 - 2:31 pm

    I’m curiouse as to how many hots does the site get a day now? ๐Ÿ˜› I can imagine tons.

  152. #238 by Jim on 2011.06.23 - 12:27 pm

    btw… I do need the hourly/minutely charge as I would have my-kids-under-supervision play as rarely as they do (would never do a monthly for them – it may be a once a month thing). Thanks.

  153. #239 by Jim on 2011.06.23 - 12:14 pm

    On the 18+ thing…. I’ve got a couple of kids, 5 and 7 whole have (before it closed) enjoyed hovering and driving around (always 100% supervised). I see no issue in doing this again even under new rules. I expect that I can personally re-enable their avatars with my age/name/etc, as I am entering into the contract(s). As they aren’t in a group/chat setting (I don’t allow that) and just motoring/exploring, again with my supervision, it’s me in the contract, not them. They are just pressing keys and enjoying. I see no conflict in any regard with this.

    On some of the other threads, can’t 13+ year olds get authorization from their parents (by actually having their parents create the account/enter the contract) and it is up to them to supervise (or not) accordingly (per parent trust, etc)? I realize that you cannot devote time to restricting content – however, I read that you wouldn’t allow adult content it if you saw it and take it down or if it’s reported – so it’s not meant to be an explicitly adult area – just one you cannot supervise (leaving that up to the parents). Is that a fair statement?


  154. #240 by 111234 on 2011.06.22 - 9:28 pm

    How are you going to ban someone that’s griefing, harassing, hacking, etc, if there are no, or not many moderators?

  155. #241 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.22 - 4:36 pm

    Okay, so I am going to try again. I tried asking this question twice before and haven’t received an answer. If I don’t get an answer this time around, I’ll assume it’s a no. However, I hope to God that it’s a yes.

    Will There2 operate (function) on Macs?

    • #242 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.22 - 6:58 pm

      Yes, there will be a Mac version, but not right away.

      • #243 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.23 - 6:48 pm

        Awesome! Great addition. Thanks for the response. ‘rtr

  156. #244 by Saddened on 2011.06.21 - 5:24 am

    I think you’re making a mistake in not allowing under 18s into There; they brought the place to life.

    • #245 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.27 - 5:38 pm

      I would not go as far as to say that “they brought the place to life” because a lot of them were the source of most problems (Including griefing).

  157. #246 by ivan whitfield on 2011.06.20 - 1:44 pm

    Mr. Wilson, if we were banned from before it closed will you give us anyother chance to show that we’ve changed and please give us 1 chance thank you wilson love ya

  158. #247 by Jim on 2011.06.18 - 8:36 pm

    So – I’m a beta – I read somewhere about still being a beta – is that true?
    Secondly, I was agreeing with all your Q&A until I read this:
    Q. Will there be Portal guns in There?
    A. No.
    And, for a moment, I got really excited (and I haven’t played the game even once yet)… just the idea of placing teleports, and sending others off (should they perhaps opt-in to allow that once in a while), would really be something I’d purchase ๐Ÿ™‚
    I look forward to a potential re-eval of that question ๐Ÿ™‚
    And I look forward to using again.

    • #248 by iceange1 on 2011.06.27 - 12:16 pm

      Im confused. How are you beta if you havent yet played this game once?

      just a thought…

  159. #249 by BillyBrauer on 2011.06.18 - 7:26 pm

    Just gotta say can’t wait for there to re-open really stoked, lost contact with all my old friends from there and can’t wait to see what they been up too. Good luck getting everything set up.

  160. #250 by Michaela on 2011.06.18 - 6:45 am

    Hiya, I was hoping you could make the payment method abit easier for me and probably many other people. I have a PayPal account it’s just hassel using it. I was wondering if you could make it an option to pay directly from a debit card or credit card, straight out the bank? I’m from england,uk too. So would that be possibly to take british pounds which are equal to american dollers?

  161. #251 by WhiteHorse on 2011.06.18 - 5:12 am

    Mr. Wilson, I recently read some of the questions involving someone getting banned and it was very specific on if they would be able to be let back in if they were ban for a SPECIFIC reason. But I would like to know what are all the reasons of banishment that will/do require indefinite banishment. or in other words have no chance of getting their ban revoked. Please be specific.

    • #252 by HighFlier on 2011.06.18 - 8:57 pm

      Your question didn’t make the cut but you should read the Terms Of Service when it’s republished new again for that answer. I don’t think there would be anyway to list them as each case is so different and unique and requires a lot of information collecting. Often different parties of people involved. It would be hard to list all the actual specific reasons as there are so many nuances. This might be why your question was not answered as your question is to vague. Maybe if you list the actual possible ban that interest you someone here with experience can help you with their own foresight. Maybe if you say “Can someone be ban for___________?” you will get a yes or no or maybe.

      I think there used to be a code of conduct too that helpers were always telling people to read but I’m not able to find it now. Perhaps once they update the pages later on. You should find pretty clear answers in the Terms of Service once it’s republished unless they forget. lol I think you could be more specific though if you want a clearer answer from people here.

  162. #253 by Kayleigh Lace on 2011.06.17 - 7:23 am

    >>Q. Will you open the There Forums?
    A. No. To open the Forums means weโ€™d have to provide moderation, which means weโ€™d have to pay someone to keep an eye on them. <<

    I would humbly submit that you could always recruit volunteers to moderate. I have played a MMORPG for the last 7 years – and for several of those years had been a moderator and for a bit admin of our clan's website. We didn't get paid. We just got to feel important. ๐Ÿ˜‰ In all seriousness, most of the times nothing ever really got out of hand and we were just there to add people to their proper groups for posting access. I realize it may not be quite as simple as that – but I'd be willing to bet there would people willing to step up and help there – if you ever decided to go for forums.

    • #254 by HighFlier on 2011.06.18 - 5:08 am

      No Way, I’m not to keen on people who wAnA be forum trolls moderating a forum like There’s under the cover of volunteer. Especially someone who’s moderating background comes from where you say yours humbly come from. Your so called experience is what killed the idea for me. Should have kept that part under a rock.

      • #255 by Kayleigh Lace on 2011.06.19 - 5:27 am

        Not sure what your problem is with me – or MMORPGs. Try to have an open mind – it will serve you much better. And my suggestion was humble – not my background in moderating. Some of us are grown up enough to know how to play a game and then how to be objective on a forum and adhere to rules of moderation. And if you had bothered to fully read and comprehend my post – I didn’t even offer to be a volunteer to moderate forums. I was submitting an idea.

        But then I see your posts responding to other people and I guess I stepped on your toes as you seem to be the self-appointed “parent” chiding people around here. Perhaps you were the forum troll you referred to in your rant reply to me. ‘smile

      • #256 by HighFlier on 2011.06.19 - 12:51 pm

        Hey there Keyleigh, the response I’m sure you looking for:
        Actually I didn’t read or participate in forums or view them very often for that matter. If I did look at them it was usually because someone sent me a direct link about a post they thought I should read through an IM or email. I didn’t care much for the forums so I paid them little attention. So I guess your right in that I would be selfish to say how they should be moderated as I didn’t participate in them and that’s also why I’m not to concerned about them coming back of course. I know you meant well but you were thinking one sided. What you were really saying was basically that you wanted to be able to control & moderate the comments of other people ((( for your own agenda more than likely ))) under the cover of a ever so nice volunteer. Your reference to the other place where you did this that told me you figured out it gave you control over other peoples comments and you want to be able to do the same at There. Sorry if I exposed this but it was my intention to do so.

        When it came to your suggestion there was no question that I had to be clear how much I disagreed with your solution for handling the forums. I don’t think most people if they really think about it would like someone who is equal in the service to them paying the same price and then having control over their comments, at least I certainly wouldn’t. Sorry to be a bit ruff at your post but I didn’t like your suggestion and wanted to speak out loud and clear for those who might agree with me but don’t want to speak out about it before you pushed on further with your volunteer fantasies of being a forum controller/moderator. When I read your post it stinks real bad of your desire to control others and it still lingers into your reply to me even worse. But I will give you a ‘high5 for stepping out boldly and at least making a suggestion that people can discuss.

        I’m sure you meant well and what do I know? You might be a talented moderator with all the bells and whistles with the exception that you already took very personal your comments with just one post. ((( You see what I mean now! ))) You’v made yourself the example of my reason already. If you decide to respond it’s OK, I won’t ruffle your feathers to much and I give up pretty easy when it comes to debates. On the other hand it would be nice to hear what others have to say if anyone’s even out there?

      • #257 by Kayleigh Lace on 2011.06.20 - 8:37 am

        Oh, honey, you have no idea. Please tell me where I said I wanted to be a moderator of forums for There?

        But thank you for the good laugh. I think I laughed a good 5 minutes at your reply to me.

        I’d try to explain this to you one more time, but I realize an exercise in futility when I see one.


      • #258 by Past Thereian on 2011.06.26 - 4:10 pm

        Truly amazing….. I am not big on forum usage myself, but tbh Kayleigh’s suggestion held a lot of merit. The way you shut it down and twisted it around HighFlier, just because you don’t “read or participate in forums or view them very often for that matter.” makes you come across as a real douchebag. Honestly, it’s not surprising, since I’ve seen questionable responses from you all over these pages. Just amazing that someone could be so closed-minded and stuck in their own little world. And if you’re considering bashing my reply with one of your own, or possibly conducting some other sort of repercussion, remember that this is only my opinion……

        To Kayleigh: while I have never volunteered as moderator on any official forums, I have seen it done for a number of corporations. The volunteer is not given their position just because they “volunteer”. They go through a hiring process just as if they were to be a paid employee. Because of this, I totally, whole-heartedly agree with your suggestion.

      • #259 by HighFlier on 2011.06.27 - 8:40 pm

        Sorry, Past Thereian your hiding behind that name. No comments for trolls. I did read yours though.

  163. #260 by OWNEDXX on 2011.06.16 - 8:34 pm

    this is kinda awsome there is commin back and ill be able to catch up with old friends like onvi and micheal wilson i cant wait to play paintball again and lay ppl back out lol j/k i just woop butttt hahaha but just sucks we gotta pay but lucky i got a beta avatar woot ill see you guys THERE.

  164. #261 by AmberRose on 2011.06.16 - 8:04 pm

    Hello There!!

    Hannigan and I are eagerly awaiting There’s re-opening.

  165. #262 by Sapphirerose on 2011.06.14 - 8:34 pm

    Mr Wilson could you reply to my question i am eager to know what you have to say thank you its a bit more up ^

    • #263 by HighFlier on 2011.06.18 - 3:49 pm

      There’s no way he’s going answer you on a topic like that in public if that’s what you were thinking. If you already let him know once that should be enough don’t you think? If you overly beg about this there might be a presumption that your being demanding about it rather than remorseful and sorry which I think is the only way possible to go with this. I have a friend I’d love to see un ban too who might not have been dealt with properly and was possibly unfairly ban but even at that he’s still extremely sorry and remorseful for the way he handled the issue with the helper that ended up having to ban him. He knows he mishandled the issue with bad judgment. We know the chances are highly unlikely he’ll be allowed back in world and have taken that to be the final word but we did let it be known he was sorry and wanted to return to There. That’s really all you can do. i would let go of the idea in your mind that you’ll be allowed to return using your original avatar because if they do let you back it will likely only be in a new avatar because they destroy all the account contents of perma ban avatars permanently.

      At least this is what others have been told when point blank asking the question in the past. I have seen an email where this was stated right on the email from There a long time ago from another ban person unless they fixed it to look that way which is possible too. Your better off to move on and just send them an email once in a great while ( maybe every 6 months) explaining how remorseful you are and how upsetting it’s been, reminding him you made a very bad mistake and had very poor judgment. You need to realize your mistake in other words first before asking to be allowed back in. Let him know you miss friends who miss you and ask if they might let you back in with a new avatar someday in the future to start over and get one last chance to redeem yourself. Even with this your not likely to get any response at all probably. Unfortunately your being made an example of to others who might think about using their account against the terms. It seems to work pretty well for them to keep this staunch position about not allowing ban members to return.

  166. #264 by There Past User on 2011.06.14 - 11:13 am

    How can you justfiy a subcription fee AND an in game economy based on real money also? Doesn’t make sense – no thanks! I’d rather be paying those fees WoW gold sellers actually….. this is nothing short of the same thing isn’t it? Except that’s you’re forking out money to the legitimate parties instead…

    • #265 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.14 - 11:22 am

      As we said in a few other places, the most conservative measure is to just use subscription fees. The in-game economy will, at this point, be needed to make up for the people who said they would subscribe, but didn’t.

  167. #266 by There Lover on 2011.06.13 - 5:23 pm

    Will there be maintenance hours for now that it will be on the ‘cloud’ ?

    • #267 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 3:48 am

      Gets my vote for question of the day. Good question and I’v not seen this asked before to be honest.

    • #268 by There Lover on 2011.06.14 - 12:04 pm

      Mr. WIlson, I would love to hear a response to this question. Even if its ‘we don’t know yet’. It would be nice to know. Thanks! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #269 by toufovou on 2011.06.14 - 1:40 pm

      Sounds like a good idea to be honest. Shutting it down in order to restart servers and clean up all the junk would probably help increase performance and minimize lag. Of course Amazon and Makenas tech geeks would know better but its just a thought of mine.

  168. #270 by ReallyLilly on 2011.06.13 - 2:48 pm

    im very happy as is Re-opening, but i won’t be joining till the next year or so.
    i doubt that it will be the same as it use to be. all my favorite people have moved on to there Lifes ๐Ÿ˜ฅ
    im dissapointed about the monthly charge… after spending lord knows what on houses, premi accounts,clothes, cars… ect. ect.
    but i understand that this will help progress…


    i have a question, this might’ve been answered also.
    Will we still be able to therebucks with Those cards you can get from walmart, kmart, && other stores?
    thank you for any answers โค

  169. #271 by 17IamSelena on 2011.06.13 - 11:07 am

    Dear Mr.Wilson

    I was just wondering if you had an approximate month or date that there will reopen?
    Thank you

    • #272 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 3:38 am

      Did you even bother to read^ on this blog. Many others have already asked. Your a little behind the 8 ball. I mean it’s a reasonable question but come on now.

      • #273 by XNecroscopeX on 2011.06.23 - 6:44 pm

        HighFlier, there is no need to get on here and be an ass to people. You could have answered her question in less words than it took you to write that smartass comment. Try being nicer. I promise you’ll live longer. ๐Ÿ™‚

        @17IamSelena According to MW, ThereIM should be up by the end of this month. As for the game, I am clueless. However, it shouldn’t be long after the IM is up. Hope that helps.

  170. #274 by Chalisa Phoomsakha on 2011.06.13 - 6:32 am


    • #275 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 3:44 am

      You seem to be a very cool kid but why must you scream and yell at everyone here. You don’t seem to be having a bad hair day or anything so why yell at us. Have you learned yet that posting in public places it’s considered very rude and childish to yell at others posting along side you. There is no excuse for your bad behavior issues to be displayed to all of us.

      • #276 by ant123789 on 2011.06.19 - 6:35 am

        This makes me even more happy that its going to be over 18’s lol

  171. #277 by 20000Dollers on 2011.06.12 - 11:26 pm

    hey mr wilson i just wona ask what date will be reopenanng cuz i heard thats it gonna open july 9th plzz answere

    • #278 by HighFlier on 2011.06.14 - 3:37 am

      This question has been asked so many times before you asked it. If you would just read the prior blog posts you would figure out they aren’t ready to announce the date yet.
      All you’v done is put another spin on the same question here and pinned it on the donkey’s tail on top of all others who have already asked the same question many times.

  172. #279 by chaotico on 2011.06.12 - 7:51 pm


    i’ve perused your recent blog entries, and i don’t believe you have addressed the system requirements of the upcoming re-release of there. this question occured to me because i am in the process of shopping for a laptop computer, and i want to ensure i am investing in something that will be compatible with there in the short and long term.

    so, are the system requirements of there likely to change from what they were before its closing last year? will i need an os upgrade? more memory? better video capabilities? do you foresee any updates to the there software in the near future that would necessitate upgraded hardware?

    what are the minimum system specs for there “2” as best as you can determine at this time? it would be helpful for many to know this.

    • #280 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.12 - 9:27 pm

      The system requirements are exactly the same as they were before.

  173. #281 by matureminor:P on 2011.06.12 - 1:22 pm

    Not trying to complain or anything. But, i dont get how you would make it an 18 And over site, because one of the reasons i heard was because they dont pay enough ? well you even said your self that you will half to pay every month, And if you dont you cant go on your avatar, Soooo. everyone would mostly be paying equally, And teens are mostly on the computer and would 100% pay each month, But 18 and up, Have jobs and a life and arent on the computer as much, sooo i think you should just keep it to a 13 and up or atleast 15 and up or something. And i heard something about minors, And signing a contract or something, Well when people sign up there parents should have to fill something out or something, And i heard something else where mostly teenagers would sew , Teens dont even know or care about sewing people, Like come on.

    • #282 by HighFlier on 2011.06.13 - 7:27 am

      Good Question, The reason is because they need to trim a lot of cost back to the bare bones so There can stay operational and viable. They made what everyone hopes is a very good business and moral decision to cut the cost of helpers salaries who used to be paid to protect minors. Minors are people under the age of 18 by law in most all US States. Maybe someday they’ll make a teen island or something like that if all goes well so hang in there. I wouldn’t be surprised if it were in the works as we speak but I really have no clue or confirmed info to warrant my suspicions.

  174. #283 by GameMaster (beta) / nbajammer (free) on 2011.06.11 - 4:17 pm

    Mr. Wilson,

    I am glad to hear There will be returning. I held a Lifetime Beta account that was generously paid for by the friend who referred me and knew how much I love the world. I made a 2nd free account shortly before closing with a different avatar name than my previous. However, I would like to use that name instead of the original, but retain everything else the original avatar had. Is this something that will be possible? The original avatar is on my Lifetime Beta account, the other is on a free account and to clarify I would like to use the name of the free one instead of the name of the beta one, on the beta account. Thanks for your answer, should you choose to provide one

    • #284 by HighFlier on 2011.06.13 - 7:35 am

      I seriously doubt this will ever happen but what do I know? On the other hand there’s noting wrong with keeping your dream alive.

  175. #285 by Cerenela on 2011.06.11 - 10:47 am

    Mr. Wilson,

    Sorry if this question has been answered before but I’d like to have it clear. There wouldn’t be any moderation/moderators in game at all? I know we have tools to protect us of harrasment and innapropriate language but some people can be really annoying so I’d really appreciate to know if you have in mind any moderation system.

    Thanks in advance for your answer =)

    • #286 by HighFlier on 2011.06.13 - 7:49 am

      I could be out of the funnel but I’d be willing to bet that HE, HE’s engineers, HE’s customer service person a total of what 3 staff will be the moderators at first at least until liquid gold starts flowing in the virtual pipes again if ya know what I mean. Sounds like Skippy will be head moderator using a Tommy gun as the moderation weapon.

      • #287 by Cerenela on 2011.06.16 - 3:28 am

        That would be great I love paintball guns >=)

  176. #288 by Chris Alderman on 2011.06.11 - 7:02 am

    Micheal once there re-opens will they be a time limit to to re-claim everything

  177. #289 by Taylorr Winning on 2011.06.10 - 8:54 pm

    Alright, so if it’s for 18+, and somebodys avi was below 18, will they be able to get their old avi back?

  178. #291 by Joe on 2011.06.10 - 4:37 pm

    Will be able to run on the Android OS so that we can play on our Tablets too?

  179. #292 by Lindsay on 2011.06.10 - 1:11 pm

    What if we didn’t get a survey email? Does that mean we’re not legible to reclaim our avatars (maybe because of the age barrier)?

    • #293 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.10 - 1:25 pm

      No, not at all. All previously existing avatars will be available for reclamation.

  180. #294 by John on 2011.06.10 - 10:35 am

    Will There accept game cards for monthly membership payments????????????????????????????

    • #295 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.10 - 10:45 am

      You mean like the ones which are completely trivial for someone under 18 to get?

      • #296 by John on 2011.06.10 - 3:51 pm

        lol good point i didnt even think of that

  181. #297 by don sanders on 2011.06.10 - 10:19 am

    my email address changed since u closed,from “hotmail”to “gmail”,please send any info about re-opening,thanks! av donsanders232

  182. #298 by Penny on 2011.06.09 - 1:50 pm

    I am so happy that Michael Wilson had decided to reopened There at the end of the month. I support MW decision in what he do in reopening There. I cant hardly wait to rebuild GreenAngel’s Space Serenity Community and to see all my friends.

  183. #299 by "heyhey on 2011.06.09 - 12:04 pm

    HEY MW!!!!! remember the crazy girl who told you that her there house was haunted and every time she went inside a loud voice would scream HELLLLOOOOO!!! hahaha I swear i wasn’t lying. Even a year after I had that house I went back and it happened again, I think the creator of giggles was messing with me because he heard it also. Oh how I miss you and that crazy Oracle of Delphi

  184. #300 by 5gyhyrth on 2011.06.09 - 8:52 am

    is the a membership still on

  185. #301 by Sapphirerose on 2011.06.09 - 2:55 am

    Dear Mr.Wilson
    Once is back and open will there be away to do an appeal on avater if they where banned for the wrong reason , My Names SapphireRose , i was quite well known in for my game shows and televison show i had on youtube which i used to PROMOTE there , i tried to get people to join there in other virtual worlds , i belive what i was banned for was the wrong reason and i belive that i didnt have a chance to appeal for my avatar to be unbanned , Micheal i am such a down to earth austrailan girl who wants to have fun in and come back , could you see to reason if i can do a appeal letter to you or something ?
    Because without there i am lost ๐Ÿ˜ฆ ,
    xox SapphireRose

  186. #302 by Jill Rick on 2011.06.07 - 6:52 am


    I didn’t read all the above comments but out of the corner of my eye I see that you’re honoring beta lifetime memberships? Are you nuts? I think that’s a very bad move. Take the cash from EVERYONE. We want this new launch to work which means NO MORE FREE Michael. They already got a beautiful gift for all those years There was open. I am ashamed of those people who expect more than that. Didn’t you learn from the last time? A good business needs good cash flow. In the future when you’re in the black and feeling rich – then you can give them a finite period free but not now and not forever!

    Jill (and yes, I am an accountant)

    • #303 by HighFlier on 2011.06.09 - 9:00 am

      Well, If your an accountant you should know that sometimes things are worded a certain way or promised in a way that reversing your word just isn’t possible. For all we know there might be legal reasons why he can’t take those particular lifetime accounts away as it might be a legal issue or legal advice. Maybe a decision discussed with other investors. I have a feeling it’s more of a moral reason for him though. Maybe he feels he can’t back out of a promise he made to those early members who helped him get the news out and help test the world which didn’t have much content to provide at that point. I think during that period people paid for those accounts and were not always able to play and they had blackouts while the world was being developed and updated. Lots of trial and error was going on. Some of those people might have been families or coworkers of the developers too.

      I’m sure there are historians who will correct me or chime in If my info is off but the world was basically under construction at that point so maybe he feels he owes it back to those members to come back without the difficulties they had the first time when they originally purchased their accounts. Anyway it seems fair to me and I have no issue with those early members keeping what was promised to them. It just wouldn’t be right to do that to them and might make for some bad karma with the There Gods.

      I’m happy for those people and you should be too. I think it’s nice of him to take care of them as he promised.

      *I was a heavy Active Worlds member at that time and I’m basing this reply on what I know about that period of time from chats I had with others who visited There in the beginning. I won’t go into detail about it though or I would end up writing a whole book.

      • #304 by Orielle Thereian on 2011.06.09 - 1:56 pm

        If my memory is correct back when they announced the Lifetime Beta membership plan some people were skeptical of the offer, that there had to be some sort of catch. I think someone ran by a possible scenario that There could close, reopen as There2, and thereby making our Lifetime Beta memberships null and void. I think we were reassured that our Lifetime Beta accounts were indeed Lifetime accounts and would be honored as long as There existed. I figured the catch with our membership plan would be that we would have to pay for any new services that might later be added like the adult island. that was rumored to be coming.

        I think it’s great that Michael Wilson is honoring their promise given to us back when the 2003 beta ended. He didn’t have to. If he had said from the start of this survey that he wouldn’t be able to honor these Lifetime Beta memberships then I would have accepted it, but he has already said he will honor them. If he were to break his word now it would give the haters more leverage and he would lose the trust of others by breaking his word.

  187. #305 by martin71 on 2011.06.06 - 1:31 pm

    hey MW Before closed i had houses and a club out on the hood will they be back in my invantory or will i have lost them for good?


  188. #307 by Decision on 2011.06.05 - 5:31 pm

    Hi, my account Decision was banned because I used someone elses account named Virus because i liked the name, and i was only banned because they had been previously banned and they thought it was me. haha. So could i get my account back? Because i clearly did nothing wrong in the first place to be banned, they just thought i was someone else and had banned me .

    • #308 by Hmm on 2011.06.12 - 4:03 am

      LOL. Why were you using someone else’s account?

    • #309 by Andy on 2011.06.24 - 11:51 am

      Island guides were NOT a bunch of party poopers!! we were a great hard working team that had to put up with soooo much abuse from alot of therians but we still carried on because we loved what we did ….im sure im not the only one who was proud to be an island guide

  189. #310 by _Taz on 2011.06.05 - 10:39 am

    Im sure this has been mentioned somewhere, but I just can’t seemk to find it. What is the situation for Island Guides? Will there still be any, or is it too soon to tell yet?

    • #311 by mimi06 on 2011.06.06 - 7:01 am

      MW has stated in previous post NO guides at this time . BUT thats ok.. we was and still be awsome helpers, even without a star! The Island Guide Team was awsome!

      • #312 by Decision on 2011.06.06 - 4:56 pm

        Island guides were a bunch of party poopers.

  190. #313 by xSnoopy on 2011.06.05 - 4:18 am

    Been thinking about other aspects of the game, other than Paintball. Has the code changed enough that it will not allow the 3rd party compasses to work? The Bedican and jsCompass were the ones I used. Most of us relied on them quite a bit.
    A better question might be: Are you guys working with any of the 3rd party developers?

  191. #314 by Gaultier on 2011.06.04 - 7:35 pm

    I’m a beta lifetime member, I miss my virtual dog Franky.

  192. #315 by There Lover on 2011.06.04 - 5:20 pm

    I for one am a BIG Babs fan. She made quite the events. So will the Babs towers still be where they were once you guys statrt clean? It would be wonderful to have those still. A big part of the community.

  193. #316 by naomi on 2011.06.04 - 3:43 pm

    look! i never had a there and i want one but i am only 13 so wtf can u plz juz leave it 2 13+

  194. #317 by Elin on 2011.06.03 - 3:02 am

    when will there be open again? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

  195. #318 by Spadez00 on 2011.06.02 - 8:59 pm

    Very excited to see There2 come up. It seems like if you’re going to make a mandatory payment to play then you should either lower the price of T$ or make an in-game method of obtianing them. Just doesn’t seem fair that we have to pay monthly to play the game, then pay the same T$ prices to get pretty much anything in the game.

  196. #319 by Ray on 2011.06.02 - 3:02 pm

    he said end of june if ya read the forms ya see all these qustions and he wont get it done

    • #320 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.06.03 - 8:56 am

      I’m very much aware of the Q&A section, Ray… My post was only ment as a anxious to return to There. I didnt expect him to really answer it, lol.

      • #321 by RAY on 2011.06.03 - 8:36 pm

        oh ok sorry just seeing so many people asking i for one is waiting for the big day ๐Ÿ™‚

  197. #322 by YankeeintheSouth on 2011.06.02 - 11:35 am

    Hi MW… People are getting ant’s in their pant’s ( including me) lol. Any clue on a date yet of ThereIM or the world opening??? Take us out of our misery, lol.

  198. #323 by There Lover on 2011.06.02 - 6:32 am

    I know this has been mentioned before. BUT I think right now.. It might be best to re-open the forums. Well you guys would have to figure out stuff with the accounts wouldn’t you…? Any Possible way you could get them back up before ThereIM?

    • #324 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.02 - 6:34 am

      Sorry but no. I’m not even sure we’ll be hosting forums, since that means we’d have to have Forum Moderators, which costs $$$.

      • #325 by There Lover on 2011.06.03 - 5:45 am

        Is there any possible way for you to allow there to be Volunteers in game? For example, Ho Onverse runs. They have dedicated members be Guides..
        Tour guide = Island Guide
        Guide = Modorater (not as many permissions though.
        Senor Guide = Greeter
        And these people also have permission on the Forums to. I believe only Senior Guides, but I think that could work for to. I mean look at how many members would love to volunteer to do it. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • #326 by ltbigdog on 2011.06.21 - 4:53 am

        Even if you dont host forums do you think you will have Club forums anymore?

  199. #327 by Marcia on 2011.06.01 - 3:11 am

    Myself therefore is very much looking forward to starting a fresh with There 2, I dont remember the email address I used with my old username RnBGirl and forgot my password so this will be an great opportunity for me to start a fresh. Do you know when There 2 will be lauched now? Will the prices to buy ThereBucks and renting a Lot to keep the house in be the same? Will we still be able to adopt dogs? When roughly will you be able to let us know when the official launch date is?

  200. #328 by c5 on 2011.05.31 - 12:34 pm

    Can you verify once and for all, who is the Lifetime Beta Memberships apply to? This has been the point of debate and contention ever since the survey. A lot of conflicting information and interpretations of vague words like early, few (and “lifetime”). I see you have dropped a few clues like A) the LBM were indeed ‘bought’. And B) there are about 300 or so members that qualify as LBM. You said something to the effect of “you know who you are.

    Well for their sake, and to be fair, everyone who is not, how DOES one know?
    What specific factors are determining whose lifetime is really lifetime?

    I get the notion form these posts/updates you want to show transparency and win some trust among former members. A clear answer would go a long way here on both fronts.

    (Pesonal note: I was under the initial impression I did have a Lifetime beta membership when I purchased it, and was thrilled specifically by the offer when I read it way back then circa 2003. However, circling rumors about retractions and re-statements regarding this have left me very confused, angry and doubting what I remember. Is this new deal for betas or really alphas? Is it always worded so vaguely becaus eyou wish todecide whose memberships to honor at a later time? I certainly plan to reactivate all accounts of mine, but knowing my main and oldest one would be honored as “lifetime” and “free” would go to determining any long term goals I could/would make in a new There. Delete this parenthesied part if you do not wish for it to be seen, but please at least answer the questions with a definitive response.)

    • #329 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.31 - 12:53 pm

      The original – and current – intention – is to honor the “Lifetime Beta” accounts which were given out in the early Beta days before There opened, of which there are, at, our count, around 350, as indicated by the member program their avatar was assigned they took up the offer.

      I’m not sure how you would know you were one of those if you don’t now. We don’t want to post the list of avatar names, since that would just become “The list of accounts to hack.”. Certainly if you re-activate one of these accounts, we’ll let you know you don’t have to be pay a subscription fee because you do qualify.

      As for “other” lifetime accounts (of varying prices), I will review those to see if it makes sense for us to extend the offer. Frankly, if we decide that everyone who claims lifetime should get There for free, we should just wrap this up right now because it won’t work.

      I’m not aware of any circling rumors or retractions: I’ve always been very clear: Lifetime Beta Accounts. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear, I wasn’t actually at the company for a few years between 2003 and 2005 (except by writing checks), so I don’t know at this time what other “lifetime” accounts people may be talking about.

      • #330 by c5 on 2011.05.31 - 9:02 pm

        Hmm I can understand you wouldn’t want to generate a list for public consumption. I guess even asking about it here paints a bullseye on me for hackers.

        I guess opening up a page were old members could login to a system that tells WHICH member program they have is not feasible either? Maybe an email to the ~350 members sooner rather than later would be a good way to put them at ease and perhaps suggest what their (re)new(ed) membership with There might offer or just ask them specifically for input on such plans if you want any?

        I certainly don’t expect There to be able to afford to keep to a “lifetime” agreement for the majority of its members, as pretty much everyone I know had some kind of deal that said a membership for life. But I do feel for those, myself included, who feel rather a victim of a ‘bait & switch’, who expected that a lifetime account bought before v1 opened would still be honored as was said in the original survey. I do plan on paying for 1 account at least, A return of my Lifetime membership determines what accounts I have to sadly sacrifice and how long I can be a member in There.

        I don’t have any receipts from There in 2003 either. So I can not read the “fine print” as it were and can still only go with what I recall the big pricing reveal in Beta and jumped on that original Lifetime offer. I checked my old email and while I found the original offer I probably bought:
        There has officially announced the post-Beta pricing plan, including your exclusive Beta Tester deal. As a special thank you to all our Beta Testers, we’re offering this incredible, once-in-a-lifetime offer.

        For only $29.95 you get:

        * LIFETIME membership in There
        * Explorer Pack – FREE!
        * Music Upgrade – FREE!
        * Voice Upgrade – FREE!
        While I could not locate a receipt definitively proving i actually bought it (tho I really question why I would have bought something else!), all the talk of limited and exclusivity, has me doubting if this was indeed the correct beta offer and if in fact I bought it!

        (I hope There would have ways to protect its member’s account information and passwords in the wake of Sony’s huge hacking debacle O_o )

      • #331 by Skyefire on 2011.06.01 - 12:38 am

        I can explain the confusion. At one point you said something about only the lifetime subscriptions that were “given” out in “early Beta.” Most of us had taken what was said in the survey to mean all subscriptions that were bought in the last few days of Beta before the game went live. The confusion is that that was early in the game, but late in the beta, and they weren’t “given” but bought. The other confusion comes from the fact that you kept saying the very “few” accounts and I remember back when they were for sale it seemed like the whole universe was buying them. (The universe was pretty tiny back then?)

        I hadn’t seen the number 350 before just now, myself. I know if you are referring to accounts bought right at the very end of Beta, that there are a number of inactive accounts that will stay so no matter what happens from here. If your 350 includes a pile of inactives, I start to see why you say it is a very few people.

    • #332 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.06.01 - 5:21 am

      Actually MW’s response sounds clear to me…If someone was a Beta member BEFORE the initial ‘opening to the public’…they would be the ones for the free accounts…You see, I started back in 2005 where I DID pay a lifetime membership…but…it was after THERE was opened to the public…so it would be the ones that were subscribed BEFORE opening to the public..That is why he said…the members would know how they were…. Makes sense to me…

      • #333 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.06.01 - 5:33 am

        But as I had stated before in MW’s blog …Beta or not..I would rather pay the monthly fee to HELP out our great community…Also, I would consider my payment as a donation to help THERE out!!!! It’s so vital to the continuation of our great community!
        I know this statement might sound a bit like, ” Ok let’s shoot this avie with a paintball gun”, but here goes:
        If I were one of the 350 or so, I would use my old beta for free, since MW was so generous to let me do so, BUT…I would also pay a monthly subscription in order to also help THERE …. ( using an alt I had, or recreating a new one, would help with THERE’s expenses…..IMO

      • #334 by v on 2011.06.01 - 8:44 am

        c5 Thanks for bringing this up – I think a lot of people are confused. I am a Beta, I started in February 2003 and had to have an invite to get log in information. When October came and it was announced Beta was over and There would be available for anyone to log in. We were offered the Beta deal for $29.99 – we could keep the inventory we had, got the Beta mug, etc. Tom was in charge then – he called it a lifetime membership. MW are those the people that should know who they are? I know there was a Beta I and Beta II, might have even been and Beta III, is it just the Beta 1’s or any of the Beta’s or none? I’d really like to find out who I am soon!

      • #335 by Michael Wilson on 2011.06.01 - 10:38 am

        I won’t have any more clarification on this issue until we go back and dig up every version of “Lifetime” ever offered (Not “Lifetime Premium”, which is meaningless in this complex).

        This will be time consuming, and I’m not sure when we will get to it. In addition, it may open a huge can of worms, since if we add up every version of “Lifetime” ever offered, projected income will drop below projected expenses, and we’ll have to decide what to do :-(.

      • #336 by v on 2011.06.01 - 10:57 am

        MW – thanks and understood

      • #337 by Orielle on 2011.06.01 - 1:59 pm

        I know of only one Lifetime Beta membership, the one offered to beta testers who signed up for it before October 12, 2003, though I know of a couple accounts created after this offer ended that were Lifetime Betas. One I think was a former greeter who was laid off. The other was some girl who had joined in November 2003 and kept insisting she was a beta tester despite the join date in her profile… I think the confusion was with the term very early beta testers. I finally was able to join July 2003 and don’t consider myself a very early beta tester since I know of people who joined in 2002 but I was able to get in on the $29.95 Lifetime Membership deal.

        I too am a bit confused (I think I need to stop thinking so much… ). So over on Thumdar’s a while back I was sort of thinking out loud as I made a post using my two beta accounts as an example on determining who would qualify as to not needing to pay monthly subscription fee. And I had said that since I had paid $30 for Orielle’s Lifetime beta account I would be able to log in as her without having to pay a monthly fee, but if I wanted to log in as my other beta account which I did not pay for the Lifetime Beta membership then I’d need to pay for the new monthly fee for that account. And Michael Wilson replied to my post on Thumdar… (”’WOW I feel so special) that I was correct.

      • #338 by v on 2011.06.01 - 3:25 pm

        thanks ori ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #339 by Evan on 2011.06.06 - 3:26 am

      Devil’s advocate here, which I rarely do. According to his spreadsheet, the man needs to make around $31 grand a month to make this ship sail. That’s provided everyone who said they would pay in the survey actually does pay, and new member recruitment pays off as well. I’ve taken the stance that, if he lets us back in for free under our lifetime agreements, fine and dandy. If he decides he can’t afford to do that, it’s a business decision and I’ll be fine with that. I’ll either pay, or I won’t.

      He’s taking an enormous risk firing that bitch back up in hard times like these, with the country financially crashing and burning around us. We all know that some people from the survey who said they would pay to play, ultimately won’t. It’s just how it is. If he lets too many people back in for free and can’t make his numbers, we will lose There a second time, mostly like forever, then.

      I’m not going to jump his shit. If he says I have to pay to get in, then I have to respect that. What I do then is up to me. /soapbox

  201. #340 by O Yah on 2011.05.31 - 7:28 am

    Can you make it possible to have a “NAME CHANGE ” option–even if we have to pay for it? (Like say $5, $10 or something?) Reason: I used my REAL name–stupid mistake I know. Plus I have loads of stuff on this specific account.

    • #341 by HighFlier on 2011.06.09 - 4:32 pm

      Nopie nope….they won’t change the name tag on accounts. It’s a big mess and very time consuming ordeal for them to do it. I’m fairly certain they won’t do it.
      Your better off to get a new avatar with a name you prefer and move your inventory to your new avatar. Keep your old one as a mule to hold seasonal items or cloths you don’t use often or to use if your new avatar is ever on a server having issues so you can still log into the world till it’s patched. Almost every person has more than 1 avatar in There anyway. But you might tell them it’s your real name that you used and see what they say. It can’t hurt but I’m fairly positive they will not change a name tag name.

      They do this in second life now sort of by allowing you to change the name on your tag but I absolutely hate it. Drives me crazy not knowing who is who on my buddy list without going to extra steps to find out their original name and the names people are using are just horrible with every character known to computers. This was one bad move on their end. I will not miss that feature of second life at all. Some like it until they see all the issues it creates. I would not be surprised if they remove it at some point. Lets hope There never tries anything like that.

  202. #342 by FASTCASH on 2011.05.30 - 4:26 pm

    Will there still be auctions available for us to buy and sell items to each other as there was before? If so, I’ll be back and ready for business. I have to say that one of the reasons I decided to not be in world so much in the last while of There, was because of all the free accounts. Too many people asking for handouts and free stuff. I support the pay only platform. I also like the 18+ only idea. See ya in There (hopefully) …FASTCASH…

  203. #343 by Brandon (Aristoteles) on 2011.05.30 - 1:12 pm

    Two questions!

    1. With the subscription method, is there a basic membership or a slightly cheaper method for an account with no voice?
    2. Are there any job openings?

  204. #345 by Rob_Chase on 2011.05.30 - 11:46 am

    Personally I think its a crockload of crap that back when i paid $80 for there, and was told that I would have a lifetime account that There would then close and decide to reopen and tell me they were “jk’s” about the Lifetime Account. If that’s the case than you have most certainly lost one of your “core” gamers to the fact that you basicly lied to me and everyone i knew back then. I would also like to hope that the people I knew back then would feel the same way. Therefor yall be wasting your time, and good luck. Lifetime = Lifetime not Lifetime = Whenever We Choose Otherwise.

  205. #346 by Sapphirerose on 2011.05.30 - 3:34 am

    Dear Mr.Wilson
    Once is back and open will there be away to do an appeal on avater if they where banned for the wrong reason , My Names SapphireRose , i was quite well known in for my game shows and televison show i had on youtube which i used to PROMOTE there , i tried to get people to join there in other virtual worlds , i belive what i was banned for was a dumb reason and i belive that i didnt have a chance to appeal for my avatar to be unbanned , Micheal i am such a down to earth austrailan girl who wants to have fun in and come back , could you see to reason if i can do a appeal letter to you or something ? thanks sapphy

  206. #347 by Michaela on 2011.05.29 - 11:53 pm

    When will There2 be opening? Do you have a date? Sorry if this has already be asked and answered. ๐Ÿ™‚

  207. #348 by mimi06 on 2011.05.29 - 3:20 pm

    This enitre family played THERE, for many years, even my 2 grandkids.. rofl who borrowed, claimed and kept rofl.. some things, not that I care, either way.. but back then we had to FAX personal info about them and myself.. for permission for them to play.. When THERE closed was all that erased? I only ask because that info is proof of who I am.. If its gone thats ok.. the “items” I don’t care about.. my question is, somewhere in the blogs I read that you might be able to help those that don’t have the same emails, or don’t have saved passwords. Sometime down the road, do you think you might tell some of us what the fee will be for that “xtra” help? Sorry, probably way to early to ask.

  208. #349 by Emilly on 2011.05.28 - 3:51 pm

    Plz Answer My Q Plz MW

  209. #350 by Whisperxx on 2011.05.28 - 7:11 am

    not sure if its been asked before

    how will you know if someone is 18+ will we need to send some kind of id off?

  210. #351 by Jane Meyers on 2011.05.28 - 3:28 am

    My question has still not been noticed, and I’m hoping that this time you can answer me, as I know that many other people have a similar / identical issue:
    My daughter was a very addictive player. I do understand that she will no longer be able to play, but; I had spent hundreds of dollars on her account to get her the newest houses and clothing (She was persuasive), and I would like to transfer those items onto the account I will be making. I’m wondering if you will allow accounts to be open for a certain amount of time (under supervised conditions) so that parents like me won’t have to waste all of those items simply because of an underaged account. At the least, I would like to transfer the items to my new account so that it won’t have been a waste of money. A response would be greatly appreciated, Michael. Thank you for your time :-).

    • #352 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.28 - 11:51 am

      We don’t know the answer to that. You would have to somehow be allowed to “claim” her avatar to transfer things from it. The “open for a certain amount of time (under supervised conditions)” is a very slippery slope which we don’t want to get on.

      • #353 by Jane Meyers on 2011.05.28 - 3:56 pm

        Alright thank you:)… I was only wondering because she has a lot of stuff (clothes, cars, homes, etc.), and it would be nice to start with all that stuff on my new account… Can’t wait to play MW, so thanks:).

      • #354 by Jane Meyers on 2011.05.28 - 3:59 pm

        Oh yeah, and if I (as you said before) “claimed” her account and verified that I’m an adult, would I just be able to keep the account and put it under my name?

  211. #355 by Jane Meyers on 2011.05.28 - 3:20 am

    My question still has not been noticed, and I’m hoping that you’ll be able to answer it for me, as I know that many other adults have an identical/similar issue;

  212. #356 by nickolehp7540 on 2011.05.27 - 7:48 pm

    can someone like really donate some money to some of us will like to play but we cant without our money i only have 20 dollars on my card thats not a lot serouisly dude are u kidin mi thats totllay unfair we all will try to help keep safe

  213. #357 by ltbigdog on 2011.05.27 - 7:32 pm

    After the world gets open and things get up and running do you think you will look into paid member requests.
    Example: I would be willing to pay to have a 16×16 paz put in front of the entrance of my Frontier zone so I would be able to put my (Watch for falling buggys) sign up out side.

  214. #358 by Elaur on 2011.05.27 - 5:46 pm

    Lifetime beta don’t have to pay? A good chunk of the people I know who were active in world were lifetime beta. You are going to lose an awful lot of income. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ That doesn’t sound good.

    Why wouldn’t I just use my beta friend’s account?

    • #359 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.27 - 6:13 pm

      We counted about 300, of which we’re sure they won’t all be back.

      Sure, you can use someone else’s account. But you wouldn’t be … you.

  215. #360 by There Lover on 2011.05.27 - 10:40 am

    I never got an answer on this MW,

    Will ThereIM be able to be used in a Mac?

    • #361 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.27 - 10:46 am

      No, not at this time.

      • #362 by Jessy on 2011.08.21 - 2:36 am

        hello Mr Wilson,

        I have a Mac question ,,, i see that the im won’t run on mac, will the main client ?? as i have switch my comp to a mac pro and am currently switching the rest of the comps to macs as well,,,

  216. #363 by Kalain on 2011.05.27 - 9:51 am

    Where will i be able to download the new ‘There’ from? and….can all of the first people to come online for maybe like a day, get an exclusive welcoming gift?

  217. #364 by Ocee on 2011.05.27 - 9:37 am

    Mr. Wilson,
    Will the new There2 operate on a Mac?
    Thank You

  218. #365 by bankerman on 2011.05.26 - 9:55 pm

    i am happy to say i play there be for mr wilson got there.and had a nice hood name goodland in the island of kansas. name after goodland kansas. i for one would be happy to see there reopen and come back . i paid tons of money to play hood was 75$ a mo. when i 1st got it and then it was 100$ a mo. so i for one put my money in to there.and will again.

  219. #366 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.26 - 7:36 pm

    #341 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 – 3:51 pm
    Weโ€™re not planning to tease you. Isnโ€™t PayPal available in many countries?

    Quote from Paypal site:
    Send and Receive Payments Securely Worldwide
    Whether you’re buying soccer shoes from Chile, a cell phone from China, or selling surfboards in Costa Rica, PayPal works for you. With a network of more than 190 countries and regions, and in multiple currencies, PayPal reaches across the globe to give you or your business a way to pay or get paid. ( )
    also here: ( )

    • #367 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 8:54 pm

      We won’t accept chile for payment, unless it’s VERY Good.

      • #368 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.31 - 12:59 am


  220. #369 by B1 MATTITUDE on 2011.05.26 - 1:59 pm

    i forgot my username fail i want my colbot back i won it in a lotto! if any1 remembers me, my avatar’s name was cooldude(i think)…. but i think theres something else in it heeeeeelp!!!

  221. #370 by Andreas on 2011.05.26 - 10:05 am

    Quote MW:
    Q. Does this mean you would allow adult content in There?
    A. No.

    Does your 18+ policy involves any difference on virtual content against a minors open site? I mean what is your picture of an adult in your business? Is it accountability with drafts and transfers only? (pls excuse my straight question) Since a naked breast reveals mums milkbar, which is adult content in the US, but accepted for a breast feeding mum even in public transports, how far do you plan to restrict your users. – I would join THERE, if you can concider romancing is a very substantial part in adults interactions and welcome on THERE. I’m clearly against S3Xual content, but as well too educated to surppress my wishful thinking in my own house/virtual design.
    Any answer is okay and still gives you my honest appreciation. Two thumbs up for your courage!

    • #371 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 10:26 am

      I’m not sure if I can answer your question. I guess one guideline would be “If you can’t see it on the streets of the a civilized city in the world, you probably can’t see it in There” (We’ll ignore things like naked bike riding day in Amsterdam, etc).

    • #372 by Andreas on 2011.05.26 - 12:12 pm

      Uuh 1 more:
      How do you plan to authenticate foreign users by age? By US credit cards only? What about PayPal?
      I’m thinking if you plan a comprehensive re-opening, don’t forget there are customers abroad awaiting your plan to tease us!

      • #373 by Andreas on 2011.05.26 - 12:24 pm

        hihi – never thought of naked bike riding in public … :-)) funny idea. I’m thinking more about a sort of privacy in the house I’m supose to buy , as I had plenty with poses on imvu. – Just trying to find out what the change would be. Me and my darling are ready for a new 3D-IM-Site, don’t know if you like us to come and to anounce good news to our dissapointed friends, who left the other site with us in 2006. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • #374 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 3:51 pm

        We’re not planning to tease you. Isn’t PayPal available in many countries?

  222. #375 by DrChisel on 2011.05.25 - 9:16 pm

    I was wondering if there have been any graphical improvements to the game? Someone asked this earlier and I do not think you replied. I remember seeing pictures of a female and male avatar posted here on your blog quite a while back. They were touched up a bit to get a more real look to them and makes me wonder if this will be implemented into the release. If you read this thank you for your time and reply ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #376 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.25 - 9:21 pm

      We will be releasing a client which has DX9 (and DX8, and OpenGL) support, but to get the full affect, we’ll need new art to show it off. Probably at some time in the future we’ll make it possible to developer art to leverage the DX9 renderer.

      Yes, we’ll be making those new avies available, but we’re not sure how or when yet.

  223. #377 by Jordan on 2011.05.25 - 4:03 pm

    Hello MW. Can I ask a question?
    Will we get stippends from the monthly fee?
    or will that be for just playing on an account?

    • #378 by Tim on 2011.05.26 - 9:18 am

      i asked the same question and he never botherd to reply so i guess that all we will be paying for is to play the game. i find that unacceptable and if its true i will not return because i can go on secondlife wich is soo much better and its free. even if u do pay for the premium fee on sl u get a free house and 300l a week.
      I challenge you MW to offer people something for their money other than access or otherwise you will be seeing not many people join

      • #379 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.26 - 10:24 am

        I’m sorry that you find it unacceptable, but that’s how it is today. We’re only planning to re-open because enough people voted that they would pay, so that’s what we’re going on.

      • #380 by Analogrival on 2011.05.27 - 4:46 am

        And yet millions of people happily pay Blizzard ~$15 a month just to play World of Warcraft.
        I don’t get gold, items, or anything else.
        I just get access to the servers.

      • #381 by xSnoopy on 2011.05.27 - 8:16 am

        You said
        “I challenge you MW to offer people something for their money other than access or otherwise you will be seeing not many people join”
        Apparently you have not been reading the comments on this blog.
        What are you getting? DUH!!!!
        Your getting the best friggin game online, PERIOD!
        If you enjoy SL so much, then go there! Stop wasting his/our time with your negativity.
        It would appear you have never been on There before. How can you make comparisons without actual experience.
        Oh, another observation, your grammar sucks which leads me to believe you are very young or English is not your first language.
        Hope you enjoy LAGGY SL.

      • #382 by Tim on 2011.05.28 - 6:46 am

        snoopy st off i have been on there and i can say it is far from the best game on line i would actually call it the worst game on line actually i have played a lot of games over the years and the only reason i stayed on there was to chat to my friends. and 2nd my grammar is fine if u dont like it then screw you. if i want to type bad i will type bad not you or any one else will stop me so go get a life.
        i find it hard to think that my 1st language isn’t English since i was born and raised in England. i just hope u will all enjoy being ripped off by there when it comes back on. if i go on there again which i very doubt i will i expect the user created fees to go as that should be a part of the monthly fee and i think that everyone that pays the fee should get a free house or paz .

    • #383 by Nicole on 2011.05.30 - 7:08 am

      M.W I Would Want To Know The Same That Emilly Wanted To Know Cuz When Closed About A Few Weeks Before I Was Gonna Get A Game Card For Membership. Plz Write Back.

  224. #384 by Emilly on 2011.05.25 - 3:56 pm

    Hey Umm Will You Guys Allow To Have Membership Cards Like You Used To Cuz I Really Would Pay But Im Just Asking Thx. Please Wright Back ๐Ÿ™‚

  225. #385 by sj miller on 2011.05.25 - 3:51 pm

    Mr. Wilson,

    We were so excited about re-opening! My son and I had sooo much fun on it! But due to the 18+ rule we will not be returning! I spent alot of money for him to have fun on houses, cars. clothes, and paintball ect. Not counting what I spent on myself on As has already been mentioned second life is only 72.00 dollars per year and you get a house plus 300 lindens every week.I am not sure if this has been mentioned been teen second life was a major flop! So they had the good sense to close it and allow them into regular second life with restrictions as to where the can be through age verification. Now lets talk about IMVU which is completely free, except for the things you want to purchase of course, in order to access adult content you have to be age verified this seems to work well. So I don’t understand why there2 cannot do the same. Also if someone using anything that is for adults only like clothing then anyone not age verified will see them in noob clothes. I just wanted to get it off my chest as I know what I have just said will make no difference you have already made up your mind. So two people who dearly loved will not be returning. We are soooo sad!

  226. #386 by Cody on 2011.05.25 - 2:29 pm

    It really sucks that you must be 18+ I played there to get away from my family, my only true friends were on this site. And I feel pretty stupid putting this because it makes me look like an idiot but I never really had a “real friend”. I’m always being treated harsh for who Iam and on here I felt comfortable but I guess I’ll never get that feeling again. I’m only 15 years old hopefully there would be a parental control or something. Guess I’ll see you all I’n 3 years ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    • #387 by DrChisel on 2011.05.25 - 9:19 pm


  227. #388 by tablatronix on 2011.05.25 - 9:41 am

    Are we there yet ?

    • #389 by toufovou on 2011.05.25 - 12:54 pm

      Welcome home tablatronix!!!! Almost There!!!!

  228. #390 by Kendra (LilGrayFuzz) on 2011.05.25 - 1:42 am

    When will we be able to download developer programs/files, such as StyleMaker and the Previewer? Will we have to wait for the world to re-open for that?

    Also, a question I haven’t seen you answer, or anyone else ask yet:
    How do you plan to keep under 18 kids from trying to come back? I mean, obviously you have to be 18 to have certain credit cards, but I’ve had my bank card since I was 15-ish, and that serves as a debit as well as credit. I know many places assume users are 18 because they use credit cards, but nowadays it’s just not plausible. Obviously people can say they’re 18 or over by putting in a fake birth date. Will we have to provide proof of our age with some form of identification like they do with Second Life and IMVU (and probably other places)? Because I think it would be a good idea…Just something I’ve been wondering. I can’t think of any other way you would be able to tell the difference.

    • #391 by Kendra (LilGrayFuzz) on 2011.05.25 - 1:43 am

      (also, everything being italic is starting to bug me, so..)

      • #392 by Kendra (LilGrayFuzz) on 2011.05.25 - 1:51 am

        (ignore the last comment. and this one. because I’m failing at fixing the italics.)

  229. #393 by Ereht012345 on 2011.05.24 - 11:04 pm

    You Should make for Xbox, Ps3 and all that stuff it would make there 200 Times better BUT it will take time and money so i dont think you guys want to do that but just throwing the idea out there you could make alot of money…

    • #394 by ant123789 on 2011.05.25 - 10:07 am

      That would free up a few servers…….

  230. #395 by SnyperFla on 2011.05.24 - 2:57 pm

    Will links be posted to download the ThereIM client when the time comes to reopen?

  231. #397 by franko on 2011.05.23 - 5:04 pm

    hey MW please try to find away for that we will be able to move our stuff off all of our accounts to one i understand its going to be 10 bucks a month but i have a few accounts and i wont be able to afford to pay for each account cause its going to be hard for me to make the 10 bucks a month but imma try but any way i dont want to lose all my stuff on my other accounts so if you will please try away to make it free to log in and get our stuff even if it we log in out alt accounts and we are locked in a room with no exit so there is no greifers out in about in the world lol

  232. #398 by Ashmey!! on 2011.05.23 - 12:13 pm

    i have a ? since u haf to pay a monthly fee will yall have a vip like last time or will yall just have it were everyone can buy lots and stuff?

  233. #399 by Drifa on 2011.05.23 - 5:37 am

    im saving up for there im @ 5.53 cents -..- dang dollars….!

  234. #400 by 911turbo on 2011.05.23 - 4:12 am

    I was previously banned before, I’m hoping for a fresh start in a new game. I don’t ask for my account back, but only to be able to make a new account and start over in There2.

  235. #401 by Zroy on 2011.05.22 - 5:04 pm

    I have an question.
    Will be my account kepping saved if i dont join when There2 open?
    I mean that i won’t join cause i’m 17.. and im getting 18 on this year..
    But i’ll wait.. is the only way.

  236. #402 by Hink on 2011.05.22 - 11:30 am

    I understand the perspective completely. I also want to just add one thing. My account wasn’t “banned” I believe it was closed for the charges. But they were going to reopen it before There had closed. But, take your time with my question. Love and I’m 100% sure that There “2” will be just as good if not better.

  237. #403 by ashy796 on 2011.05.22 - 11:07 am

    Will you have to pay if you have an account but don’t even go on There?

    • #404 by ken25 on 2011.05.24 - 5:43 am


  238. #405 by Hink on 2011.05.22 - 9:27 am

    Hey, Michael. I had a quick question for you if you wouldn’t mind answering it for me. I was banned on a little while before it closed. I was banned due to unauthorized charges I had on my credit card on file. Because I didn’t do anything against’s rules would I be allowed back into the game? I am over 18 and I would once again pay for an account. Monthly charges to keep running seems fair enough to me.

    • #406 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 9:45 am

      Unauthorized charges were a big problem for There. First, they cost us money (for the chargeback), second, we got dinged with PayPal, which impacted our transaction fees, AND could get them to stop allowing us to use them.

      • #407 by Hink on 2011.05.22 - 9:51 am

        I see. My main question is: Would I be allowed back into I understand There’s issues with chargebacks and I wouldn’t be using my credit card. Most likely I would use the paypal to do anything that concerns the Therebucks or membership payments. If it comes to it, I will use a credit card. But, I’ll be using it on a much more secured level.

      • #408 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.22 - 10:48 am

        We don’t know yet. I’m just making sure you understand our perspective.

  239. #409 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.22 - 6:26 am

    Ok, I did not know where to go to ask a question, but since it’s a question I will use this tab area:
    Someone is asking, “what payment methods will MW use? I have looked and looked for the answer…Has the payment methods been determined and if yes, please show me where you found the answer…in other words, show me the carfax!!! or ‘There’ fax !!!
    Thank you in advance,

  240. #410 by ant123789 on 2011.05.21 - 4:10 am

    Michael i don’t think people will pay $10 for thereIM alone, i would pay but others may hang on until the whole thing is up & running before signing up, apart from that, i admire the way you have explained & shown us the figures.
    I & meany others are now on a mission to spread the word……Viva La There.

  241. #411 by bigsneekie on 2011.05.21 - 3:39 am

    by the way i love so much i have the game box in my club on kaneva lol its called the block house come check it out one night welcome anytime

  242. #412 by bigsneekie on 2011.05.21 - 3:37 am

    mike im bigsneekie we met in my bf joe dantonios hood one night it was like the coolest thing to because everyone talked about u an i never new who they ws talkin about .but any how i would like to suggest that if u cant advirtise maybe all of us in there that love it could figure a way to advirtise there .com for u would that help out ? if so i will do what ever i can to put the idea out there .as many as there is that love the game an different personalities im sure we can get other ppl to help with this idea free of chrge of courseive been banned before but it was over dumb childish things but u no i love there so much it would nt matter to me if i could come back or not i just think the world should be on for ppl to enjoy because every one should exsperience it at least once it is deffinitly the best virtual world ive ever played so tell me what u think an illl put word out to help u get the advirtising u need on our part ty buddy an i hope it works out this time ill help all i can

  243. #413 by 70IamLeon on 2011.05.20 - 9:58 pm

    Yes, I never took off my computer. I try to log on every day since it closed.. I even tried to log on seconds after it closed. Will the software still work from before or do I have to download new software? ๐Ÿ˜€

  244. #414 by Mr_Perry on 2011.05.20 - 6:42 pm

    If there is ANYTHING I can do to help. I will do it galdly free of charge.
    There .com was my home away from home.
    my wife even made me a Birthday cake with a scene from there on it.
    I logged so many hours , make so many lifelong friends,
    I have been lost since that fatleful day There closed.
    and have been walking on air since I heard it is re-opening!

  245. #415 by Mr_Perry on 2011.05.20 - 6:36 pm

    God Bless you Micheal Wilson!
    Thank you for all you have done and all you are doing
    enjoyed our chat immensly when you were in there.
    and will always support you.

  246. #416 by Drifa on 2011.05.20 - 4:30 pm

    Michael can you give us an estimated time? ive been checking on There,MY HOME, EVERY SINCE the day it closed everyday,and i prayed and prayed and PRAYED that There would come back and FINALLY we have a sign on our HOME page that says There will re-open! Please im beggin youu.! and estimated time if you may!

    P.S: And you dont have to reply if you probably dont know!
    p.S.S BUT will apreciate if you do reply ๐Ÿ˜€

  247. #417 by Shanu on 2011.05.20 - 10:18 am

    I really liked There! I’m happy it’s re-opening. Too bad I can’t pay for it per month.
    Hopefully it will become free in the future (probably not)

  248. #418 by bigsneekie on 2011.05.20 - 5:35 am


    • #419 by Nancy on 2011.06.30 - 2:59 am

      Honestly, If you’re broke, Why would you even think about spending $10 a month on a game?

  249. #420 by 70IamLeon on 2011.05.19 - 8:44 pm

    You mentioned the branching method.. Starting with blog and emails.. What’s the plan on letting the rest of the world know? I think the biggest issue with pay now is the people who have never tried it. Choose wisely what you offer the people who want to feel it out first.

  250. #421 by Corb on 2011.05.19 - 4:54 pm

    what is the chances of vmtv coming back????

  251. #423 by PopOff aka xzelma15x on 2011.05.19 - 7:34 am

    So i never really spoke to you micheal, everytime you appear i wud try and chase you down just to share some of my ideas and opinions right before closed, im not sure it wudve made sense, cuz i was still a child, but i just want to share my opinion on all of what happened with this game. i began playing at the early age of 15, i didnt have the money to pay for premium so i had to beg my mom for it, eventually she gave in and paid for me and herself, i made my 40 yeard old mother fall in love with this game, thats very rare considering the fact she never uses the computer. After i had finally achieved my premium i was excited, i met so many people, older then me, and younger then me, basically i became so addicted i was forced to stop playing the game and eventually i had to take a break due to the fact i had school, and household responsibilites. enough about that now, i didnt join cuz of the graphics, or the clothes, or the items or the cool places and all of the material things, i joined cuz i wanted someplace to blend in with people, to fit in, a place where people didnt care how i looked or how i acted. i met my four awesome best friends on this game ๐Ÿ˜€ we have been together since 2005 until 2011 to this day ๐Ÿ™‚ i dont really remember what day i joined but it doesnt matter, my old account got banned due to the fact one of my friends logged in and rowed out a island guide, no worries a made a new account and thats my main one now. after all the things me and my friends went through, on this game, when we found out it was closing, we were on the entire week until it finally closed, we were on avie sacrifice and we were falling until eventually the game screen went black and there was gone. so many people were sad, they went on youtube and posted so many videos it was a big deal. especially to those who were designers and promoters, who actually “cared” about this game being successful. i recieved a message yesterday by one of my closest friend. her words exactly “pack your backpack and move out of whatever game ur playing because there is back” i didnt even blink. i screamed and called everyone i knew that there was back, because i hanged out with one of the largest group who played, there. i dont really care for the payment, but some of my friends are under 18+. i just want to say thank you for finally making a decision to finally reopen PLEASE DONT EVER CLOSE IT EVER AGAIN!! โค and dont change anything about it because it was great the way it was and the payment plans are great. ten dollars a month is a great price. for those who cannot pay that, i guess you can borrow some cash for the first month. working hard to achieve what you want in life ๐Ÿ™‚ well goodluck micheal i look forward to seeing this game rise once more.

  252. #424 by cheryle on 2011.05.19 - 7:25 am

    i was a island guide will there still be island guides

    • #425 by mimi06 on 2011.05.29 - 3:08 pm

      no Ig’s at this time.

  253. #426 by Tim on 2011.05.19 - 7:11 am

    So what Exactly will we be getting for our monthly charge except access to the online world?????????? Will we get a weekly allowance of tbux? will we get a free porta zone ? will we get a free house or will we get nothing except the access????

    • #427 by Tim on 2011.05.19 - 5:29 pm

      Michael Wilson tell me what we will be getting for our money.

  254. #428 by Edav on 2011.05.19 - 6:05 am

    If I can’t go back for free just to try it out I won’t be coming back.

    • #429 by ken25 on 2011.05.23 - 5:52 am

      you already tried it out for free, why would you want to try is out again? It will be pay to play every month. so if ya cant make it, take care then.

  255. #430 by Meg on 2011.05.19 - 3:23 am

    I paid for my < 18 year old daughters prem account and paid for all her gear. Will I be able to have access to her account? To take back her invetory. It's a shame we won't be able to be in the game together. We had so much fun.

  256. #431 by Jon on 2011.05.19 - 2:18 am

    hey ..i am really very happy that there is re-opening but i don’t have enough money with me…will there free of cost on creating account like it was earlier after some time??

  257. #432 by Achenar on 2011.05.18 - 6:32 pm

    Just a thought for those Thereians struggling with the concept of monthly payments: Thetre is nothing to be worried about as long as it is clear how to cancel.

    So suck it in!! Get a second job if you have to . Tell your friends. You’ll soon get used to it. Enjoy!!!!!!! See y’all soon at Dune Valley!!

  258. #433 by Saint Vattica on 2011.05.18 - 6:07 pm

    Mr Wilson,

    What exactly is the reasoning behind not supporting humans under age 18 for There2? I have read in one place that it is because you cannot protect them content wise and now recently read that it is because the younger kids did not pay enough into the system. I’m just looking for some clarification.

    P.s I turned 18 this year so I’m in the clear no matter what and I would like to add I’m extremely happy with your decision to reopen There.

    • #434 by Heavendreamer on 2011.05.20 - 12:39 pm

      @ Achenar:
      It’s not really about content; its about protecting minors. Some have included in their posts the ideas that the younger crowd doesn’t pay enough(or that they are more responsible for griefing), and while that may or may not be true, it isn’t really the issue. I believe MW commented that protecting minors is the most expensive cost involved in running There. Unfortunately it is way to expensive for them to run the world if they have to contend with that along with whatever other expenses are necessary in order to make it work.

      Oh, and my nick in There is Destiny_Campbell: Nice to “see” you again Achenar! I can’t wait to be racing again in Dune Valley! (Assuming that Zone gets reopened by whoever ran it before)
      Hope you’re doing well, It will be nice to see you There again ๐Ÿ˜€

    • #435 by Heavendreamer on 2011.05.20 - 12:48 pm

      Some people brought up the bit about the younger crowd not paying enough, but the actual reason given by MW was that it is just too expensive to try to adequately protect minors in There.

      ps. my There nick is Destiny_Campbell – good to see you here Achenar! I look forward to seeing you and all my other racing buddies in There! I sure hope whoever ran Dune Valley and the other zones in the racing circuit will be reopening them!

      • #436 by Achenar on 2011.05.28 - 12:50 am

        Hey DC :)) Nice to hear from you…. and look forwrd to seeing you in game – hopefully at Dune Valley if its still there…. BTW – Its been quite a while since I was last 18 yrs old ;))

  259. #437 by Achenar on 2011.05.18 - 12:38 pm

    I think There2 could be a really good place for national or international corporate or family meetings. Its combination of both voice and typed communication together with a fast response time (minimal lag) could be really effective. The written log of what has been typed is another benefit.

    It would just need to be marketed effectively.

  260. #438 by Achenar on 2011.05.17 - 7:39 pm

    Here’s a bribe for you Michael: You open There2 and I’ll let you marry my sister (she’s almost a virgin). :))

    • #439 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.17 - 9:09 pm

      Sorry, but bribes won’t help.

    • #440 by There Lover on 2011.05.18 - 3:07 am


    • #441 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.18 - 12:24 pm

      Hey !!!!!!!! No need for the bribes now rofl

  261. #442 by XenosLangley on 2011.05.17 - 6:28 pm

    I have read the problems with the gambling aspect, and I can understand why There would like to stay clear of that all together. As far as the Sex/Nudity part, I personally wouldn’t like that a part of the game either. I was just thinking more of the marketing of a PG-13 contented game being sold as a AO one. I am glad to hear that there will be some blood/violent content added to the game, not because I’m into the violence of a Sociall MMO, but at least that is something that can be marketed to an 18 and older community.

  262. #443 by XenosLangley on 2011.05.17 - 6:00 pm

    I’m excited about the prospect of There reopening, and I understand the financial burden it was having by having a one-time-pay subscription. In saying that, if you want the masses to pay for a game that they once played for 10 bucks, or for free, then as a consumer, I want more content for my buck. Im just guessing that it’s going to be hard to market a 18-and-older game without any Adult Content. I know it cost the company a ton of money to make the environment safe for the minors, but if someone had never played There before, and was looking for a game with an Adult Rating, what would be the appeal to them? The 3 things that AO rated games tend to have are Sex/Nudity, Violence, and/or Gambling….There has none of these. The bottom line is, you cant just change a rating without changing some of the content, I dont think the masses will buy into it. I miss There, and I hope by some miracle it does make a successful return.

    • #444 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.17 - 6:08 pm

      Well, I’m kind of curious about the multiplicity of names from this IP address…

      That aside, we’ve said we would life the ban on “Blood and Guts”, so I guess that covers your violence (we’ll draw the line at truly disturbing stuff, I’m afraid) (I’m talking about things like intestines spilling out of Avatars and the like).

      As for Gambling, I hope you’ve been keeping up with Current Events here in the U.S. The FBI (the REAL FBI, not the people who regularly threatened me on our forums ๐Ÿ™‚ ), just seized a bunch of online gambling sites. We’re not into the whole seizing and incarceration thing, thanks anyway.

      I hope we’ve been pretty clear here that you would be getting There – as a sustainable business – unlike what it ever was before – for a monthly charge. Improvements (beyond the stuff already in the oven, like DX9 support, OSX support, improved avatars) will come after we’ve proven we can run. Then, like any other business, if there are profits, we’d invest in improvements.

      • #445 by Danielle--Ella882k6 in There on 2011.05.17 - 6:17 pm

        Michael, both me and Xenoslangley share the same computer he is my boyfriend, and my computer is useless so I have to use his… There should only be two names coming up with this IP address…

    • #446 by there_forever on 2011.05.17 - 8:55 pm

      Hey Xenos and Danielle, no offense and I dont mean this in a bad way but there are plenty of other places to get off on your pixel avies. There is SL, RLC and who knows which other places.
      Having a no bloodgamblesex virtual world for adults will be unique and IF correct advertising and marketing is done I am 100% sure that it will attract thousands of adults who arent looking for sex, blood and gambling!!!
      Perhaps MW you should use the no sex, no blood, no gambling idea to actually advertise There. Just an idea that came to me just now!

      • #447 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.17 - 9:13 pm

        I have to remind folks that we’ll probably relax the restrictions on “Blood and Guts” on Developer items. It’s not going to go as far as disturbing items, like spilling intestines or you-can-only-imagine, but we’re not sure banning the rest of the items in a 18+ world would make complete sense.

      • #448 by Danielle--Ella882k6 in There on 2011.05.18 - 4:57 am

        I’ve played there for a VERY long time, it’s where i met xenos. Personally I hate SL, the only time i’ve ever even tried it was when There shut down for maintenance… and as soon as There was back up SL was deleted. When There closed I didn’t even try to find a game similar to there, cause I knew nothing would be like it. I went to Aion, and Guild wars… which lets just say for me will NEVER compare to There. I personally love there, because of the friends I met. If it were up to me, I’d pay whatever I had to a month to play, (but I don’t make the mula in the house)… cause I like the old there. I personally don’t care if anything really changes. The only thing I will miss is those players that were under 18 that I became friends with. I think they were an important part of the game. Not every 14 year old was annoying and ruined the game for others…

      • #449 by ant123789 on 2011.05.21 - 4:23 am

        I must have played every virtual world & NOTHING can beat There, the only thing i didn’t like about there was it shutting down every day for maintenance lol

  263. #450 by DUSTIN4040 on 2011.05.17 - 3:14 pm

    What if we already was a premium member would we have to pay every month or is it free for us

    • #451 by Cwby4ever on 2011.05.17 - 5:54 pm

      Its a brand new start over, you have to pay again.

  264. #452 by HoverboatPilot on 2011.05.16 - 9:07 am

    Hello again Mr. Wilson. Just got a couple more ideas to share with you..

    I read that you were thinking about ways to combine multiple avatar inventories/merging accounts. One way that LOTRO (Lord of the Rings Online) does this is having a physical vault that you can open and exchange items in and out of multiple locations in world. This could be the equivalent of their “shared storage” as it’s called which allows avatars on the same account to access and trade items between characters. The shared storage itself wouldn’t have to be very large, but just big enough to transfer bulk amount of items at a time.. maybe 50-100 storage slots? Another variation of this could be some type of chest or container that could be placed in a zone with permissions that can allow multiple avatars to access. The owner could add or remove avatar names of the people that can have access to it. I know this would take more hours of code writing to make something new, but still an option.

    The other possibility is instead of merging the inventories, how about merging associated avatars (owners that can prove all accounts belong to them) into one account. The user would log into said account, then be able to choose what avatar name to be logged into world and keep that avatars inventory in tact. Of course this would only allow the user to have one avatar at a time (that is claimed to that account) instead of having multiple computers/clients open to use different avatars at the same time. To reference LOTRO again, when you create a new account with them, you start with 3 character slots, with the option to purchase up to 6 more from their store. I think this could possibly work but I’m sure that’s debatable. I do realize that if the avatars were merged into one account, then you would potentially lose the monthly fee for people who want multiple avatar names, but then again, I know you and your team haven’t figured out the details quite yet. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Anyway, I hope these added ideas will help!


  265. #453 by WynC on 2011.05.15 - 4:20 pm

    Now that the surveys are closed we all have to cross our fingers. I’m willing to pay anything to play There it was a great experience and had lot’s to do. Well here we go!

    • #454 by ken25 on 2011.05.16 - 10:14 am

      I’m praying it will reopen. And i have this feeling it will. Think POSITIVE people!

    • #455 by Itachi on 2011.06.20 - 3:52 pm

      i’ve talked to john reid from yow now and he banned me from vonira because i sad there is fun and i love there etc. so yeah dont go with vonira saty with there!!!

  266. #456 by HoverboatPilot on 2011.05.15 - 8:00 am

    Mr. Wilson,

    Since There closed over a year ago I’ve started playing Lord of the Rings Online. I started off doing some beta testing for them prior to their Free2Play launch in September. I’ve enjoyed the game quite alot since it’s an MMO and has many of the qualities There had, such as decorating housing, text and voice chat with other players, and nearly seamless transitions between areas.

    Their payment platform starts at $15 monthly but any grouping of months (3mo, 6mo, 12mo) all drop the price to $10/month when purchased. I think this would be a convenient way to do There’s pricing as well. In addition to that, LOTRO offers 500 Turbine Points each month that you do multi month bundles as well. Now, I know that you probably won’t be offering any additional Tbux with the monthly subscription, but just as suggestion anyway. Some of the other things that the VIP members get (the ones who pay the monthly subscriptions, not the free players) get many more benefits as well, such as: larger inventory, more wardrobe space for outfits, and larger auction house spaces. I think some of these same things could apply to There if considered.

    I’m not opposed to free trials, but I think limiting access to free trials to just the “Welcome Walkway” as we had before could work. From there using the video monitors or other means of video playback to show more of the things you can do in There to promote purchasing the subscription. I don’t think trial memberships should have voice or any inventory at all until they opt for paying. Maybe even having a doid only name tag until they purchase the subscription would be interesting too, that way you don’t have to waste time picking your name (or using up names) for the trial members.

    If you’re in need of some free Bug Busters again just give me a buzz via email and I’ll be happy to slap the ol green bug back on!

    Well, I think that’s my $.02 so I hope to see you all in There soon!



    • #457 by ken25 on 2011.05.15 - 12:23 pm

      I dont think well see any free anything in There. they need to make money make it fast and as much as they can. The more great ideas i read and hear about, they all get shutdown for one reason or another on here it seems. So If there reopens, it reopens, if it closes back down in a year or two it wont be our fault. I just hope certain people have learned from their mistakes. I love to see there reopen, but if it dont, dont worry another one that looks feels and is basicly 80% the same will be out in September of this year. so not all is lost =D

      • #458 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.15 - 3:32 pm

        Really? What would that be?

      • #459 by ken25 on 2011.05.16 - 9:55 am Basicly the same looking as, all the games we had before, buggies, paintball dancing emoting, hoverboards..water surfing to. Reading back over what i said before, i guess i sounded a bit rude. Sorry, did not mean to come off that way. Trust me i love to see back up and running, and i will pay to play, both games realy. Anyway I guess that’s what ya asked. and sorry again if i came off sounding like a A__s.

      • #460 by there_forever on 2011.05.17 - 9:01 pm

        Ken, no offense my friend but IF YowNow opens and IF you decide to play both worlds and they find out at YowNow that you are on, trust me on this one…
        you will be BANNED for life from YowNow.

        BTW, last I heard, YowNow is opening September 31st and if that doesn’t go well the next opening date will be November 31st.
        They also have one more back-up date. February 30th

        BTW, since you will be on, why would you also want to be on a clone of instead of going somewhere else totaly different?

      • #461 by ken25 on 2011.05.18 - 6:06 am

        I dont think they can do that without getting sued lol. that’s like World of warcraft banning everyone that played everquest. Dont make sence if they are still getting my money. AND if they do ban me, then no worries, i still want to play There more. One more thing Yownow gfx need a good gfx card to run, not like there does.

      • #462 by EternalQuasar on 2011.05.31 - 10:06 pm

        Vonira is already facing Legal Suit(s) by both slandered ex-member’s and ex-employee’s (like myself), *if* YowNow opens I am sure the Federal Gov’t. will be riding their trail since my case has to do partially with planning (on the part of ‘John’ Reid Iford) of going against the ADA.

        Michael as alway’s I offer my service’s for $1/year Consultant Fee – Basically the same position I had at Vonira but I’m willing to do it for free basically…


  267. #463 by SuAdE on 2011.05.15 - 1:30 am

    Hello Mr. Wilson :]
    I have an inquiry regarding possible funding for a “future” There and payment process for members if There decides to reopen. Not sure if these have been posted as of yet or thought of by yourself and staff.
    Perhaps you can offer the use of timecards with a certain value ($10, $20) at a local store such as Target, Walmart, etc, or maybe use the pay-by-phone method. It would free up the limitations of just being able to use a credit/debit card to make purchases and seems like a feasible approach for those that are hesitant in submitting their credit info online or would just rather pay by cash. As an extra incentive, you can probably do a rewards system so if you buy a certain amount you receive a certain amount of credits. You can redeem those credits for ingame items like a free month of rent at one of the many There homes, an exclusive portazone or maybe even a vehicle that’s modelled differently than the default vehicles, and so forth.
    As for the “future” funding, you can make an App available for $1.99 or so that gives you updates about There activites on ThereCentral, lets you IM your friends on your BuddyList, check the There auctions and/or check your There submission status (Pending, Approved, Denied) and even purchase Therebucks through your device (iPod touch, iPhone, iPad, Blackberry,etc). You can also offer real accessories you can buy. For example, a basic t-shirt with the There logo and your avatar on the back with it’s colored nametag above it’s head.
    These are a few suggestions I had and hope you’d consider them. I played There when I was 18, five years has come and gone but I remember fun times on There vividly :] I hope it gets reborn.

    – SuAdE

  268. #464 by Jerry on 2011.05.14 - 7:15 pm

    Hey MW, remember when those clowns somehow stole a copy of There’s client and ran it on their own servers? How did some low-down losers with hardly a dime in their pocket get There up and running for next to nothing but it costs you 30k? Just curious.

    • #465 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.14 - 7:19 pm

      There’s no proof that actually happened. Pretty doubtful, in fact.

    • #466 by There Lover on 2011.05.16 - 5:10 am

      Actually that didn’t happen. The “Client” that you are referring to is the Stand Alone of There. In that Stand Alone, MW and others made Sure that nobody could use that for online purposes. So it really never happened.

  269. #467 by Jerry on 2011.05.14 - 6:53 pm

    Hey Michael with the monthly fee would you throw in an unlimited portazone with 50 drops? Since SL has there premium deal at 72.00 a year and you get a 512 square meter place. Don’t you think that would be fair? Then of course we will want to upgrade and pay more for additional space and add maybe another drops by paying extra. Kick that around please. Thank you. Jerry66

    • #468 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.14 - 7:18 pm


    • #469 by ken25 on 2011.05.15 - 12:16 pm

      lol that’s like a NO with a backhand…
      There will be the same as before, only things will change is 18+ and have to pay a monthly fee.

  270. #470 by Jimer on 2011.05.13 - 9:58 am

    I still think we should pay per year.. just saying

    • #471 by ken25 on 2011.05.14 - 5:47 am

      I can pay 120 bucks up front for a years worth.

  271. #472 by Mikey on 2011.05.12 - 8:44 pm

    How will the greeters work in this new there? Also, will they receive the same benefits as before? I look forward to paint balling again, this new there should prove interesting. Really hoping the the charts yield promising results so we can finally get back to the good old days. Spent six years playing There and placed quite a substantial amount of time into the game, life just isn’t the same without it. Please bring us the game that changed all of our lives back Michael, only you can do it. Good luck.

  272. #473 by Freddie Freeloader on 2011.05.11 - 10:14 pm

    Is Michael Wilson setting things up to take the money and run again?

    • #474 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.12 - 2:31 pm

      Actually Fred, MW is setting things up so that you can take the money and run! ;O

      • #475 by Heavendreamer on 2011.05.20 - 12:07 pm

        What money? Do you still not understand that There was paying money to support the World but was NOT making any? You can’t run off with money you never got; they were not making enough to keep the game running, therefore any money they did receive went into just keeping it online, not in their pockets. I hope I don’t sound hostile here, but it really irks me that MW et al are trying to create a working model to bring There back to us, yet there are still those who want to throw around accusations that have no basis in fact.

        @ Michael Wilson ~ I for one am grateful for your efforts, and sorry you have to put up with the abuse of those few who just don’t seem to understand.

        Also: I will gladly do all that I can to promote the world (maybe post videos – once I figure out how to make them) of in-world activity to my FB page etc (I am assuming that’s allowed since I see videos of all over YouTube)

        Thanks again for your efforts, and those of everyone at Makena. I am so excited and can’t wait to get back in There, now that I have read that you ARE re-opening!
        Woohoo!!! Grats to you all, and yay for us! lol

  273. #476 by KENAN YILDIZ on 2011.05.11 - 12:33 pm

    I would want to take back my “mavi” account and play “there” again.

  274. #477 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.11 - 5:59 am

    It’s not letting me reply to the comment tree so I’m writing this here, in regards to the parental consent form – Isn’t it possible to have some sort of form that can only be filled out with information the adult would have, such as credit information, social security number or whatever is deemed fit and probabl cant be obtaine dby the 13 year old without the parent knowing about it?

    • #478 by ken25 on 2011.05.13 - 11:08 am

      lol I would never give out my SS number to anyone and nether should the parents….well to a game site…..and i hope they have a better firewall then Sony did. They shot themselves in the foot

      • #479 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.13 - 4:35 pm

        I’m not saying it would appeal to everyone. But SL, for example, does have that option, in case someone does want to age verify badly enogh and/or trusts the legal agreement stating it wont be used.

  275. #480 by Unknown on 2011.05.10 - 10:35 am

    Mhmmm Right…Just Concerned…Like I said before Take your time MW… But I was still planning on buying a Hood which I already set up and made a video out of and when you get that available does the certain acre’s have drop down limits for instance if you have a 20 acre you can only have 5 lots? Or is it Unlimited? If it reopens.

  276. #481 by Okalnix on 2011.05.10 - 10:15 am

    Its a good thing so you get 18+ people as an adult can be treated as an aldult.
    Comunication and less drama and more respectful to other people.
    behave properly and you have more fun in the game.

    Let’s keep things friendly and restart the There Server.

  277. #482 by Unknown on 2011.05.09 - 2:30 pm

    And how are you for sure That 18+ Will pay for the game to. Just because some people are under 18 dont mean we cant afford it because you made the game free so their not gonna pay but if it wasnt free they’d pay 9 out of 10 would. So yah thats kind of messed up Not all 18+ would pay I met others who were 40 and still were noobies. They still can drive buggy’s trial cloths so why they gonna pay for?

    • #483 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.09 - 11:17 pm

      He knows this because he’s the game’s owner… He has al the numbers of who paid how much and he can see how many people under a certain age did or didnt pay.

      And I hate to breka it to you but the 9 out of 10 statistic is completely bogus, I met way more basic emmbers that were under 18 than I met premium memb ers under 18.

  278. #484 by Yuuuur on 2011.05.09 - 10:38 am

    I must quote something on the FAQ page of the official site – but then we’d lose members ————- (many of those young people which There serves best)————–, and it wouldn’t total out.

    Exactly. A massive amount of the There community are under 18. If you’re going to make the game strictly 18+, consider the reopening a failure…

    • #485 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.09 - 10:40 am

      Ok. Explain how we will cover the number of fulltime people we’ll need to properly protect folks under 18 whenever the service is open.

      That’s the issue: Cost.

      The fact was, people under 18 didn’t spend enough to cover the cost to support them properly.

      As much as I’d like to change that, I can’t. Sorry.

      • #486 by Yuuuur on 2011.05.09 - 1:02 pm

        So how about a system that Secondlife has in place? Maturity level regions/areas. Those that are under 18 stick to under 18 areas, with those that have accounts over the age of 18 barred from said areas unless they have some form of right to be there (such as staff). It’s restrictive but possibly an alternative to a strictly 18+ There, and would cut back on the possibility of ‘child to adult in-world relationships’ and the need of the staff to protect teens.

        I’m sure both children and adults didn’t spend an amazing amount in world, but I have reason to believe this is because of the very low cost to play. We were given lifetime memberships for a -very- low price and the many things that came with it. In my experience I didn’t have that much of a desire to get Tbucks because of the things I could get without them. You say that children by a majority are the ones that do not pay much. However, I tend to find that when things are so easy to obtain freely, I have very little desire to pay for them, as others would as well. Make things more exclusive, and people will be more inclined to pay for them.

        If you’re going to exclude under 18’s, you’re losing far too many players and the game will decline… I think it’d be better to try running a There with teens than without. And there is no reason to believe that teens will not pay the subscription, because look to games such as World of Warcraft and e.t.c. A majority of their players are in fact teens and do pay for the game. If you are going to give people things for so little, how can you expect to keep up with costs?

      • #487 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.09 - 11:15 pm

        Wouldn’t an age verification form for parents to sign and send in basically make things so much easier? A form could release THERE of legal liability n the department.

      • #488 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.10 - 5:05 am

        We had one of those for people under 13 with There. You should have seen some of the signatures that came in. Some of those adults wrote like 10 year olds!

    • #489 by INVU34 on 2011.05.23 - 7:55 am

      You know it is not just about how much 18 and under made up or even how much they spent. It is their safety that is the primary reason for not making it 13+ again. As Michael has said over and over again it is the law that you can not as a minor enter into a contract. It is sad I agree as I had my children playing there as well, and will deeply miss interacting with them in there, but as a parent I was scared having them there and not being able to monitor their every move. It is just safer for them and MW as well. I for one do not want to see him in a lawsuit and closed once again!

      • #490 by King_Scorpion/Dragon_Rider on 2011.05.24 - 5:07 pm

        I also had an underage daughter in the game with me (consent formed), and she’d play with her cousin around our neighborhood. however, I totally agree, I couldn’t monitor her enough and was very scared for her safety. I fully support the 18+ membership (not as if I/we have a choice lmao) and I’m very happy about the decision. But, anyway, Kudos Mr Wilson on re-opening There (There 2).
        Now, if I may voice a concern for this pay for membership. I spent about $20 bucks a month in There between me and my daughter just for T-bucks to buy virtual goods. so, just for me $10.00 won’t be So hard to do, as I’ll spend another $10.00 for T-bucks each month (probably). however, with this monthly or multi-monthly payment (as we have that option), will there be any kind of T-bucks return for our membership fees, Or, is this fee simply a cover charge to get in the door? this may have an impact on how many players return. Way back before it was finally closed, I think I remember discussions on this subject, but I’ve never been clear how it was gonna work

      • #491 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.24 - 6:06 pm

        Right now, it’s a “Cover Charge”: that’s what we asked people to vote on. I understand people all want something extra, but we’re trying to cover real costs here, not make some obscene profit. The T$ purchases will help cover any difference between the “I voted yes for paying” and “I changed my mind”, or other suggestions about where I could put my subscription fees.

  279. #492 by beta member on 2011.05.08 - 10:50 pm

    everyone is moaning about having to pay but doesnt a lifetime membership mean lifetime or is that just a term i thought life in america ment life not just a few years i and my wife are both beta lifetime members so please calirfy if a lietime member gets t get back into there if it opens at no charge as its been asked a few times on your boards but no real clarifacation thank you

    • #493 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.09 - 9:12 am

      He made it pretty clear that the monthly charge applies to everyone. If everyone that had a lifetime membership got their accont back for free, very few people inw orld would be left paying, and THERE would fall right out of business.

      • #494 by Beta2003 on 2011.05.10 - 7:40 am

        There are not many ‘lifetime’ members (ie: those of us that joined before the public launch were given an opportunity to PAY for a lifetime account). Based on what I’ve read between the lines, we might see an option that has those few members have no monthly charge (or a reduced monthly charge), no transfer of ownership and you still have to pay for any metered services that may choose to use.

        I know that even if our Beta accounts stay grandfathered in, I’ll STILL subscribe to keep at least one of my other accounts active to support the service.
        My family members accounts were not lifetime either.

      • #495 by ken25 on 2011.05.13 - 11:11 am

        I was a lifetime member. And i would be glad to pay 10 bucks a months. I need to make some movies again! and DL some old addons to get my camera back lol

  280. #496 by RikuIan on 2011.05.08 - 5:42 pm

    My friend told me about the re-opening of There. I was so darn happy. When There closed, other games couldn’t replace the joy and the feeling of belonging at There. I’m 15 and I never hated their new ways of not letting 18 below play. It doesn’t matter. If I have to wait for 3 years It’s alright. There must go on with or without me. Please do re-open There. Thank you Mr. MW for trying. Oh and yes, the Bunny Shoes were free during the last days of There.

  281. #497 by Dontay on 2011.05.08 - 4:32 pm

    Hi, Great idea to bring back There. Thought: I dont think you would have trouble getting previous players to come back but may need to add more as in things to do, fun , entertaining etc.. to entice new players to come and pay to play

  282. #498 by Mackena on 2011.05.08 - 3:49 pm

    Okay… I had a few accounts and three of them were beta (for my family that played as well) … HOW and where can I go to double check which ones are lifetime memberships? And is there a place to still retrieve account info?

  283. #499 by Matias on 2011.05.08 - 12:15 pm

    I acquired tons of Bunny Shoes, because they were free, the last few days. Will I be able to keep them?
    I expect There’s return anxiously

    • #500 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.08 - 12:50 pm

      “For Free”? I recall we made paintball refills free, but Bunny Shoes?

      • #501 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.08 - 4:10 pm

        yup, the team colored bunny shoes and the cracked game were all free.

      • #502 by Matias on 2011.05.10 - 12:44 pm

        Yesh, you made them free

    • #503 by whitefeatherbeth on 2011.05.13 - 4:10 am

      You only have two feet right? hmmm ;))

  284. #504 by mrb7041 on 2011.05.08 - 11:46 am

    I just have two comments for Mr. Wilson. First, I don’t believe that former members should have to pay a subscription fee to get back into the game. This seems to be quite unfair to the previous users of There, especially the premium members. These premium members have already had to pay for their membership and shouldn’t have to pay again just to be able to get their avatar back and be able to play There again. If something could be done about this subscription fee, preferably it be eliminated, there will be much more previous There users that will come back and play There once again. Second, though this can relate to the first point I made, I believe that beta users should be given privileges or benefits. I think that beta users should be allowed to play There2 for free (again no subscription fee) and possibly get other benefits in the game. I don’t know if you’re going to have a demo of There2 or a beta version or whatever. However, beta users, I believe, should receive some sort of benefit from waiting for There to come back and staying with it the whole time. I, myself, am a There beta user and joined when it first started (in 2003 if I remember correctly). I have stuck with There throughout the years and have wished it to come back ever since it closed down. So, on behalf of the several beta users out there, and premium members, I believe that there should be no subscription fee for these users, if not all previous users, and I suggest that beta users be given special benefits in-game.

    • #505 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.08 - 12:49 pm

      Again, if you would like There to operate so that Premium members don’t have to pay a subscription fee, then that’s how There is operating today.

      It’s not possible for a one-time fee to support the service, as has been aptly demonstrated.


      • #506 by tom on 2011.05.10 - 4:54 pm

        Mr. Wilson If the new There2 is to open all should pay including Beta I have heard rumors of the Beta accounts still being free if thats the case then to bad for me for not joining a few months sooner.There are other incentives you can give our Beta users for there contrabutions to there,com

  285. #507 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.07 - 11:25 pm

    I know you mentioned that the poll ending times are flexible due to the unsent emails. Any idea when the poll might be closing now that eails have been sent, or when we might have our answer asto There’s fate?

  286. #508 by theredaily on 2011.05.07 - 2:10 pm

    Hi Mr.Wilson I made my new ThereDaily worldpress blog it should appear right now it’s active oh and I wanted to say that if you do open could you give me a sneak peek of it before or any new news on twitter(@ThereDaily)or on our blog if u can’t find it go to haha thanks -ThereDailyTeam!

    • #509 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.08 - 9:43 am

      I cannot find your blog….could you post a link if its ok?

  287. #511 by Ally on 2011.05.07 - 10:01 am

    Mr.Wilson, can you give us an aproximate date when will reopen? at least when do you think it will? ๐Ÿ™‚ thank you!

    • #512 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.07 - 2:06 pm

      You mean IF ‘There’ opens ๐Ÿ™‚

      • #513 by Ally on 2011.05.07 - 11:26 pm

        yeah ๐Ÿ™‚

  288. #514 by A happy person on 2011.05.07 - 6:20 am

    yes and i forced my therian brother to take it tooo

  289. #515 by Jerry on 2011.05.06 - 11:31 pm

    I do have many avatars but I will only be paying for one if it is a fair deal. I would like to see if I can get into some other accounts to transfer things over to the one I pay monthly for. I am sure I have some nice things on those other accounts. Maybe we can have a day pass to certain accounts if requested? Pay a dollar for some sort of account item transfer fee for the trouble of allowing us to do this. Who knows.

  290. #516 by Jerry on 2011.05.06 - 8:54 pm

    This will be great. I hope my girlfriend in the Philippines can get her avatar going again. One thing is her income is very limited right now. So maybe she can’t come back soon. I hope she can. Marivic is her avatar name. And with any hope she will be back too. We will be back in There again. All the sweet buggies. We can go for some drives way out in the boon docks and throw down a portazone. Wow the good times could be back. Back to 2003 when There began I will feel it again. Feel the emotions of being virtual. All the sites and sounds. Duda beach, Karuna Plaza. This has to happen. I think it will. Shutting down was good so There could capture some of that revenue that Jinxtv had from reselling. As you can see on Facebook many people have the There badges on in support of the There community. We are ready with bells on to come back.

  291. #517 by Jerry on 2011.05.06 - 8:43 pm

    I sure hope opens again. I sure with I would have gotten one of those lifetime beta accounts. I missed it by a month or two I think. But anyway I might pay monthly for There if it comes back. I have a lot of things to sell and maybe I can offset my monthly cost with some sales. So if it is 7.95 a month and I earn even 5 dollars in tbucks a month I am only paying 2.95. I think 10.00 a month seems a little steep. Since I get Netflix for 7.95 I would think at the very most that would be the price. I would give 4.95 in a heartbeat without any sweat off my brow. 6.95 sounds good to me for a poor boy in Northern CA. Please check out 6.95 Michael. That is kind of a Walmart economy price. 10.00 hits us a little harder. But if you have to go 9.95 or nothing then go for it. Maybe I will go for it to get Jerry66 back up and running again. There has too much going for it really. All those great card games. Hey Michael I know you were working on the fingers of our avatars. Any chance you can have that fixed up for There 2? If not no big deal. Thanks, Jerry

  292. #518 by A happy person on 2011.05.06 - 4:42 pm

    wait wat about the kids who werent 17 when there closed but are know eighteen

  293. #519 by A happy person on 2011.05.06 - 4:32 pm

    i put the right email and sure as heck i spent over720000000 seconds but i havent received my email yet??? wat deos it even say?? i uninstalled the client to try and move on if it opens can i just download it again and sign into my old account?? so wat deos the email say..

    • #520 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.06 - 5:57 pm

      The e-mail is just to inform former members about the survey. Hopefully you took the time to take the survey since you were able to find MW’s blog.

  294. #521 by Cwby4ever on 2011.05.06 - 5:01 am

    I got the email a while back to take the survey and I did! Today I got the same email to take the survey, I didnt take the survey again as I already took it once and didnt want to look like I took it more than once.

    • #522 by Tiger100 on 2011.05.06 - 10:03 am

      It wont let you anyway

  295. #523 by Tiger100 on 2011.05.06 - 4:59 am

    What glaDOS is going to do in I’m guessing it will be the sound that will speak in newcomers tutorials?

    • #524 by Ailish on 2011.05.11 - 11:27 pm

      I’m pretty sure that it was a joke. Lol.

  296. #525 by DaraDalton on 2011.05.06 - 2:08 am

    WOOT!!!! So glad to hear about There 2!!! I have missed so many things about There: the buggies, the ability to travel inworld from place to place and all my inventory especially! MW, I commend you (and the rest) for ALL the changes you have in mind, too. Most of us knew that under 18 was a bad idea in general and we also knew who spent all the money. I think there are plenty of other opportunities for fun for the underage set and for many, many reasons it’s best to allow adults their own world.

  297. #526 by paul on 2011.05.05 - 11:33 pm

    Just to let you know I have 6 people who have filled in the survey when i have told them about it 3 are my wife, son, and me other three mother in law, sister in-law, and wifes best friend, they all used my computer to fill in the survey you may see this as trying to cheat the system but the surveys taken from my ip address are all real and not me cheating.

    • #527 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.06 - 5:29 am

      Hi Paul,
      Does this mean all of you will be playing the game ‘There’, if it opens? I ask this because the only fair thing for MW is when we fill out the survey, each person in his or her mind are truly serious about playing the game..This question is not just for you, but I think all of us need to answer the question at least in our minds…

  298. #528 by Camel on 2011.05.05 - 7:01 pm

    Mr.Wilson, some quick questions-

    – At the time There closed, I must have had about four premium avatars, the first of which falls in to the lifetime beta category. I would like the option to keep all of my avatar names, but it sounds as though it would be cost prohibitive to do so. I’m not asking for an answer today, but will you please spend some cycles working to address this? I like the idea of some kind of family plan, where avatars are loosely linked in some manner.

    – Can I keep my doid? Please?

    – Are sparkles coming back?

    Thanks for keeping us posted!

    • #529 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.05 - 7:37 pm

      No, you can’t keep your old Doid. You would get a shiny new one.

      • #530 by Sameer on 2011.05.07 - 8:30 pm

        What is a doid?

    • #531 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.05.06 - 3:32 am

      I agree with that.

    • #532 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.05.06 - 3:41 am

      I agree

      • #533 by Justin on 2011.05.20 - 12:02 pm

        These are not the doids you’re looking for!

  299. #534 by vince edwards on 2011.05.05 - 4:01 pm

    I was an avid user. I am now an IMVU fan. I think the discussions here are all good, but the big picture is missing. One of the most important foundational considerations does not seem to be mentioned. If we look at some of the “other” worlds and learn from them, then There will be in a better place. Obviously the business model did not work, but will the new one be more robust? Anyway, my suggestion is look at some of the big online systems that are doing well for growth: Facebook, Ning (back in the day), Second Life and IMVU. For example. These systems were all built because of “developers”. I should really repeat that sentence at least 5 times…. They were built and grew because they allowed “developers” to get amongst it… and “benefit” somehow from their creativity. So, Im going to highlight a very important aspect of the new business model for… Lets say, you get lots of subscribers, what will guarantee the “growth” <<<<<< Important to consider, and what will guarantee the "rentention" <<<< Important, so that people stay. Here it is: Make work for developers, because Im going to be honest (and I was one of the top developers on it did not "work" for me financially. I make money developing on IMVU, if I came back to and it started how it left off, I would not find any benefit. Im trying to highlight here, right now, that unless the new, seriously considers developers as being the "core" backbone to help it grow, then forget about it. Im not being negative, I was a strong advocate for, but I remember quite clearly, that being a developer for, was only for "fun" and nothing serious. Moving forward, it needs to get "serious" about the development/creativity/growth aspect or it will stagnate (as it did). Injecting money into it, is not the answer (you may have learned that by now?) You need loyal followers that help it grow. These are developers. Id like to talk more about it, but I'll leave it at that, since this aspect does not seem to be addressed yet. Take care, and I sincerely hope for the best.

  300. #535 by Barbie_Doll on 2011.05.05 - 10:16 am

    OMG sorry for the typos, was in a hurry and didnt edit! ๐Ÿ™‚

  301. #536 by Barbie_Doll on 2011.05.05 - 10:15 am

    Iโ€™m not campaigning to change the 18+ thing so please no โ€œOMG he said 18+ a million timesโ€ฆโ€ responses. Iโ€™m just trying to ask a few questions and concerns that if Mr. Wilson even has the time maybe he could respond to.
    Hereโ€™s my concernโ€ฆ between the teens, the people whoโ€™ve just moved on and the people who vowed never ever to come back, whoโ€™s going to be there? And those of us who do go back you all realize the dynamic is going to be totally changed, it might looks the same but itโ€™s not going to be the There that closed a year ago. The 18+ thing, while I understand the economics of it I have to ask if you have considered the other side of it? Teens tend to be more social more willing to talk to anyone and anything that happens along while adults in the virtual worlds Iโ€™ve been on like to stick together in little groups of like minded people. Without the teens I think there is a chance that one of the greatest There experiences and selling points will be gone, he large gathering place full of people just standing around socializing and people other people. I went to SL after There closed and every large gathering place in SL is the same, everyone talking to their friends in IM while local chat is just a few people spamming and screaming the F word.

    Also Adult or 18+ regardless of what you mean by it says one thing on the internet, Sex and porn. New people are going to show up and see it isnโ€™t there and leave or try to bring it in themselves. If you are not going to let it in are you really just losing the money you save by not babysitting the kids by having to babysitting the adults?

    Last, tomorrows 18+ are todayโ€™s teens. People like what they are used to. If you sign up for Kaneva (ick) or vside when you are like 15 you are more likely to stick to them when you turn 18 and not graduate to a 18+ world (unless a person is looking for a more โ€œadultโ€ experience like sex and porn). Read a few virtual world forums, a lot of people dislike other worlds especially ones they been denied access to for some reason. Remember when you tried to welcome the vsiders when vside closed and the massive hate that got thrown at There? When you tell tomorrowโ€™s potential users that you donโ€™t need or want them today, they remember.

    I see people mentioning maturity. People always complain about immature teens or teens and drama. I was 14 when I started playing There Iโ€™ll turn 20 in 3 months. Iโ€™ve found that there is no shortage of immature adult drama queens in the VL or RL, as a matter of fact some of the most the immature and drama prone people I met on There where adults. Funny thing about immaturity and teens is that most of them grow up and mature while immature dramatic adults are kind of set in their ways.

  302. #537 by Lianne23 on 2011.05.05 - 9:56 am

    Sorry for posting again, but if my avatar is below the age requirement that it should be, does that mean that i cannot return to There even though i have previously payed for a membership?

  303. #538 by Lianne23 on 2011.05.05 - 9:52 am

    Hi Michael(:
    I just feel like this is a rather important question to answer, it may be common sense, but I still would really appreciate an answer. When you say pay-per month, does that mean you have to be on There 2, and then count a month that you are on? or does a membership run throughout the month that you pay. For example, if you purchase a membership on May 5th, does it run until June 6th, or do you have to be online for a timed month?
    Also, are we going to have an oppurtunity to change our therenames in the process of renewing our membership?

    Sorry if this is confusing
    Thank you(:,
    Lianne23 (therename)

    • #539 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.05 - 12:14 pm

      No, you can’t change you Avatar name. I have no idea why that question keeps coming up. Did I subliminally suggest it?

      • #540 by There Lover on 2011.05.05 - 2:15 pm

        No I don’t believe you

      • #541 by Kendra on 2011.05.06 - 12:38 am

        Perhaps; you’ve said that we’re “starting fresh” with new avatars, just with the same inventory/buddies/etc. You also said that avatars that weren’t claimed within a certain amount of time would most likely get their names “thrown back into the pool” for others to take. So maybe that’s where it comes from.
        In my opinion, I would love to change my avatar name without losing all of my stuff. I would even pay extra to change it. I’ve seen other online services, not just virtual worlds, that give users the ability to change their name for a price, as long as nobody else has it. Maybe you could do that?

      • #542 by SnyperFla on 2011.05.26 - 12:55 pm

        They are probably getting that idea from Second Life, because their new viewer allows Avatars to change their “Display Name”. Not actually the username however.

      • #543 by CrypticAsian on 2011.06.08 - 5:00 am

        I think it keeps coming up because in the time that There’s been closed, a lot of folks started new virtual lives elsewhere under a new/different name… and now that There’s reopening (beyond expectations), they don’t want to lose the friendships or what-not that was forged under their new name; they want to “carry over” all that stuff in a way, “Know what I mean, Vern?” ๐Ÿ˜‰ And for others, changing their avie name can cut all ties to their former virtual life, the friends they had, and more importantly — the stalkers/griefers who were constantly looking for trouble. ๐Ÿ˜€

      • #544 by Skyefire on 2011.06.08 - 3:54 pm

        I don’t want to change my avatar’s name. I’d love to make the F lowercase though. Ah well

    • #545 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.05 - 10:20 pm

      I believe the subscription is set by date not time. And yes you can change your name at anytime by creating a new account with a new name. More money for, thanks for your dedication to a wonderful world I dearly miss.

  304. #546 by lionsheart on 2011.05.04 - 10:46 pm

    I want to do a 100 lap buggy race cause i know its just a stupid thing to do .
    will need to clean up all them tumble weeds scattering through out dune valley.
    i just want to drive my buggy.
    my fiat multipla just dont do ramps to well in real life :(……..

    • #547 by Ant1977 on 2011.05.05 - 10:16 pm

      I didn’t know Tumble_Weed was dirty :-O

  305. #548 by EZsin on 2011.05.04 - 6:28 pm

    I’m excited to see what happens with There2, hesitant when it comes to what amounts to investing in it though. On all my accounts I did spend a good deal of money just in purchasing the virtual items. I think I might be willing to buy 6 months membership at a time, but tragic that I will lose so much of what I had in world on the rest of the accounts. In my history I watched simsonline and there die, where I hang out now I try not to spend any cash. I hope to at least come back and see what the new world will look like and I am not sure but I think There2 might be closer to California than the place that is getting my money now, lol. Wave hello to all my friends!

    • #549 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.04 - 7:08 pm

      We’re fairly certain that If we did re-open, multi-month payments would be an option, not a requirement.

  306. #550 by secretpotion on 2011.05.04 - 4:41 pm

    if we have paid for our names on the first there will we still have to pay monthly to stay on or are we knows as paid members all ready

  307. #551 by lauraQT596 on 2011.05.04 - 4:05 pm

    I think that making the new There 18+ is a very good thing. So many problems occurred with people who were immature and causing trouble, thus being banned, and a more mature “There” could only be a good thing. Then, it becomes what it should be: A wonderful place to develop friendships and have a fun time without the added element of “drama” that the younger set caused so frequently.

    Plus, the 18 plus community has the money to invest, and if There is a passion, are more than willing to pay for a monthly service.

    I would say to Michael Wilson, go for it! The new There will be new and improved, a moneymaker for you instead of operating in the red, and everyone will be highly appreciative that the world they once occupied was back.

    Great idea, for those of us who have missed There, this is truly wonderful news!

  308. #552 by Okalnix on 2011.05.03 - 11:05 am

    All members get voice still in the game.

    Do we get a smal amount of Tbux if you pay that mounth.
    Most Tbux flow back to the game.
    Normaly if you give something back to the people online the spent more and buy more stuff.

    Say the company have problems after some time online and the same problem comes ,server cost monny.
    Can people or company donnate monny to you ‘’ to stay online if needed.
    So its more open info to people.
    Most people wanted to help you out to stay online.

    For me if I needed more to pay to get the server still running go for that.
    Ask the people befor your unplug.

    I do not wanted to know if all go well in monny by in the dollar info ,but if it go down hill give the warning and ask moor.
    So people can help you there.

    So let go and start re oping


  309. #553 by Kerry Omar on 2011.05.03 - 10:44 am

    There were people banned from there because they hacked into other’s accounts. The person I am thinking of caused trouble all over the world of there. I really hope people like that do not get back to there in any of their many avatars. Also it was sad in there to see 16 and 15 year olds hooking up with older people. When this happens in real life the person older person ends up in jail. Hopefully there will be something in force to stop this sort of thing from going on again.

    • #554 by Marianne (JoyofLife) on 2011.05.04 - 12:11 pm

      Kerry, how many times has the poor man said NO UNDER 18 will be allowed inworld? That is the “something” he is talking about to stop underage issues.

  310. #555 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.03 - 9:45 am

    Ok..This might be off topic..But I am very curious..
    In the world I go to now (SL) I am a singer entertainer..I have a stream I use to sing in real time, backed with music…I also sang in ‘There’…., I loved to entertain our fellow Therians….At the time of using there, I did not know I could stream my music ( I only held down my voice button to sing with music).. After ‘There’ closed, I found out that there were other Therians who used the streaming method to entertain others…..My question is: Will we still be able to stream our own music or instruments? I so want to be a singer in There once again, while using the quality of ‘streaming’….. Thank you MW…

  311. #556 by Alexandra on 2011.05.03 - 6:17 am

    if someone was banned from would you consider a fee to re enter the world? (if you re opened that is) or consider having warnings for say bad language or things like that, you could give out 2 warnings then ban their ip if they carried on? also there should be an option to suggest new products (paintguns, cars ect) or you could pay a fee of ยฃ5 to name a place in there without having to buy a zone the fee would just cover the name then if the buyer wanted then could pay an extra more expensive fee for rights to move things like you would a bought zone, i think it would be a smart idea not to let the person who is paying the fee not to let them ban people from the area but to warn you or a healper about them? just some ideas to help ๐Ÿ™‚ id like to hear back from you

  312. #557 by Kendra on 2011.05.02 - 10:46 pm

    Is there any way you could possibly post the Previewer and StyleMaker install files? I mean sure, I can design things without previewing them, but what fun is that? Even if There isn’t quite ready to re-open, at least we can design things for fun.
    Well I want to, at least. So, when and if There does come back to life, I have a bunch of brand new designs I can show off to the world. It will be amazing.
    Pretty please? ๐Ÿ™‚

    • #558 by Kerry Omar on 2011.05.03 - 6:31 am

      wow I sure put enough double negatives in my statement.

  313. #559 by Kerry Omar on 2011.05.02 - 6:25 pm

    MW I think if there opened again with $10 a month I would pay for two avatars and I think there are a lot of others who would do the same. I if you make it $15 a month then I would not pay for two avatars. I took the survey twice once for each avatar. I don’t know many people in there that only have one avatar. I also think you should not have given us an option not to have a monthly charge if there really was never a choice. Why give us a choice in the first place.

  314. #560 by A sad person on 2011.05.02 - 3:32 pm

    cant wait

  315. #561 by Alexandria3178 on 2011.05.02 - 2:39 pm

    Ok.. My question… None of my business really. With all the programming already existing, and all the avatars still in tact, and aside from all the initial re-start costs, How much does There cost to run per month?

    Also, When I first joined, the monthly members (yes there were monthly members back then) would receive a stipend of a certain amount of T’s If we must pay monthly for membership, will we also receive this stipend once again?

    How do I get to change my avatar here so that I can show my orange fedora!!!

  316. #562 by Therians Fan on 2011.05.02 - 10:50 am

    Will we be able to pay someone else membership subscription as a gift?

  317. #563 by beta member on 2011.05.02 - 7:07 am

    my question is this if there reopens at what ever cost to members would those that allready paid a lifetime membership be still be in effect and hounourd by there as in my brain life means life could someone please answer this thank you

    • #564 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.02 - 8:27 am

      If ‘There’ needs to charge me monthly, even though I payed a life-time membership a few years back, I am all for it…. If there needs finances, so be it! It’s great to have the possibility of ‘There’ opening once again, even though the strategy of financing changes…. way to go MW

  318. #565 by whitebutterflys on 2011.05.01 - 8:08 pm

    Im so very excited over this news!! really became a place I loved hanging around.I would like to say that I agree with paying a fee,but lets try to not make it over the top.I mean,only you guys with the numbers know what would really work.For example,If you charge 10 but dont get enough people(wich I am sure wont happen,since theres no place like There.Believe me…I tried all the virtual worlds you can Imagine)then It wont be enough For the re-opening.I do have to add that I met people from other countrys were monetary resources are not as good,and being able to pay a 1 time fee,It was kind of hard(just saying what I kind of saw is some people I met).Something that concerns me is that it will be kind of hard in my opinion to have people spending money in the game,in other words,to gain back trust.(though to be honest,I think that all of us loyal Therenians wont care as long as we get back).I do have to say that,in the other hand Im sure alot of us spent some reasonable amount of money In There,and at least to me,the question of “what happens if I start to put more money into the game and then it happens again and Decides that it did not work and that the’re close again?” (and by the way,I take my hat off to you guys for being so fair and if re-opening,giving us back all of our stuff,you guys are incredible!!!)And about younger people playing, I kind of think is unfair to them(no im not younger than 18)but if its really kind of a monetary burden,I would think about it twice.Then again,I trust you guys know what you are doing.And one suggestion,how about if you guys make a plan,You know,its always cheaper when you buy as a whole.So there could be an option where you could pay for 1 year but make it more affordable isntead of every month,or also offer the 6 month purchase.also,I know that either way,it has to be some sort of payment we would have to make,but what would happen if for any reason we cant afford to pay next month or whatever,would we loose our stuff?would the account be put on pending?if we stopped coming for a while,and we decide to come back,will we still be able to re-activate our accounts?(sorry not familiar with monthly paying accounts).Anyways,I hope something can be done and re-opens,I miss my dog!!!please!!!There,open!

    • #566 by martincool on 2011.05.02 - 10:14 am


  319. #567 by MoondustMadness on 2011.05.01 - 5:03 pm

    On April 5th, 2007 while standing around on Zona I met my future husband. I am from the United States and he was from South Africa. A year after we met on Zona I flew to South Africa to meet him and his children in person for the first time. He asked me to marry him and after that spent a year going through the whole immigration process. In September 2009 he and his two daughter’s immigrated to the United States. On September 18th of the same year we were married. Had it not been for we would have never have met each other. So needless to say… will always hold a very dear place in my heart.

    It is silly to say…but I have mourned its closing for over a year now. I almost feel lost without it. Heck…sometimes in RL I see something that triggers memories of There and my heart will immediate begin to ache. I am still amazed at how much has touched my very being. I am definitely on board to pay the monthly fee and so is my husband. I am anxious to build my paz again…so I sincerely hope that all of us who love There and want to see it come back can convince you Michael that it is worth reopening.
    Regardless of what the decision is…I appreciate you consideration.

  320. #568 by What ? on 2011.05.01 - 11:07 am

    Comeon .. Srsly . pay EVERY month about 10$ ? . Cant you just do it like to pay only once ? its much better ..

    • #569 by Tomixcomics on 2011.05.01 - 6:46 pm

      he already said in various places, THERE failed among other things BECAUSE of this. If there is n’t bringing money in, it can’t pay for itself. if it can’t pay for itself, it closes.

    • #570 by MmeOdileS AKA OdileS on 2011.05.04 - 8:25 am

      The whole reason ‘There’ closed was the lack of financial balance…If we pay a ‘One Time Fee’: 10.00 20.00 or even 30.00, the offset of balance will be totally messed up, to the point where ‘There’ could never operate.
      Again, to play a game for a monthly fee is minute IMO… As I stated before, I do believe there are ways to save money if we really want to play the game…And for those on limited income…(My husband is disabled therefore our income is very limited..) we have always found great ways to save money for leisure without breaking our money bank…I am not trying to convince anyone about saving money to play the game…but..I guess, it depends on if we really want to play ‘There’ and, how badly…IMO

  321. #571 by jacob h on 2011.05.01 - 8:37 am

    will be compatible with Macintosh? please say yes!

    • #572 by Amxscott on 2011.05.01 - 1:53 pm

      MW said in another post that YES there would be a MAC client.

      • #573 by jacob h on 2011.05.10 - 4:21 pm

        oh my god YES!

  322. #574 by Lorenda on 2011.05.01 - 8:23 am

    This is both wonderful and painful to know. I am under the age of 18, so I won’t be able to fit in..The survey results are promising that I will not be able to play. Thank you for considering to open up There 2 anyway. The excitement was great while it lasted.

  323. #575 by VoiZod on 2011.05.01 - 4:10 am

    IMO: I like the parental accounts idea, it would
    ‘Be the Answer’ to the 13+ Issue! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    #29 by Buddleia_Girl on 2011.04.30 – 5:05 am

    What about a 13+ user account being somewhat limited, and being tied to an active parentโ€™s account? Much like FusionFall, where they set up a Parental Control account, and then the childrenโ€™s accounts and permissions were tied to that one. You could go a step further, and have member complaints go directly to the parent account, and any punishments affect the parent account equally. Iโ€™m sure people would ensure their kids toed the line if their own accounts were at risk by the behavior of their children. You know, kind of how we wish the real laws were.

    About the Alt avys, and the thousands of Trail avatars made, that were never used again for what ever reason.
    could not be deleted, This built up into a mountain. IMO: why not put the Alt. avys in this parental account
    model? Like a family tree graph! hmmm?

    BUT ALL I KNOW IS THIS, ***Please***Change***Back*** If at all possible ( I know that it is, with all the VM backups )
    The IM WIndow messanger!!! This is what Killed There! Because the old light blue colored IM window messanger you
    could stay in a group conversation while racing your buggy or flying your hover boats etc.
    When the New orange colored IM window messangers came out, You would go out of the conversation with
    just about ANY click of the mouse or key board! No body could communicate anymore while racing etc. So
    the FunZones became GhostZones! It was a total nightmare still up to the time closed.

    The other thing that needs to be turned back to the way it orignaly was ( before VASH ) Ruined it IMO.
    is SPACE! Space used to be psycadelic vivid slightly trailing colors off the objects
    against the blackest of space with the stars bright, virtago lolol it was great before it was turned into a thick
    SMOG filled place! Oh yea IMO they did a cheap filter patch job on it and made the fog/smog go away and
    turn ‘Space’ black again. But the vivid colors you could see for (there space miles) away, Now just turn and fade
    to smoggy shades of gray! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Please FIX SPACE. I always have felt should be listed in the Gehnness Book of world Records and preserved
    as National Forests are IRL But ‘Preserved on the Internet’ ( and not in limbo either! ) Because There
    ( even as old as it is ) is still IMO Ahead of its time!
    Maybe not in graphics but in Communication with others with avatars that act and have
    most realistic actions/gesters and movement along with realistic physics ( driving a buggy flying etc.)
    In a 3D World.

    SL is a completely different platform than is but with all it has, IMO SL still falls short, its just NOT THE SAME.

    Just NEEDED to get this out to a place where it will hopfuly fall on the ‘right eyes’.


  324. #576 by Ant1977 on 2011.04.30 - 6:30 pm

    When There notified everyone that they were closing I immediately started moving everything out of my mule avatars into my main account, during that last week I condensed all 7 of my accounts into 1 account. Reason being I had no steady job at the time and “if” there were to re-open I wouldn’t have been able to afford monthly on more than one account anyways. At this time I’m more than willing and able to pay monthly for 3 of my accounts plus if my better half is interested in joining too I will see to that she has her own account. She had no clue what There was when we met all she has seen has been a few youtube videos and mentioned that it looks like fun.

  325. #577 by Katelyn on 2011.04.30 - 5:02 pm

    im not trying to annoy you but, is still like, together just closed, or do you half to re create the whole world and rules, Or just rules, (payments age)

    • #578 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:36 pm

      They won’t have to re-create the world and its functions. The code still exists, backups of the servers still exist, etc.

  326. #579 by chaotico on 2011.04.30 - 4:59 pm

    * PLEASE READ! * legitimate suggestion here.

    i have an idea that might potentially address the dilemma surrounding trial memberships and, in one fell swoop, also allow existing members with multiple avatars to “use [them] long enough to get stuff out of them,” a problem that you mentioned earlier. i say, what about creating an option for PAY-BY-THE-DAY MEMBERSHIP? this would not only give newcomers a chance to try without a significant financial commitment, but it would also allow users with many accounts to transfer their assets over. it would also be great for those of us that used our second avatars occasionally and need the ability to activate them for short periods.

    keep a payment source on file to streamline the process. include several membership duration options. a longer membership commitment should coorelate with an increased discount; this would offer an incentive to purchase a more expensive package. for example, charge $1 for one day, $5 for a week, $15 for a month, $60 for six months, etc. offer bonus therebucks as an additional incentive for choosing a more expensive membership package. upon expiration of the package, the account could simply go dormant, able to be reactivated at any time.

    the only foreseeable problem with this might be sporadic users that, instead of buying a package membership, pay-by-the-day for three or four days a month and remain inactive the rest of the time. that may or may not present a significant financial loss. i’m not too good at these things, clearly, but i just thought i’d offer up my idea here.

    hope you had a chance to read my earlier comment. toodles!

  327. #580 by meena on 2011.04.30 - 3:25 pm

    sorry i felt like doing that!
    no seriously please open!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  328. #581 by Anonymous on 2011.04.30 - 1:57 pm

    I, myself, am an 13 year old..And my parents have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on But, I am not here to beg for you to make it atleast 13+ or welcome for minors to come. I also don’t know if you have any children, but I am curious..If you had a child, who used to play, and There “2” was coming out, would you allow him/her to play? I mean…You would be paying the monthly fee for him and you, which would create more funds for Through my own views, I think it is both a ridiculous and wonderful idea for just adults, or just 18+ and over to play. Well, all I have left to say is: you may not have been getting too much money from the 13-17 age group, but I have seen a few 7-12 years playing whether they were allowed or not, and I am not saying they REALLY were that old, I’m just saying, you could still make monthly fees from them. Think of all those MMORPGS. They have 13-50+ playing their game, PAYING the monthly fee of 15 bucks a month. BUT, with YOUR business model, you could be making MORE than MMORPGS, because you have the advantage of people buying Therebucks with real money. You MAY be getting some extra funds, but, from what I think, you have already been in a conference room discussing all of these facts, so It’s not my position to tell you anything, since I have never been staff of a 3D platform or any other. And, if you have been wondering, I’m just a mature person. ๐Ÿ˜›
    Thank you for your time,

    • #582 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:34 pm

      As it’s a matter of legal liability, their hands are tied. Maybe if “There 2” is able to get off the ground and exist sustainably, we can start to hope for an eventual return to the 13+ status.

  329. #583 by franko on 2011.04.30 - 12:22 pm

    So what is going to happen to long time members of that cant afford to play anymore? i know my self i am going to college and dont have a job right now and dont have to money to pay a monthly fee

    • #584 by Michael Wilson on 2011.04.30 - 12:27 pm

      Well, if we let them all in for Free, we’d have to close again. What do you suggest?

      • #585 by franko on 2011.05.01 - 11:38 am

        im not saying it like that but i love to play there and the money i have now is all in college and i want to be able to drive my buggies again and if there there is no way to help the people out that truly cant afford to play i dont see there is much love for the players for the game that have been with for many of years. i also think it will be complete bull crap if people with other avatars have to pay for each account just to move there stuff to one account.

      • #586 by OdileS AKA MmeOdile on 2011.05.02 - 5:30 am

        I will answer that MW!
        I feel that if a person wants to go to the movies, he or she will pay..If they want a pack of cigarettes (Which I don’t do)..they will pay…If a person wants to order pizza or go to the restuarant, they will pay…I would use less electricity in my home and save…I would eat at home and not go out in order to pay…I would maybe read the daily news on computer, instead of paying for a newspaper….In a nut shell, I do believe there is a such thing as saving…heck, we eat too much food anyway, so maybe not eat so much? Where there is a will, there is a way. But for those that say they have NO money to spend, I will not be sarcastic and say..Then why are you paying for a computer connection?
        Anyway, I am just trying to say…We people do tend to waste, so maybe we can learn to spend less and save for the things we really lilke to do in life?

      • #587 by Sand Storm on 2011.05.02 - 11:54 pm

        Totaly agree OdileS …. If there is will there is

      • #588 by nickolehp7540 on 2011.05.27 - 7:40 pm

        wat if we get alot of people to join and they pay a large mount of money can sum of s get in free like if we all have a nuff to pay there bill.

    • #589 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:32 pm

      I wouldn’t be able to afford a subscription either, for at least several months. But I understand and accept the necessity. There must live on, with or without you and I.

      • #590 by franko on 2011.05.03 - 12:12 pm

        but the thing about that is i mean 10 bucks a month is alot though i mean my friends have xbox and its 60 bucks a year i mean 120 a year is steep and yeah i understand if you go to a movie or do this and that but this is different.

      • #591 by Kal on 2011.05.05 - 12:28 pm

        Yes, this is different: you can get a lot more entertainment out of a virtual world or MMO game than you would from spending a couple hours in a theater watching a movie and munching junk food.
        Ten dollars is NOT “alot”.

  330. #592 by iplanet on 2011.04.30 - 12:20 pm

    Mr Wilson: My nick THERE was I-planet, and many people I know, I’m a systems engineer and my language is Spanish, so I apologize if my English errors. Like everyone, I found very good idea to reopen There and I would suggest some things that might be useful: it is clear that the free business model has not worked but it is also true that there are economic and social things that are important to consider.

    1-facilitate payment for those without access to credit cards

    I think if, There comes x amount of money, you may be able to keep their expenses but why forget to provide the means for users to pay? people living in USA and Europe will surely find it common to pay by credit card but I also think the rest, who do not have access to them especially in Latin America.
    why not send users an invoice to pay at banks? probably tell you that’s impossible, but here is very common to have international payment platform so (I say this because I charge my clients so) and you can allow more people can afford.

    (with my accounts, in this web site, I send invoices to my customers and they pay in their countries without problems.)

    2-support the people who generate content – THERE
    One of the things that generated most concern (at least to the people close to me) were the high costs for clothing, furniture etc and then upload to your server and then be sold. Why not lower these costs to encourage the creation of content and in turn more revenue for you? in my country is said to be won by the amount, many paying little often generate more income

    there are many more things that could talk, but the mainstay of any business is its customers, and if you pay, you will have customers, all customers should be well attended, so I think it is to care and will pay and costs are important things to consider. This is not to be a criticism but a suggestion to help and serve so that all stakeholders can see again There.
    hopefully soon we can go There were 4 years amazing to me when I was there.

    • #593 by mimi06 on 2011.05.29 - 2:52 pm

      waves to my good friend I-planet ๐Ÿ™‚ abrazo

    • #594 by SaltySilver on 2011.06.01 - 10:24 am

      iPlanet!!! hola ๐Ÿ˜€

  331. #595 by linuxkg100 on 2011.04.30 - 11:47 am

    wow, great to see There back, it was fun.. when i was there.. I was MrTechPearl on there, and my Wife of Mzpearl… it would be great if the new there was formed.. that the paid subscribers would also get a house and some land. as well,

  332. #596 by Starheart on 2011.04.30 - 10:34 am

    Here’s the deal–I already PAID a fortune for a There membership, paid for voice and a lot of extras to the
    tune of almost fifty dollars, plus a monthly fee ($10) for a couple of years. When you closed, I lost a small fortune in in inventory and T’s that I will never recoup. I had almost stopped playing anyway because everything got so prohibitively expensive, the emphasis stopped being on friendliness, helpfulness, and the “aloha” spirit and got meaner, nastier, WAY greedier, and full rude teenagers and advertisements for corporations like Coke and Nike. Since There closed, I’ve moved on to Second Life, which cost nothing to join and where I’m enjoying the endless flexibility of creating my own items and clothing, and have over 17,000 items in my inventory that cost not one red cent. The only money I have to spend in Second Life is a nominal amount for rent and any donations I care to make to groups, performers or program facilitators. While I was really sad that There finally closed (after repeated threats), but I’m really over it now. There was great while it lasted, I really love it, but I probably won’t be back.

    • #597 by Wendy Stoll on 2011.04.30 - 1:40 pm

      No one guaranteed forever. You didn’t “lose” anything. You spent a lot to play in a virtual world for several years.

    • #598 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:30 pm

      [notSarcastic] [notHostile] “There 2” is for the people who aren’t over it. It need not be anything else. [/notHostile] [/notSarcastic]

      • #599 by Alexandria3178 on 2011.05.02 - 2:27 pm

        I never got over There. I have tried other games since then, but nothing compared to THERE!!!

    • #600 by Marianne (JoyofLife) on 2011.05.01 - 5:41 pm

      Bye Bye

  333. #601 by Jenny_Logan Heike R on 2011.04.30 - 9:46 am

    Hi iam from germany.We german missed too . When There opening again alot of german peopel will come to there too.

  334. #602 by Nomad_66 on 2011.04.30 - 8:26 am

    Hello to all my friends form ‘There’.
    Many of my friends and I had invested alot in the world.Allowing ppl to play for free seems the nice thing to do. But in the long run, it hurts all of us who truly value the world. A small amount of ‘ PAYING’ players cannot support the whole world.
    A free account limited to two weeks,and one per IP adress, will allow new players to check out the world and learn a bit. But then they should pay a fee to keep that account, if they wish.
    I would hate to reinvest again just to have the world close in a year or two do to overuse by non paying membors!

  335. #603 by Tomixcomics on 2011.04.30 - 8:11 am

    Oh, and one last thing on the matter of reducing THERE’s population – people in opposite timezones from the US, such as myself, tend to experience much downtime during most of the day, because americans and such are asleep or at work. Reducing the population further, be it by age restriction, basic membership canceled, monthly payment or whatever, is going to make it so THERE is even less active and appealing during those times to the point where I might not even bother logging on at any time besides late in the evening.

  336. #604 by Tomixcomics on 2011.04.30 - 8:08 am

    Ugh, I cant belive the window crashed and now I have to type this again.

    I would like to add more thoughts on the issues bing discussed here:

    On the matter of reducing THERE’s population due to making the game avalible to more specific crowds: I definitely see how this appeals to many people, but to Event Hosts such as myself, lower population in THERE would mean lower event atendance – which is sometimes pretty low even if you’re a well connected and experienced event host. Lowering it further could ruin a hobby that many Therian event hosts share. Teenagers are often the ones that make the biggest crowds at events such as paintballing, racing, or games. This also applies to dwindled population over monthly payments.

    On the matter of age restriction: Many people seem to connect age to griefing. And while, yes, griefers are usually young, please remeber that only a small precent of them are in fact griefers, and i feel it would be unfar to the rest of them to block them from using the game due to a generality. In fact – many teenagers have helped me in the past to take control over griefers that attended my events. I really don’t feel that these people should be blocked from the game if the logic here is behavior-baed. I would also like to remind people that, yes, you can tell many people are young by ho they talk or act, but many times you can have a perfectly mature and well rounded conversation with someone and not even realize that they might(andin som cases are) 16 or the likes.
    I believe that a better solution would be to allow younger people in the game, but enforce stronger regulations, maybe have volunteer helpers who’s job is to help deal with griefers. Much like Island Guides.

    On the matter of monthly payment: I half support this and half not. For several reasons:
    1) I have been playing THERE for six years or so. about half that time I wasnt actually active in game. I often take long breaks, and I like knowing I can reenter my account at any time. This is usually not triggered by anything specific, so I wouldn’t even know when to disable or re-enable my account to try to save money,because my logins can be based on whatever I feel like. Many people have a sporadic login scheduele as well, and I believe that monthly payment will not only drain us of money for times that we’re not even using the game, but also will prevent players on hiatus from returningto use the game because it wont be as easy as logging back in, they would ifgure “eh, i kinda want to log in but i’m not going to re-enable my account now for that!” and forget about it. I would like to at least see some sort of long-term discount package. for example, if you buy a year’s subscription you get it for %35 off or something. That way I would feel more comfortable with it.
    2) I believe that if we’re paying money monthly we should also get a token amount of therebucks each month. not tons, just, say, 400T-900T or so. but it would be a nice way to balance out the lack of free money for us to spend on buying therebucks and the likes.

    On the matter of disabling basic accounts:
    1) This seems like a terrible terrible mistake to me. I don’t know many people who would be willing to buy a “cat in the bag” like this and commit to paying $9 a month for something they have never even tried. Whenever I want to turn someone onto there I have them create a trial account and seeing the gme for themselves. I can’t always invite people to my house to play the game through my avatar. I think the fact that basic members alreaddy can’t use voice, host events, sell stuff, buy stuff, earn real therebucks, etc. etc. already makes for a good balance. Please weigh the benefit – the amount of people using these to actually see what the game is like – versus the disadvantage – how very few of those people actually use these to grief, or alternatively, never buy full membership.
    Basic avatars are also a good medium for people who simply can’t afford to pay for the game (which will be an even iger issue if monthly payment is introduced) and people (like me) who need second avatars for very basic things (I use mine to help run my events).
    If the issue is multiple accounts – I believe this can be limited by things like one email per account allowed. If the issue is griefing – again, nothing that a more sophisticated block system or mod squad can’t take care of. If the isue is monetary, due to lack ofs ignups – I believe that leaving the basic accounts restricted as they are now is a far better solution than canceling them out completely and will draw many more people to be members.

    I hope the many things I’ve written will be heard and taken into consideration.

    • #605 by William on 2011.04.30 - 3:31 pm

      If I remember my reading of all these posts correctly, MW has maintained from the beginning the decision to be 18+ is about the high cost of protecting minors, nothing to do with them being perceived as griefers.

  337. #606 by William on 2011.04.30 - 4:45 am

    ps I received my email about the survey!

  338. #607 by William on 2011.04.30 - 4:43 am

    I’m happy you’re keeping your stance on 18+ and not readmitting banned users. Personally I don’t want any of your resources being spent on assessing individual cases of people who feel they were unjustly banned or deserve a second chance – I’m guess the second chanced opportunity passed them long before they were actually banned. I would like all your resources spent on reopening and keeping There going.

    The problem with trials is a difficult issue but it seems a lot of people feel very strongly that it would in some way benefit you if people could have a peek into the world before committing. Have you considered, and you very likely have, but you never know, a sort of locked down avie as a trial. What I mean is, a sample avie, named ‘Guest256’ or whatever number – that can enter the world for free but cannot hear, speak, type, read, msg, teleport or be summonsed, cannot use tags or trial items such as paint guns and such but they at least get to walk around a bit – maybe in a play zone like the one at Fisher Island so they can see a lot happening. Being locked out of participating on any level would likely nullify any desire to grief with these avies, while still providing a necessary look into the world. It could be an account that is deleted once the avatar logs out. I figure as long as they can see what they’re missing, and can do nothing at all until they join, it would be effective. Now I’ve no idea regarding what it would take to set up something like this – bit if it’s expensive, forget I mentioned it and plow onward toward reopening! I wish you every success! Heaven knows, after reading all the posts in this blog and the other, you’re earning it!

  339. #608 by chaotico on 2011.04.30 - 12:52 am

    p.s. also, please don’t update the graphics. to me, those were a large part of the appeal of the place. maybe higher-res would be okay, but the cartoon-inspired feel helped separate from the rest. if i wanted the place to look like real life, then i’d just live that instead ๐Ÿ˜€

    realism is overrated. that’s why second life looks crappy. it’s trying too hard to be real. there is no artistry. no soul.

  340. #609 by chaotico on 2011.04.30 - 12:48 am

    dear michael wilson:

    i am elated at the possibility of reopening. i just received the survey invite, and it made my day.

    i want to offer my full support for the proposed move to a pay-per-month model. i say this because, since the introduction of one-time fee membership and free basic membership a few years ago, i witnessed the degradation of there as it became increasingly overrun by irresponsible teenagers and more griefers than ever before (i’d been a member since 2004, right after beta). i had never supported that business move to begin with, but i suppose the financial state of at the time called for such a measure. maybe.

    anyway, problem is, i was a teenager myself during those years (i’m 21 now), and i take issue with the idea of barring minors from the proposed there2 entirely .my years were formative years for me, and i would hate to see other teens like me miss out on that experience.

    though i am obviously not privy to the financials behind allowing minors in-world and how it affected the stability of the company, my belief is that the root of the problem was not the inclusion of minors, but the move to one-time fee membership and free basic membership. before the inception of said membership programs, there were far less irresponsible and immature teens in world. i remember because i was there. i believe this is because, when membership was paid monthly or yearly, parents of minors were almost always involved in paying for membership and in supervising their child’s activity in-world. i know mine were. i paid for my first year’s membership with birthday money, and my parents were kind enough to help out occasionally afterward. they helped pay for the service, and so they took a keen interest in watching over me to make sure their investment in my experience in was a good one.

    however, once membership became free, a new batch of teens flooded in, many without parental consent. they and their families had practically no investment in (since they weren’t obligated to pay anything), and thus, felt little to no sense of ownership in the place. personally, i know i tend to take a lot more pride in a place when i have a sense of ownership in it.

    and i’m certainly not speaking for all teens that joined after the switch, and i don’t mean to over-generalize. i just noticed this downward trend developing during my time in, and i found it very off-putting. i think the world got too big for its own good, and it started to lose its close-knit feel, something that had attracted me so much to in the first place. it started to seem less about quality and more about quantity, and i felt less like a name and more like a number. like part of some business scheme that seemed to be going awry. it sounds bleak, and i donโ€™t mean to be insulting, but thatโ€™s honestly how i felt.

    in short, my philosophy about is that it’s better to have fewer members, but ones that are dedicated, mature, and paying for the service, than a slew of non or hardly-paying members that have no stake in the place at all.

    i maintain every hope that will make a comeback and am confident that you and your team will develop the paying-membership model into a profitable one.

    thank you for your continued dedication to a place that i will always hold dear to me.

    • #610 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:25 pm

      My teenage years in There were very important to me too. But, I accept this change to 18+ because:
      1. It is a necessary sacrifice at this point. It has nothing to do with perceptions of minors, or demands of the narrow-minded. It’s not motivated by condescension. It’s purely an issue of legal liability.
      2. One can always lie about their age; no system for keeping minors out is impossible to circumvent. If there is a system that’s nearly impossible to wriggle through, it’s probably too expensive and/or complicated for “There 2” to maintain.

    • #611 by Michele on 2011.05.01 - 9:21 am

      I think I’m that type-of-teenager that you’ve been speaking of in your post :).
      Even though I’m hardcore on my morals (such as ‘no trolling’ or ‘abusing’ the rules of there), I had such little investment in There! Only a few months after I quit there, that I have decided to actually pay for it once. But it was too late, the game had closed while I was away.

      I think the closure of There gave a little slap to my face, to the same face that everyone dislikes for so many reasons. I knew i was obligated to pay, but by playing the game for free and not even thinking about paying it 5 bucks, it already shows that i had little respect to the There Team that had to work so hard to keep the game running.

      I hope this also gave a slap to everyone else who believed/s that games are meant to be ‘free’. Nothing is free in this world. And even as a minor, I’ll still be playing this game (my father will be paying for the game) just so I could make the statement that even teenagers can behave with all of these raging hormones too! Hopefully the closuer of this game gave a little reality check to both its loyal players and the less-commited ones.

  341. #612 by Alessandro Cintoli on 2011.04.30 - 12:19 am

    From many comments and the writing style they are drafted in, I can comfortably say there is an awful lot of minors who wish to play There again and/or find ways to circumvent any access restrictions.

    I am 50, I have been on Second Life since 2007 and on from February 2010 to its closing day, and if I may drop my two cents, I believe Michael should take the lobbying attempts from minors into account and, besides confirming a 18+ policy for There 2, implement it in a similar way as SL still does today, even after allowing access to users 13 to 17 to the main grid.

    In SL, users 13 to 15 have their access restricted to PG areas created by an institution they belong to, such as a school. In practical terms, they cannot join SL without supervision. Also, they cannot purchase anything on the web marketplace (modeled after there store somewhat) or search anything inworld.

    Users 16 and 17 have the added freedom of accessing all PG areas in Second Life and talking to all users on SL in IM. However, they cannot access Mature or Adult Regions, even if they submitted the data required by the age verification system.

    All users circumventing restrictions can easily be spotted and banned. Younger users in SL have a way of talking and acting that easily calls for an abuse report. I know this for a fact, since most users in SL are over 30 and we can all tell a kid from an adult.

    Having said this to prove that it is not true that SL allowed access to minors to the main grid without thinking about it, it is apparent from the above that Michael should consider the number of minors who previously were on There and most of all find a way to have them banned from There 2 easily if they circumvent the restriction, then design ways to make them play in secluded areas.

    I have to admit that the most annoying thing when I was on There 1 was kissing someone and later find out I had kissed a 13 year old. Not to mention being called “a pervert old man” by the user I had kissed ๐Ÿ™‚

    Good luck!

    • #613 by ant123789 on 2011.05.04 - 10:54 am

      lol, agreed, i had an awful experience with this, i was actually physically sick when i found out a gf was 14, had another experience after but was very courses, after some investigation she turned out to be 60 hahahahahha i cant win, either to old or to young pmsl

  342. #614 by Ayden on 2011.04.29 - 11:51 pm

    Everyone is excited, I get it. But why are you all asking the same question over and over? “Will There2 be open by May? by June? SOMETIME SOON!?”
    Relax, Dr. Seuss. He’s doing the best he can to get things going, so perhaps everyone should just relax?
    I know I spent a lot of time on It was an amazing place to be, as we all seem to know. But expenses seem to be cancelling out profits for a lot of people (not just this). Give Michael Wilson some support and encourage him to do his best on things, yes? Give him time.

    You can’t make someone pee by saying “WILL YOU PLEEEEEASE PEE NOW!?” if they can’t pee yet.

  343. #615 by Tomixcomics on 2011.04.29 - 11:44 pm

    I always hear ocmplaints baout the graphics, but if you ask me, there was nothing rong wiht them to begin with…I alwyas thought THERE’s graphics looked way ebtter than of any competing game. I rather they save money, up the drop count in zones, and reduce lag, and keep the current graphics rather than increse graphics and make everythign more strained.

    • #616 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:16 pm

      Agreed. There’s graphics are cheerful and minimalistic, and the avatars are more lifelike than their wannabe-photorealistic counterparts in other games and virtual worlds.

  344. #617 by Fudge28 on 2011.04.29 - 4:52 pm

    Will There2′ be open before June? I know you cannot answer this for defiantly but it gives ur all an idea on how long this process will take to lead to the actual opening (if it does) of there.

  345. #618 by Max_Bravo on 2011.04.29 - 12:08 pm

    I really wonder if the pay to play model will work any more. It seems there are more and more games out there that are free to play these days. Would in world advertising and microtransactions instead of subscription work for you? It would be cool if There opened back up. It was a great place to be. If I had the money I would consider paying but….

    Also, I reeeeaally hope you update the graphics. They were good back in 2000, but now it won’t cut it. Of course I know it costs money, but that is part of the equation. What do you think about the “off-the-shelf” engines from companies like Steam and Unreal?

    Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.


    • #619 by Michael Wilson on 2011.04.29 - 4:21 pm

      The Steam and Unreeal engines require enormous amounts of resources, aren’t oriented to user-generated content, and don’t do distributed physics. They’re great engines, just not so great for There.

    • #620 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.04.30 - 5:34 am

      I think the Cryengine would work, BUT either way a new gfx engine would make there take to long to open up, lest a year for gfx and remodeling. personly there engine can still be updated enough without killing the feel there had in looks. I would not change that to much.

    • #621 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:13 pm

      1. It can be said that There used the microtransaction model before, to an extent orders of magnitude higher than any “free to play” MMORPG.
      2. There with different graphics would not be There.

    • #622 by Mikey on 2011.05.12 - 8:57 pm

      Unreal Engine would probably do the job indefinably.

  346. #624 by The_Teuchter on 2011.04.29 - 12:04 pm

    MW, I have had no email as of yet and neither have the 20 or 30 close friends i have in the UK or South Africa that used to play There. Any reason why we have not been included as of yet? Good luck with the results, we all so want there to reopen, we miss it so much.


    • #625 by MAtt The Teuchter on 2011.04.30 - 10:46 pm

      We all got them now, thanks. How is it looking btw, awaiting an update on the numbers!


  347. #626 by Tomixcomics on 2011.04.29 - 1:19 am

    Dear Michael Wilson, Makaena, and whoever might be reading this.

    Over the past year I have missed THERE so much more than I thought I would, and that’s really saying something, since I knew I would miss it terribly to begin with.

    Holiday vacations have not been the same. I hadn’t realized just how big a part of them THERE was until I found myself on summer break, staring at facebook, wondering when did the internet become so boring.

    While words of monthly payment, and being closed off for children under 18 do bother me, I am absolutely extatic at the thought that THERE might be coming back and will gladly accept these little inconveniencies in exchange. I’m afraid that this might cuase significantly lower game attendance, but I’ll leave the business models up to you. All that really matters at the end of the day is that THERE reopens.

    I would like ot point out though that it may be wiser to give three options in the survey about 18 year olds:

    1) No
    2) Yes, I prefer 18 years to b ethe minimum age requirement
    3) Yes, I am willing ot accept it, but rather the game be open for everyone.
    I think you might get very different results this way.

    I am a graphic designer and a 2D cartoonist. If there is anything I can do to help out please let me know.

    Please bring back THERE… It meant so much to so many of us and no other ivrtual world comes even close to it.

  348. #627 by Michele on 2011.04.28 - 6:34 pm

    First of all, I’ve just recieved the email just a few moments ago. I am thrilled to hear that you guys are will to TRY to reopen the game!
    I’m not 18, so I’m a bit disappointed. My parents trust me around these games but they do draw the line when it comes to paying. So I guess I’ll use my pocket money or something.
    “If a person owns a credit card- and is documented to be under the age of 18, would you still accept their pay+allow them to play?”
    I read something about you guys saying ‘We will not be responsible for those who are under 18″ So what I’m getting from this; If we get violated or at least see some sort of offensive content that shouldn’t be showed to people who are under 18, we won’t be able to sue you. right?
    If that is the case, then I will risk my eyeballs for this wonderful game!

  349. #628 by ThereDaily on 2011.04.28 - 12:30 pm

    MICHAEL WILSON i just started There Dailly on twitter follow me i wanted to keep up with there like the day when it comes out oor most of alll is there a free basic member ship! i had a ThereDaily website but took it down so im now on twitter @ThereDaily oh and ill follow you but can you tell me the new things and secrets about there cmon we need to keep up with your virtural game There =]

  350. #629 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.04.28 - 5:11 am

    I feel if it does open it will be early fall or winter of this year, if everything goes right.

  351. #630 by Lee on 2011.04.27 - 11:27 pm

    Do you reckon it will be open before June??

  352. #631 by Vanessa on 2011.04.27 - 9:46 pm

    How about renting zones out individually? Seperate from the main grid. For example something alone the lines of 2-3 hundred per month for a buggy zone. Cheaper for social/Card Areas. Then 10 dollars a month per person who wishes to access these zones that are paid by members? I’d be more then willing to do a 6 month contract for something along these lines. Granted I had control over who and what objects/textures were aloud. Thats bout 2-3 times more then the average server rental. Would be less risky then the whole open world concept and everything that was running would be making revenue. Anyways just throwing that out there if you Don’t have enough people for the reopening.

  353. #632 by michael on 2011.04.27 - 4:47 pm

    MICHAEL WILSON! i have an idea im 18+ and you should open there2 on may 3 because we are ALL waiting!cmon we will pay tust us cmon! i have old friends that wanna see me please!!!

    • #633 by Michael Wilson on 2011.04.27 - 6:15 pm

      There’s NO chance it will open on May 3. Sorry.

      • #634 by michael on 2011.04.28 - 11:24 am

        what day might you think it will open? oh and thanks for replying too. and you know how can i help to re open there and i mean anything to help. would you ever sell if i said i wanted to buy it from you would you let me have it and sponser you? because im willing to get open as fast as possible!

    • #635 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.04.28 - 5:08 am

      May 4th maybe? lol

      • #636 by taylorleigh on 2011.04.30 - 5:32 pm

        i m just glad is coming back. Nothing can replace this site..tried a few different ones and forget it,,Not the same. took long time to get over loss feelings u got when it closed. thanks MW..

    • #637 by There Lover on 2011.04.28 - 6:58 am

      Well by May 3rd.. the Survey wouldn’t be at 30 days yet… It will most likely go after 30days so that all the Emails are out.

      • #638 by Jane Meyers on 2011.05.23 - 10:14 am

        Survery results are already taken… The survey is closed.

    • #639 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:10 pm

      If you had enough money to purchase and support There, you wouldn’t ask what day it’ll reopen. At least, I’d like to think so, because if that’s an untrue statement I will have to resent capitalism even more.

      • #640 by Michael Wilson on 2011.04.30 - 9:16 pm

        Eh? Huh?

      • #641 by Kal on 2011.05.05 - 12:22 pm

        By that I meant that if “michael” were to make an earnest offer of financially supporting There and actually had the money to do so, I would hope he was intelligent enough to know better than to ask for an opening date or suggest one so immediate. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t deserve wealth.
        But this line of thought is quite moot, as it’s obvious he has no idea what he’s talking about, he’d probably offer the change from his pockets as payment for whatever constitutes There in his vague opinion, he has no capabilities relevant to reopening There, and there’s no chance you’d take him seriously.
        Sorry about the confusion.

      • #642 by Michael Wilson on 2011.05.05 - 12:24 pm

        I er, uh, have NO idea what you’re talking about.

      • #643 by Faunarose on 2011.05.18 - 9:00 pm

        Wow – scary – incoherent.

      • #644 by Drifa on 2011.05.20 - 4:03 pm

        WHAT!?!?!?/ Im Sorry and yes Michael im voer 18 -im 19 … Look lady we have no idea what you talking about.Can you please put it in some words that we understand please ๐Ÿ™‚

      • #645 by Drifa on 2011.05.20 - 4:04 pm

        over*-Keyboard ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

      • #646 by jimony on 2011.05.29 - 1:29 pm

        She was responding to a poster calling himself “Michael” that offered to buy There from MW or to cover the cost of re-opening it in order to get it opened faster. She was simply commenting that she doubted he actually had the funds to cover such an offer.
        MW must have had a busy day that day not to have understood her. He probably only had time to quickly glance at the comments.

  354. #647 by There Lover on 2011.04.27 - 4:18 pm

    When did you guys last back up everyone’s inventory? I have heard that you did it the day before? or was it when you kicked everyone off you backed them up?

    • #648 by Michael Wilson on 2011.04.27 - 4:29 pm

      Hasn’t this been answered at least once?

      Where would you have possibly heard this?

      Anyway, we backed it up, several times, AFTER we closed on the last day.

      And, no, we can’t restore your inventory to how it was just before you gave everything away.

      • #649 by There Lover on 2011.04.27 - 6:09 pm

        I don’t believed I had heard this on your blog.. maybe I’ve missed it, but I don’t believe so.
        I think it’s just one of those “silly” rumors going around.
        Awesome! So glad to hear that thanks MW.
        Also I’m not one of those people that did something they would regret in that week.

  355. #650 by teri on 2011.04.27 - 12:46 pm

    i’m really hoping there2 would open, and all of these ideas just sound like an improvement from the original game. my input is that if the developer items eventually moved to a peer to peer system, they should be anonymous. it would be unfair for designs to be rejected based on who made them, and i know this would end up happening.

    • #651 by Kendra on 2011.04.27 - 4:00 pm

      I Agree.

    • #652 by Kal on 2011.04.30 - 9:06 pm

      Design tendencies can be recognized, so the effectiveness of anonymity would be limited.

  356. #653 by badajoz37 on 2011.04.27 - 12:39 pm

    come on open the game i love there!!!!

    • #654 by Michael Wilson on 2011.04.27 - 2:39 pm

      Are you over 18?

      • #655 by Blackhood on 2011.05.09 - 4:36 am

        That’s funny. In game, I had a shirt that asked that same question. RU/18?

        Of course it was formatted slightly different.

      • #656 by Hink on 2011.05.22 - 9:23 am

        Hey, I had a question. If I was banned due to unauthorized charges from my credit card on file, would I be allowed back on? Seeing as though I didn’t do anything against There’s rules?

      • #657 by detectedx on 2011.09.07 - 10:23 pm

        I’d design a shirt written it, YE/18 ๐Ÿ˜€ , answering yours. lol.

  357. #658 by David on 2011.04.27 - 11:12 am

    If I chose to take back my old avatar, will I be able to change he’s name atleast?
    +One more question , if the graphics are better , how will the old items from there 1 look in there 2? developer items.

  358. #659 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.04.27 - 6:09 am

    Would it be possiable to make more Client side then server side? that way server maintaence is down a bit or maybe less server to maintain? Just a thought again….maybe i think to much lol

    • #660 by Jennyw9wkids on 2011.05.09 - 3:34 pm

      I like your idea Kenny on the different memberships we could purchase. This would give New pple that have never played before a chance to try it at a cheap price and get hooked. (Like I did). My RL GF told me about there. I tried it for 2 days and was hooked. I HAD to buy a membership. LOL But it would also help the pple that have Mulit Avies. Sportstar25 and I had a avie that held all the items for our hood. I guess I would have to pay a membership for the “Hood” Avie so we can get our things back so when There2 allows hoods and lots we can open another one. We have already been talking about it. We are SO EXCITED to hopefully have There re open. ๐Ÿ™‚

  359. #661 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.04.27 - 5:50 am

    Just a idea i had to generate money for on a monthly basis….
    Basic/Bronze account could be 4.99/5.99 a month. Would allow that person to meet others and explore the world or certain parts of it. Would be able to hear music and other talk. But would not be able to take part in streaming music or voice chat.
    Silver account could be from 9.99/10.99 a month Would allow that person to hold a spot of land the size of a 50/50 paz or half an acer. Own a small house to live in and have a 25 item drop limit, for furniture/deco. Also be able to voice chat with others.
    Gold account could be from 12.99/14.99 a month. Would allow that person to hold a spot of land the size of a 100/100 paz. Own a small or medium size house and have a 50/75 item drop limit Be able to voice chat and stream music.
    Diamond account could be 19.99 a month. Would allow for a 150/150 or 200/200 spot of land pick from a small medium or large house and choice of buggie or hoverboat, and have a 100/150 item drop limit. also able to voice chat and stream music.

    Some other ideas that sould work within or around the above would be to be able to pick from a selection of small medium or large houses. Maybe 3 to 5 for each diff size.
    Gold and or Diamond accounts could hold and post events for parties/clubs get togethers of some kind.
    A lottery system not a gambling thing, but for the ones we know out there tha could use a bit of help to better enjoy or just life ingeneral better. We could have a drawling of names of people we know and for a month people could donate some money for a new computor..or GFX card…or something they could use in RL. When said amount has been collected over a month or so, someone selected can pull a name out of a hat and the winner could be sent said prize from with love, lol

    Just a few things i thought of. The above prices and item drop limits can change, just think having those options and maybe other kinds of insetitives cold attact more people to jion.
    Maybe a bigger push on the advertisments on facebook or youtube.

    And i do think having it 18+ would be a good thing. in the long run. Again just some ideas atm. and wanted to post them here. thanks for reading, I hope Opens again, and you’ll have be down for 20 bucks a month!

  360. #662 by Kendra on 2011.04.26 - 11:50 pm

    Not sure if anyone else has asked this yet, but when it comes to skills, clubs, profiles, start dates, etc., will all of that be reset? Because you said that we will be “starting fresh” with new avatars, but with all of our old stuff. Does that mean our original start date will change on our profile? I always thought it was sort of a bragging right if your start date was in 2001-2003… And since many members won’t return right away, what will happen with the clubs? Many club founders/owners wouldn’t be in There, as well as the members. Would they just be gone forever? Same with skills.. do we keep the skills that we earned previously, or do we have to start over?

    • #663 by Kenny Ken25 on 2011.04.27 - 5:56 am

      I would assume we could lose our skill points we earned, but mainly we will still get our old avatars back with all clothing and items. but would take a day or two to get everything back. Things would have to load from their servers to you when logged in.
      or logged out, not to sure. and not 100% sure about the points….They said they backed everything up…I think the skills would be in with the back up. Me? I just like to have my old avatar back lol

      • #664 by Kendra on 2011.04.27 - 3:59 pm

        Yeah, I don’t really care about any of that stuff, I was just curious. All I want is my long lost avatar, toooo D:

  361. #665 by allie on 2011.04.26 - 3:26 pm

    Ok….I was just wondering if vMTV would be opening too. Didn’t they run under the same client or something?

  362. #666 by Ivy on 2011.04.26 - 1:22 pm

    I haven’t really found another Virtual World that I have enjoyed as much as I enjoyed my time in There.Thank you for considering reactivating the world, at whatever the circumstances may be to make it profitable. Even if it’s priced out of my price point, I appreciate the fact that you’re taking all things into consideration when making your decision.

    • #667 by Drifa on 2011.05.20 - 3:58 pm


  363. #668 by exman on 2011.04.26 - 1:20 pm

    is this true that there2 opening or just someone playing a trick on ppl? and if its true how do we make sure we get our old avi accounts back ? will we have to use our old email that we used when we made the account or just login and pay?